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Alan Watts - The Meaning of Life/Purpose
    #2193464 - 12/20/03 09:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"Now what bugs Western people about this is they would say 'Are you trying to tell us that life has no meaning, no purpose?' Yes. What's so bad about that? What sort of meaning would you like it to have? Propose me a meaning for life. Anything you want. Well, when people try to think of what the meaning of life is, they say 'Well, I think that we're all part of a plan, and that working as if we were characters in a novel or a play, and we are all working towards a great fulfillment. One day, perhaps after we're dead, perhaps in the future life, there'll be a great gazoozie. There'll be a galuptious, glorious goodie at the end of the line, see? And that's what we're all for, see? To get in with that. And it will all be very, very important, because it won't be something trivial. It will be something extremely holy.' Well I say 'What's your idea of something very holy?' Well, nobody really knows. You know, they think about church, and medieval artists who used to represent heaven in the form of everybody sitting in choir stalls. And I must say hell looked much more fun. It was a kind of sado-masochistic orgy. But heaven looked insufferably dull. And when those little children sang hymns about those eternal sabbaths, it was a a very, depressing future, I can assure you.

But you see, when you follow through these ideas, what do you want? What is the goodie? What is progress all about? You realize that you just don't know. So the question is immediately posed for the meditator, but aren't you there already? I mean, isn't THIS what it's about? "

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Re: Alan Watts - The Meaning of Life/Purpose [Re: lucid]
    #2193698 - 12/21/03 12:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

nice quote! No one can tell you the purpose of life, or even if there is one. You will see the truth if you really want to.

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Re: Alan Watts - The Meaning of Life/Purpose [Re: lucid]
    #2193809 - 12/21/03 08:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Damn it, I just posted something on this very thing in another post... A thought on Religion. I'll just say here that we are free to make our own meaning, and we are doing it every second anyways, usually unaware...

If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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Re: Alan Watts - The Meaning of Life/Purpose [Re: chodamunky]
    #2195743 - 12/22/03 03:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Purpose and meaning are human concepts, not actual things.  I think the ability to give meaning and purpose is an evolutionary trait that evolved around the same time, or after we became self-aware.  Its a defense mechanism giving us a reason to stick around on earth...but then again, reason is another concept we have created... :crazy:

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Re: Alan Watts - The Meaning of Life/Purpose [Re: lucid]
    #2195932 - 12/22/03 05:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)


heaven looked insufferably dull.

I think this thinking is why people turn to Satanism. All they know of spirituality is what they've been told at church. That isn't good enough for most people these days, so they turn to the only other option that they're aware of, which is Satanism.



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