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4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions!
    #21934497 - 07/12/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was wondering if anyone has any  advice or knowledge that would help. My first time tripping was on metocin, which I'd been told is the same as 4 ho met. I LOVED it and did it about three times. Each time got it from the same person. Now a few years later I bought something that was labeled 4 ho met fumarate, but the effects have been different both times I took it. The stuff I took before caused a lot of visual morphing of images-- people's heads looked huge and distorted, music sounded AMAZING, I saw amazing patterns and fractals when closing my eyes, it caused amazing mood elevation, it was very kind and forgiving with no anxiety to speak of. Whereas this stuff I have now is weirder feeling. Makes me feel edgy on and off, no morphing of objects to speak of, colors enhanced, a lot more mindfuck. Music sounds weirder, not better, and I find myself laughing hysterically for no apparent reason. It just seems completely different. So I'm wondering if what I had before sounds more true to what 4 ho met is supposed to be, or what I have now. Because I'm having a very hard time believing that what I took back then and what I have now is the same thing. Anyone have any thoughts/knowledge/advice that could help me figure this out? It would be greatly appreciated!


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InvisibleJean-guy Masta
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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: night rising]
    #21934713 - 07/12/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

never done 4-ho-met but i did 4-aco-met a couple times. IME 4-aco-met is really like your describing in the first part. but i have noticed a weird response curve when you get in the 35mg and more , alot more mindfuckery and edgy feeling and even nausea. there seems to be a sweet spot

how much you did?
also maybe what you did first was 4-aco-met ?


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: night rising]
    #21934778 - 07/12/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you are not getting the same chemical as you were before. Simple as that. either produce your own drugs or get them tested. you got a sorry excuse for a psychedelic. Sorry. I have no sympathy for the devil. Be smart.


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Offlinenight rising
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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21941780 - 07/14/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

See that's what I was wondering, if the first might be 4 aco met. I was new to psychs at the time. The person who introduced me wasn't, and told me it was 4 ho met. Whereas the one I have now comes from a good source which has no reason to mislabel the specimen. When I did the first stuff, it was three years ago. That may also account for the change. Different mindset and situation, etc.


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21941800 - 07/14/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
you are not getting the same chemical as you were before. Simple as that. either produce your own drugs or get them tested. you got a sorry excuse for a psychedelic. Sorry. I have no sympathy for the devil. Be smart.




It's pretty harsh to say I'm not "being smart" simply because I asked a question. I am careful with what I use, how much, and where I get it from. And the second  specimen may have seemed different, but it still had psychedelic effects: CEVs, enhanced color, thought patterns like other psychedelics, etc. So to say it's a sorry excuse for a psychedelic is pretty ridiculous. Jesus Christ arrogant much?


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: night rising]
    #21941881 - 07/14/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea the dude is a hater , saw him hatin around here recently , really unshroomy attitude . he even ignored me for no reasons:shrug:  probably doesn't know what set and setting is and that drug can have different effects from time to time

For your stuff I doubt your vendor mislabeled it. Especially if it's a domestic and reputable vendor. It happens but it's really rare .

You probably had the 4-aco version back then . It's actually my favorite 4 sub tryptamine when I just wanna trip with friends and have a good time:yesnod:

Maybe try it again in a new setting or order some 4-aco :smirk:


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21941949 - 07/14/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I loved metocin

feels like psilocybin but not as organic

made the curtains twinkle and shift angles on me..


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: night rising]
    #21942042 - 07/14/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I stand by all statements. Produce your own drugs or get them tested. Don't complain when your "guy" doesn't get what he thought he was getting.....


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21942153 - 07/14/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would highly recommend you do a reagent test on research chemicals, or any drug for that matter, before you take it. Better safe than sorry.  :hug:


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Re: 4 ho met seems so different than when I had it before... questions! [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21942226 - 07/14/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i doubt there is a reagent test for 4-aco-met. probably needs to be lab tested.

i know i heard the horror stories too. fuckup opiates rcs like Fentanyl analogs being mislabeled as MXE killing a bunch of people ,its truly sad.

but in the end you dont buy from chinesse vendor that sells opiates RCs.

i agree you should test your shit tho or atleast make a shit load of research on the vendor and the particular product before buying it.


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