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CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people?
    #21933381 - 07/12/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys! I rarely post on here but totally enjoy the wisdom and good reads on this online community...

Anywho my friend said she gets pure CBD buds, which I figured only came in oils, wax, or pot with thc also in it. So she came over I made a lil guap ;D but then her friend asked for a better deal if he gave me some CBD. Sounds cool ill give it a shot. Well the skinny jean homo pulls out a bag of grounded up ganga. Looked like mashed up Mexican brick. So I took a small sample...They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud. {Im on probation and take drug tests once a week) So I rolled a fatty and proceeded to toke, I felt a slight change in mood but then again I popped a 2mg Kpin a few hours before burning down. The stuff doesn't smell like pot, it is green and grounded up and really has not much of a taste. My friend, she swears it works for her anxiety but what I wanna know is this a scam and is it even possible to extract thc from pot but leave a sufficient amount of CBD in it? Thanks guys, I trust your opinions and thoughts more then google=)
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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933391 - 07/12/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's probably possible with genetic engineering, but I'd bet the farm he's making it up.  Low THC maybe, no THC doubtful.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933394 - 07/12/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i've had some cbd bud.  some with a 1:1 ratio of cbd and thc and one with 4:1 i think.  they were good, but didn't give that classic stone.  more medicinal and works wonders for pain and anxiety.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933397 - 07/12/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i don't think any strain is completely devoid of THC, so he is likely full of shit on that note. There do exist certain straines of cannabis that are very high CBD with very little THC, look at Charlotte's Web.

if he's extracting the THC to make into Hash oil he's very likely pulling out the other cannabinoids as well.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: fapjack]
    #21933404 - 07/12/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If the plant material has already been extracted from then there isn't anything worth smoking left. When I extract my stuff the leftovers get thrown away.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21933407 - 07/12/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i've also made cbd oil with a friend who was very into vaping and had vaped out the thc from the bud and the leftover had plenty of cbd in it.  we made a bit and i drank it and got stoned as fuck.  it was a different high though.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933410 - 07/12/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What 404 said basically lol


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: impatientguy] * 2
    #21933413 - 07/12/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cbd doesn't get you high, so if you didn't get high, then maybe yeah.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: teamkiller]
    #21933434 - 07/12/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i've also made cbd oil with a friend who was very into vaping and had vaped out the thc from the bud and the leftover had plenty of cbd in it.  we made a bit and i drank it and got stoned as fuck.  it was a different high though.




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cbd doesn't get you high, so if you didn't get high, then maybe yeah.




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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933438 - 07/12/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i've also made cbd oil with a friend who was very into vaping and had vaped out the thc from the bud and the leftover had plenty of cbd in it.  we made a bit and i drank it and got stoned as fuck.  it was a different high though.




I am not familiar with this type of extraction but it sounds like you just had bud that had small amounts of THC and other cannabinoids left in it and it got you high.

CBD doesn't get you stoned or high in any way shape or form. The only psychoactivity CBD has is it is a mild anxiolytic.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21933445 - 07/12/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys you fuckin rock, had a feeling he was full of bologna...Much love and positive vibrations Shroomery family!<3
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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933452 - 07/12/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh ya I know I wasn't trying to get high and am aware CBD is pretty much the medicinal benefits of pot without the psychoactive effects. Just wanted to know if the extraction process was bogus cuz I know if there isn't thc in there I wont really feel anything. Thanks again guys
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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933459 - 07/12/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It sounds like bogus, he is trying to sell you bud that he has extracted all the good stuff from and you are left with the tasteless, nearly useless bud. If you have a lot of it, you could run an extraction or make edibles with it


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast] * 1
    #21933460 - 07/12/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In all practicality there are strains with virtually no thc vs CBD... while it may have -some- its so little enough I don't think its fair to say he's full of shit.

Most of the people in this thread have no clue what they're talking about - I've seen strains with well over a 15:1 and even up to almost 40:1 ratio CBD to THC

Seen .5% THC to 20% CBD


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21933484 - 07/12/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i've also made cbd oil with a friend who was very into vaping and had vaped out the thc from the bud and the leftover had plenty of cbd in it.  we made a bit and i drank it and got stoned as fuck.  it was a different high though.




I am not familiar with this type of extraction but it sounds like you just had bud that had small amounts of THC and other cannabinoids left in it and it got you high.

CBD doesn't get you stoned or high in any way shape or form. The only psychoactivity CBD has is it is a mild anxiolytic.




i'm sure it still had other cannabinoids, it was a very amateur "extraction."  i felt absolutely no anxiety and my body felt like it was floating kind of.  i know there was much more cbd in there than other stuff.  and we did a lot, and i drank half of what we made.  so i consumed a lot and definitely felt effects.  maybe i shouldn't have used "stoned as fuck" because i wasn't, but i definitely was feeling the cbd.  and most likely other cannabinoids.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast] * 1
    #21933498 - 07/12/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud.




