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LiquidVisions
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Ayahuasca at home?
#21935178 - 07/12/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone I am pretty experienced with psychedelics. Not gonna name all the ones i've done but I am more than familiar with the psychedelic experience. Lately DMT has been something that I know I am ready for, but I cant find it any where. I enjoy salvia very much and I hear nothing but good things about DMT. Due to my living situation I can't extract it but I am thinking about making ayahuasca and tripping during the night. My room is next to the people I want to avoid and I am wondering will ayahuasca have me flipping out speaking loudly to myself in the middle of the night? Can I just lay down and explore my mind in silence? I understand that it is a HEAVY psych but for some reason people go online while they're on it. Is it easy to handle like mushrooms? I've done heavy doses of shrooms and was still able to keep myself together. Will ayahuasca be like that? Is ayahuasca a level 5 with eyes open or is it eyes closed? I have so many questions about this magical brew. I feel like this experience would be good for me as sometimes I slip into unhealthy habits and get depressed.
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mushrooms are easy to handle for you?
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LiquidVisions
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Yea man I've eaten up to 4 grams and handled talking to people when I needed to. Mushrooms pretty much allow me to be myself.
EDIT: It usually takes concentration because I think faster then I speak on mushrooms and if im not careful I start speaking in weirdly put together sentences or just trip over words and realize a minuet later.
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Edited by LiquidVisions (07/12/15 09:34 PM)
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lfds2pid
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rbalzer said:

mushrooms are easy to handle for you?
Haha
OP, Everybody is different, so nobody can tell you for sure what will happen if you drink it. It will probably taste worse than mushrooms and it is possible that it will be more emotionally intense due to the MAOI component increasing catecholaminergic activity in the brain, generally. I know somebody who drank ayahuasca on multiple occasions, several years part, and had totally different experiences each time WRT the sensory and mental phenomena.
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: lfds2pid]
#21935323 - 07/12/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You might need to run back and forth to the bathroom to vomit/poop
Im assuming your parents are in the next room because an adult with roommates wouldnt usually have that problem.
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: mushpunx]
#21935366 - 07/12/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I am an adult but yea I live at home with my parents.
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: lfds2pid]
#21935630 - 07/12/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see. Im just hoping that people will share their experience with me in order for me to make up my final decision. Perhaps I can do it when I have the house to myself but is there any way I can make ayahuasca shorter?
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LiquidVisions said: Well I am an adult but yea I live at home with my parents.
Yea, if your parents arent cool with it why not just stay at a cheap motel
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: mushpunx]
#21936113 - 07/13/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd say be careful.
I recommend smoked DMT to curious New commers just because ayahuasca is more likely to fail, specially if the person preparing it is unskilled, if it doesn't fail it can be overly intense, and lasts 6 hours, where as a smoked DMT freak-out is 20 minutes.
...Plus if your not careful using monoamine oxidase inhibitors you can really hurt yourself...specially if your on SSRI meds ...
I'd recommend buying some ACRB some naptha and NaOH then find someone who knows what to do with it, I'm sure if you supply the materials someone should help you out.
If you are determined to do ayahuasca, DO RESEARCH, and for the love of God explain to your parents what your doing so they know how to respond if you freak out (people on yage say things like "I need help" or "i think I'm dying/dead" which may lead some to call an ambulance If they don't understand why you are saying these things, make sure your sitters know all they can about yage as well)
DO NOT underestimate ACRB/PHS or MHRB/PHS brews! Just because the plants are available online doesn't mean that they won't induce intense psychedelia.
Do as much research as you can, if you can find someone experienced to help you out it would greatly improve your situation, this stuff is not a joke.
Be educated, be responsible and above all be SAFE!
Good luck,
-E. Borodin
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https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=85507
Here's an experience report from erowid.
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Acacia.shtml
This is the acacia confusa experience vault, if you drink yage it's likely going to be an acacia confusa and peganum harmala analogue, so the link above are the experiences for this method.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I'd say be careful.
I recommend smoked DMT to curious New commers just because ayahuasca is more likely to fail, specially if the person preparing it is unskilled, if it doesn't fail it can be overly intense, and lasts 6 hours, where as a smoked DMT freak-out is 20 minutes.
I'm pretty sure his parents wouldn't appreciate the smell of smoked DMT lol. As for Ayahuasca likely to fail, ehhh, not if you make it right. My first experience with Ayahuasca, which was my first experience with any Psychedelic/Entheogen, was done by simply grinding up some Rue seed in a coffee grinder filling up 6 capsules with the ground seed, and filling up 12 capsules worth of Mimosa inner root powder (which was too high of a dose, i only really needed 3 capsules of it, 4 tops). And it was amazing, the purge was rough as hell, but all in all i really enjoyed it. Yeah it's intense, but i personally think you get the best of DMT from oral use with Harmalas, compared to smoking it. Even Changa, while being the same ingredients as Ayahuasca, it's just not as full to me as oral Ayahuasca is. Ayahuasca is the bomb diggity though, it can be scary/rough at times, but as long as one has a strong mind and can handle whats thrown their way, they should have barely any problem i would think, especially if music were an option in the case of a bad or difficult experience, cuz it really helps.
