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Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming?
    #21935652 - 07/12/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dreaming is one of my main interests as of late (a combination of the movie waking life and the book "man and his symbols." highly recommend both :wink:)

Was thinking about eating a mushroom before bed tonight and wondering if anybody else had tried it that could share their experience. (any psychedelics, but preferably psilocybin since I'm not gonna 'waste' rare LSD on sleeping)

I know I've never had memorable dreams after a night of psychedelicy, but hallucinogens do seem to enable the conscious mind to access unconscious material. I think there could be a connection.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935666 - 07/12/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it's worth a try. I've personally have never done it, but it sounds like an awesome idea. I've been looking into micro dosing to help treat my bipolar personally.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Steelfox] * 2
    #21935684 - 07/13/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Micro dosing is great for treating neurosis IME. Its like it subtly nudges you towards healthier ways of thinking.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #21935689 - 07/13/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've tried but it just tends to make me stay up for some reason


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21935697 - 07/13/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've tried but it just tends to make me stay up for some reason



damn, that's what I was afraid of.

Maybe a sub-perceptual dose is in order.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935713 - 07/13/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe micro dose and then smoke some cannabis to take the stimulating edge off :shrug: I know dreams after mushrooms can be amazingly intense


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #21935760 - 07/13/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe micro dose and then smoke some cannabis to take the stimulating edge off :shrug: I know dreams after mushrooms can be amazingly intense



twould be a good idea if cannabis didn't inhibit dreaming. at least for me it does. Trying to quit smoking altogether just so I can get dreams back full force.

glad to hear that mushroom dreams are a thing though.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935798 - 07/13/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took about 0.7g and went to bed halfway through the trip once. Had great dreams but it was years ago and i have difficulty remembering them. I did smoke some cannabis, about 0.5g.

It does seem much harder to sleep on anything over a gram IME


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21935874 - 07/13/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I cant imagine trying to sleep after taking shrooms. Shrooms wire me like no other.

might try it thou, just to see.

If u want really vivid dreams, try mexican dream herb.

also, ive had vivid dreams after LSA trips (morning glory). Its tough to sleep, but much easier to  than on Acid.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21936356 - 07/13/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have done it. It's hard still, because if you want to dream and trip, you better make damn sure you fall asleep before the micro dose even begins to start.

I've taken 3 grams and fell asleep once, it was nice but I woke up later and tripped my nuts off for 3 hours before I could go back to sleep.

I've also done .5 grams a few times, and you do see weird shroom/dmt like patterns in your dream... At some point you may reach a point where you'll see a form of patterns in front of you in your dream, and time will freeze, and you'll just be watching that pattern forever. It's nuts.

But again, if you wake up - you're up for a while unless you're under a sleep aid. I think the mushrooms just make people think too much. And an active mind keeps you awake. Maybe if you could silence your mind, you could return to sleep.

To enhance dreams without shrooms... Look into vaping/smoking dream herbs, certain types of cheese, or other diets with the ability to help dreams. Often times, if I smoke weed early in the day, like say noon, and if it COMPLETELY wears off by 6-9 (bed time), then I'll have crazy dreams. But don't sleep high (with weed) or you probably won't have any dreams.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: topherchris]
    #21936393 - 07/13/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've been doing small doses of cubes (say 1.5g max dry)
around 2-4 hours before bedtime
and enjoying a bit of closed eye visions and then decent sleep.

I wake up early feeling good, better rested than usual, the day after.
Then there usually follows a couple of nights of deeper sleep than usual
where I dream less or I don't remember it as much.

Psilocybin seems to stabilise and improve my sleep rather than enhance dreams.
I don't know - the effect varies as the days go by I think maybe enhanced dreams
do come about a week after a trip but it's hard to see a constant pattern there.

I quit weed many months ago and went through some surprising adjustments.
I love dreaming - rather like trips - even bad ones tend to make me feel better after.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Nun]
    #21936466 - 07/13/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a daily potsmoker, so I remember my dreams maybe once in a month.

But Amanitas tend to make me dream very realistic and lucid, sometimes a few days in a row. I'm not talking about dosing right before sleep, it's just most of the time I do Amanitas, the following nights are full of profound dreamimg.
There is quite some information about the dream enhancing qualities of fly agaric mushrooms in the internet to be found.

I never had this enhancment with Psilos and I've never heard of it before.. but I never went asleep on a microdose of mushrooms either.