LOL! nah bro, you're probably just getting sold shitty weed that's been kieffed, or "ran". He's using the trichromes (mostly pure THC) to make his hash and gives you the leftovers. You're smoking more plant matter for less effects in general.

otherwise, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, THC and CBD are part of the same cannabanoid chain (THC degrades into CBD/CBN with time/heat) all cannabanoids are soluble in the same ways (non-polar solvents/fats), so the butane is not discriminating which cannabanoid it's pulling. He COULD provoke more THC than CBD to his hash by attaining certain temps. via this guide: http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/1051569-simple-method-isolating-extracting-individual-cannabinoids-badkittysmiles.html and it is easier to influence THC to CBD since it degrades in that direction, but I doubt ANYONE would go that in depth to isolate cannabinoids and even then it would be too difficult for most and it's not a set science in some dude's living-room.

TL;DR you are getting weed that is reduced in ALL cannabinoids overall, not THC explicitly.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast] * 1
    #21933499 - 07/12/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey guys! I rarely post on here but totally enjoy the wisdom and good reads on this online community...

Anywho my friend said she gets pure CBD buds, which I figured only came in oils, wax, or pot with thc also in it. So she came over I made a lil guap ;D but then her friend asked for a better deal if he gave me some CBD. Sounds cool ill give it a shot. Well the skinny jean homo pulls out a bag of grounded up ganga. Looked like mashed up Mexican brick. So I took a small sample...They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud. {Im on probation and take drug tests once a week) So I rolled a fatty and proceeded to toke, I felt a slight change in mood but then again I popped a 2mg Kpin a few hours before burning down. The stuff doesn't smell like pot, it is green and grounded up and really has not much of a taste. My friend, she swears it works for her anxiety but what I wanna know is this a scam and is it even possible to extract thc from pot but leave a sufficient amount of CBD in it? Thanks guys, I trust your opinions and thoughts more then google=)
~AGypsy



they probably either blasted it with butane to make BHO or vaped it already. Either way it's a rip off, don't buy it.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933500 - 07/12/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you were feeling the small amounts of thc. cbd doesn't cause any noticeable "high"


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21933515 - 07/12/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Who the Fuck smokes pot without wanting to get stoned? At least a little stoned!


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21933520 - 07/12/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i disagree.  and i only disagree cause of the anti-anxiety properties.  to people like me with very high levels of anxiety, i feel it can get you somewhat high.  not the classic high from smoking good weed, but just an alleviation of anxiety that allows you to feel good.  like i said, i'm sure some thc was leftover, but for how strong in cbd levels it was and for how high my anxiety was at the time it definitely caused a shift in my head space.  it also has pain reliving properties which i associated with the floaty feeling.  but i know the thc had a part to play in that.  the "high" was nothing like a traditional stone.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933528 - 07/12/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud.





Yeah this part seems very doubtful. I guess there would be ways of extracting everything, isolating the CBD from the oil, and adding the CBD back to the weed, but it seems a lot more likely it's just used up plant material with little cannabinoids as people are saying. Maybe your friend is just experiencing placebo anti-anxiety effects.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933533 - 07/12/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It could have just been a smaller ratio of cbd:thc, like 3:1, 2:1, or even 1:1. Small amounts of THC are totally blocked if there is even a 5:1 ratio because CBD is a CB1 (psychoactive) antagonist.

If you had something like a 1:1 ratio, I know from experience that it feels similar to what you are describing. A very light stone that doesn't make you feel high, just mellow and a little floaty


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933535 - 07/12/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd guess that THC has the highest psychoactive effect independently, then it degrades from there, down the chain.

I know that CBD does have light psychoactive effects.

My hypothesis is that you don't really get high when you vape (mostly THC) or eat CBD edibles because it's a profile of different cannabanoids (targeting a plethora of receptors) that really promote a psychoactive effect. Influencing one or two targeted cannabanoid receptors with only one type of cannabanoid produces predictable effects that your mind adapts to quickly (physically and thus mentally)

My take on it.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21933548 - 07/12/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I love dank ass shatter made by me and a bottle of everclear!!!!:dawerp:

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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21933553 - 07/12/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't say that is entirely true, but I know Marinol (which exactly mimicks pure THC) can get you really high, but it feels so clean that you don't even notice it most of the time. The other cannabinoids create a more noticeable psychoactive effect by "dirtying" the THC.

But you can still feel pure CBD and pure THC on their own


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21933582 - 07/12/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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it feels so clean that you don't even notice it most of the time.

But you can still feel pure CBD and pure THC on their own




For sure, overloading one receptor will provide an intense, monochromatic high, semi-loading a lot of receptors will provide an equally intense experience, but with a different feel.

