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Cacti ID please?
    #21935311 - 07/12/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hello! A friend just moved into a new house that had two big clumps of these two cacti growing, and gave me these cuttings, was hoping someone could help to ID them?



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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21935333 - 07/12/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ps THE LITTLE ONE IS SPIKEY AS HELL... and vicious!! #ow


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21935355 - 07/12/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The ones in the second pic look like san pedro and the ones with long spikes look like they could be Peruvian torch. The small ones I'm not sure.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #21935367 - 07/12/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks; he said he got them from the same plant (the big ones) is that possible? Or maybe two are growing super close together? One of the pieces has tiny spines on one side and big arse ones on the other, confusingly!!


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21935380 - 07/12/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The short spined ones are definitely San Pedro Idk bout the other.  Been dealing with a lot of San pedro lately lol and that's it. Spines pointing upwards 4-5 spines on average.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21935413 - 07/12/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well this is what wiki has to say: Echinopsis pachanoi (san Pedro) is a related species with short spines, which is nearly identical in appearance to its relative (Peruvian torch). It is therefore possible that many misidentified plants are being sold (both as Peruvian Torch and as San Pedro cactus), but since local variations as well as hybrids do exist (both cultivated and natural), this will obviously make proper identification difficult.

The short spine ones look like san Pedro to me for sure. The other long spine one could be Peruvian torch or some hybrid its really hard to say.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21935417 - 07/12/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The first pic looks like some kind of Peruvianus hybrid probably.

Second pic it with out a doubt pachanoi (San Pedro)

Third pic is a mixture of the first and second pic.

Forth pic I can't ID but from my unprofessional opinion it is some type of trichocereus.

The one you are referring too with spikes growing big on one side and small on the other can just be from the environment. I've read people saying intense sun make really crazy looking spines. They are all very nice looking cacti though! I wouldn't mind have any one of those in my collection, AUS always has very cool looking genetics :smile:


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: SuperFly]
    #21935538 - 07/12/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The small cutting with 4-5 spines per areole looks like a bridgesii of some kind.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #21935700 - 07/13/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I see surly 3 different trich species and possibly one being a bridge but I can't say for sure because I often have troubles distinguishing some peruvianus strains from bridgesii. I see pach, peruvianus and the third possibly Trichocereus spachianus.


I'm not 100% on that but that's what it seems to be to me.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: spaceman101]
    #21935973 - 07/13/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Taking cuttings in the middle of winter is not the best course of action, is it?
If your friend can send you a pic of the plants he took the cuttings from it would help a lot on identifying them.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: LSoares]
    #21936114 - 07/13/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

maybe 4th pic are Trich spachianus?


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21936486 - 07/13/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking the 4th was grandiflorus..


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #21936503 - 07/13/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Trichocereus bridgesii?

-E. Borodin


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21936515 - 07/13/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looking through the responses I saw someone also suggested this, I thought Trichocereus bridgesii or trichocereus peruvianus as well...I'm on a mobile device so it's hard to tell from the pics...

-E. Borodin


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21936517 - 07/13/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This guy said these all came from the same plant?

-E. Borodin


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21936709 - 07/13/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

after looking at my grandiflorus, I retract my statement


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21938541 - 07/13/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no way those all came from one plant.

Looks like a peruvianoid and or bridgesii hybrid in the first pic with some pachanoi on the left.

As others have said the second pic is definitely some pach.

The third looks like a pach, then bridgesii, then peruvianoid from left to
right.

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Lemnaminor said:
maybe 4th pic are Trich spachianus?




I was thinking the same thing but am not too familiar with that variety.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: musiclover420]
    #21940596 - 07/14/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks everyone; I asked him again & he is 100% adamant that the big ones came from the same plant, he said it looks like they loose the spikes as they get bigger? As for cuttings in winter, I am willing to try - not going to refuse them haha! Will try to get a picture of the plant.


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21940600 - 07/14/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Here is the plant. :smile:


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Re: Cacti ID please? [Re: plantstrongirl]
    #21941632 - 07/14/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's a bridgesii for sure. I'd clean that plant up and propagate all the tips , possibly in a new location because it doesn't look very happy where its at. Maybe it gets too much sun ,,or not enough sun. Nice cactus for sure


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