OP, try doing it outside, at night, preferably while others are asleep. If you have a backyard, try doing it out there. I used to take Ayahuasca and go in my front yard and just sit in a chair with music.
But yeah, it can be intense, the purging can be a bit noisy.
Edited by Sabnock (07/13/15 06:00 PM)
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Best wait till you can have the house to yourself. Ayahuasca Caapi vine/ psychotria leaf is an intense long lasting trip, I was talking to beings and was aware this was verbal as well as in my mind. The purge was noisy and my head was fast approaching psychedelic city, walking was like being quite drunk. I think others in the house may notice this and the paranoia that they will would put a dampener on it.
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Yeah I wouldn't do it if you have any inclination that the people around you wont be acceptable to what you are doing. Just wait or go somewhere where you can be by yourself SAFELY.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I tend to speak to myself loudly on strong mushroom trips and since DMT is similar but stronger I don't wanna do that in the middle of the night with the possibility of my parents waking up saying "WTF!?". I can get freebased DMT but I don't want it mailed to me. I was thinking about taking the risk and using it out of my ecig. I was gonna buy a wax globe piece for it and see how that goes. How bad does smoked DMT smell? I've heard burnt plastic and new shoes so If thats the case I can deal with it.
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The smell doesnt hang around long. I find the taste/smell pleasent but you might not.
But its a better choice for this situation because its much easier to find 20 min to yourself
Get a motel for the ayauasca
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Edited by mushpunx (07/13/15 10:18 PM)
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: mushpunx]
#21940192 - 07/14/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: Get a motel for the ayauasca
Or perhaps some woods or something.
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Re: Ayahuasca at home? [Re: Sabnock]
#21941001 - 07/14/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I'd say be careful.
I recommend smoked DMT to curious New commers just because ayahuasca is more likely to fail, specially if the person preparing it is unskilled, if it doesn't fail it can be overly intense, and lasts 6 hours, where as a smoked DMT freak-out is 20 minutes.
I'm pretty sure his parents wouldn't appreciate the smell of smoked DMT lol. As for Ayahuasca likely to fail, ehhh, not if you make it right. My first experience with Ayahuasca, which was my first experience with any Psychedelic/Entheogen, was done by simply grinding up some Rue seed in a coffee grinder filling up 6 capsules with the ground seed, and filling up 12 capsules worth of Mimosa inner root powder (which was too high of a dose, i only really needed 3 capsules of it, 4 tops). And it was amazing, the purge was rough as hell, but all in all i really enjoyed it. Yeah it's intense, but i personally think you get the best of DMT from oral use with Harmalas, compared to smoking it. Even Changa, while being the same ingredients as Ayahuasca, it's just not as full to me as oral Ayahuasca is. Ayahuasca is the bomb diggity though, it can be scary/rough at times, but as long as one has a strong mind and can handle whats thrown their way, they should have barely any problem i would think, especially if music were an option in the case of a bad or difficult experience, cuz it really helps.
OP, try doing it outside, at night, preferably while others are asleep. If you have a backyard, try doing it out there. I used to take Ayahuasca and go in my front yard and just sit in a chair with music.
But yeah, it can be intense, the purging can be a bit noisy.
THANK YOU for posting this!!! I had a thread on the nexus called "capping ACRB/PHS" asking if I could just powder the plants and eat them in caps, I did nit get any valuable responses...
As for this guy's parents, if your drinking ayahuasca in their house it may be wise to let them know what your up to, explain the plants and their potential effects as well as their safety profile, unless you have an educated sitter around I recommend you let your parents know.
Just be safe and responsible, take all necessary precautions, it's your first time, after you have done it a few times you may become more relaxed, but for your first time I recommend you have knowledgeable sitters, and take every precaution.
I still recommend smoked DMT to the curious newcomer. This way preperation and MAOI precautions are not an issue, and if a freak out occurs it will be short, 20 minutes, where as with yage it can be hours.
Again, this is just what I would do, everybody is different as is their situation, regardless, education, safety and responsibility are the key here. Do all the research you can, have your sitters do all the research they can.
Be safe and good-luck on your journeys,
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LiquidVisions said: Thanks for the replies everyone. I tend to speak to myself loudly on strong mushroom trips and since DMT is similar but stronger I don't wanna do that in the middle of the night with the possibility of my parents waking up saying "WTF!?". I can get freebased DMT but I don't want it mailed to me. I was thinking about taking the risk and using it out of my ecig. I was gonna buy a wax globe piece for it and see how that goes. How bad does smoked DMT smell? I've heard burnt plastic and new shoes so If thats the case I can deal with it.
I talk to myself a lot on mushrooms too.
I talk to myself way more on ayahuasca. I also puke and shit a lot and tend to spend most of the night on the toilet.
So yeah, good choice not doing it around your parents. Unless they're super chill hippie parents that don't mind their kid talking to plants
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