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21936544 - 07/13/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

try smoking mugwort or putting it under your pillow.  you'll have some crazy dreams.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21936588 - 07/13/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21936609 - 07/13/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've wanted to try this with ACRB/PHS yage, take a few small sips before sleep.

I take peganum harmala seeds before sleep from time to time, not in a 3g dose, maybe half that, and it does appear to enhance my dreaming experience, keep in mind these doses shouldn't do all that much to you otherwise, I mean I can tell there's harmine in my system, but those not as sensitive May not even notice it.

Aren't their nootropics that claim to enhance dreaming?

Has anybody had experience with compounds specifically for dreaming like Calea zacatechichi?

-E. Borodin




I've heard good things about nootropics and dreaming but haven't personally tested. I cannot sleep with psychedelics either... Maybe weed would help, but I'm curious to test it out.

What would be considered a micro dose? Less than 1g?


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21936683 - 07/13/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a daily potsmoker, so I remember my dreams maybe once in a month.

But Amanitas tend to make me dream very realistic and lucid, sometimes a few days in a row. I'm not talking about dosing right before sleep, it's just most of the time I do Amanitas, the following nights are full of profound dreamimg.
There is quite some information about the dream enhancing qualities of fly agaric mushrooms in the internet to be found.

I never had this enhancment with Psilos and I've never heard of it before.. but I never went asleep on a microdose of mushrooms either.

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intreresting, I'll have to look into the amanita for this. Got a bag full in the freezer that I never tried.

I've got some calea Z, haven't experimented with it too much yet, Haven't been super impressed with it but I've never smoked all that much of it at once.

Mugwort I'll have to try :thumbup:

peganum harmala is an interesting suggestion..I just got done extracting harmalas so maybe I'll give that a go as well

thanks for all the replies guys. more than I would have expected.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21936748 - 07/13/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I once took 7 gs and tried to meditate while laying down. Next thing I knew I woke up while peaking and it was scary as hell because I forgot I took that dose lol. I didn't dream durning that short nap...


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: SuperFly]
    #21936793 - 07/13/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I once took 7 gs and tried to meditate while laying down. Next thing I knew I woke up while peaking and it was scary as hell because I forgot I took that dose lol. I didn't dream durning that short nap...



this is a story I've heard a surprising number of times. People take a sizeable dose and then somehow manage to fall asleep. Even stranger they don't dream.

Btw everyone: I ate a very small dose before bed last night. I dreamt that I was thrust into a large group of people I didn't know who wanted to do a bunch of things that I didn't want to do, yet it seemed like I had to do them. (I think the strangers may have represented parts of my unconcious that I'm not well acquainted with. They were showing that if I let them guide me, I will have to push my limits by doing things I don't want to do.)

interpreting dreams is so interesting. Got to help my brother interpret one that was quite confusing to him.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21937234 - 07/13/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

On weeknights my wife goes to bed at 11:00 so she can get up with the kids. Quite often I'll stay up later in my mancave working, playing guitar, internetting. Once in a while I'll throw back a gelcap containing .35 gram. Or maybe two of them. I get a trippy buzz and then around 1am when I start to get tired I go to bed with music in my ear buds. It's blissful, I love it. Microdose doesn't last that long, so I don't have trouble drifting off. Best not to do this on a day when I've slept late because it probably will cause trouble getting to sleep.


Do you want to dream like crazy? Ask anyone who has tried to quit smoking by using the nicotine patch. I've heard it so many times - you wake up exhausted from a night of intense dreaming.


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Re: Has anybody tried micro dosing before bed to enhance dreaming? [Re: Universe]
    #21937240 - 07/13/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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On weeknights my wife goes to bed at 11:00 so she can get up with the kids. Quite often I'll stay up later in my mancave working, playing guitar, internetting. Once in a while I'll throw back a gelcap containing .35 gram. Or maybe two of them. I get a trippy buzz and then around 1am when I start to get tired I go to bed with music in my ear buds. It's blissful, I love it. Microdose doesn't last that long, so I don't have trouble drifting off. Best not to do this on a day when I've slept late because it probably will cause trouble getting to sleep.


Do you want to dream like crazy? Ask anyone who has tried to quit smoking by using the nicotine patch. I've heard it so many times - you wake up exhausted from a night of intense dreaming.



ooh, now there's one I've never heard before. thanks

Perhaps that super potent form of tobacco has a use. nicotina rustica I want to say.


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