There's a point of diminishing returns in the effects , but the effects are more pure when using pure substances. Hence why CBD is better for pain/anxiety and THC for eating.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation] * 1
    #21934028 - 07/12/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if bud has more cbd then thc the thc is at like 4%
so she probably scrapped off the crystals and all that's left is mostly cbd amoung other things


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: twighead]
    #21934514 - 07/12/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In all practicality there are strains with virtually no thc vs CBD... while it may have -some- its so little enough I don't think its fair to say he's full of shit.

Most of the people in this thread have no clue what they're talking about - I've seen strains with well over a 15:1 and even up to almost 40:1 ratio CBD to THC

Seen .5% THC to 20% CBD




Virtually no THC and .5% THC is a big difference.  There is virtually no shit in the food you eat, there is 0.5% fecal matter on your sandwich if you wipe your asshole using the  roll before eating it.  You will piss dirty if you smoke a low THC strain.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #21934530 - 07/12/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no female marijuana plant that will produce 0% thc or naturally produce more cbd then thc unless it's like 1/100


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934535 - 07/12/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean CBD is a scheduled substance

who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934542 - 07/12/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

give me thc plz

too much cbd makes feel jittery and crazy


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934555 - 07/12/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

.5 is virtually no thc, even hemp produces like .3% i believe, something like that

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who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?




the same people making pure oils and crystal from them for medical shit

if you run a search on pure cbd there are a few companies making pure cbd extracts, 99.999% cbd saying a gram and a half of the shit per bottle. pretty expensive too


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: zZZz]
    #21934662 - 07/12/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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give me thc plz

too much cbd makes feel jittery and crazy




People forget that THC treats more common problems that CBD doesn't/doesn't do well.

THC fights depression, stress, pain, cancer, and mood just to name a few

That is what the actual "high" itself offers, and without it you are missing out on cannabis' main use medically.

The one thing I see CBD being useful for is combating the negatives of THC. On it's own, it is still a good medicine but the synergy between not just CBD+THC but all cannabinoids within cannabis flowers is the best medicine you can get


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21934687 - 07/12/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, but honestly... I'm getting a little tired of hearing about medical marijuana. I just like being stoned and want to be left the Fuck alone while I'm doing it. You don't like it, fine, turn your head and walk away. It's not like I'm going to get stoned, then get mean and beat my wife.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21936157 - 07/13/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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.5 is virtually no thc, even hemp produces like .3% i believe, something like that

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who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?




the same people making pure oils and crystal from them for medical shit

if you run a search on pure cbd there are a few companies making pure cbd extracts, 99.999% cbd saying a gram and a half of the shit per bottle. pretty expensive too




Hemp plants don't have virtually no THC either.  US currency has virtually no THC on it, marijuana plants have plenty of THC in them.  You can get high off of hemp buds if you consume a few grams, the same cannot be said for US currency.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: fapjack]
    #21936165 - 07/13/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

(Modern) US paper money isn't made from hemp, it's made from cotton and linen.

http://www.moneyfactory.com/resources/faqs.html


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: psi]
    #21936246 - 07/13/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you vape at lower temps you can vape out all the thc (or at least the vast majority) because it vapes at a lower temp leaving just the CBD and CBN and then sell the AVB and let people get high off the other cannabanoids or you could extract the CBx left that have higher vape temps like you would normally and boom theres an explanation for how you could get pure cbd oil



they have isolated and extracted THCA THCV CBD CBN CBG and CBC that i know of into pure - no thc lotions - kinda cool, and they are finding new cannabanoids every week it seems like


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21936262 - 07/13/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i disagree.  and i only disagree cause of the anti-anxiety properties.  to people like me with very high levels of anxiety, i feel it can get you somewhat high.  not the classic high from smoking good weed, but just an alleviation of anxiety that allows you to feel good.  like i said, i'm sure some thc was leftover, but for how strong in cbd levels it was and for how high my anxiety was at the time it definitely caused a shift in my head space.  it also has pain reliving properties which i associated with the floaty feeling.  but i know the thc had a part to play in that.  the "high" was nothing like a traditional stone.




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"Canibidol (CBD) has been shown to possess several desirable pharmacological properties wahriech exhibited in absence of the psychoactive properties of THC, (Karler and Turkanis, 1981) which are usually associated with the cannabinoids. Although the levels of CBD detected inthe oil were low at 10 mg/kg, its presence could still provide some benefit. CBD has been reported to reduce tremors in dystonic movement disorders with minimal side effects (Consroeet al., 1986). Patients receiving doses of CBD ranging from 100-600 mg/day had tremor reductions of 20450%. (Consroe et al., 1986). The anticonvulsant and anti-epileptic activity of CBD has also been well documented (Karleret al. 1973), (Karler and Turkanis, 1981). CBD has been found to be relatively selective with respect to the central nervous system (CNS), in contrast to THC (Karler and Turkanis,1981). Its anticonvulsant activity is on the same order of magnitude of THC, but unlike THC, it lacks psychoactivity. CBD’s added efficacy as an anti-epileptic, without the associated side effects of psychoactivity, giveit great pharmacological potential"

http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-foods-gen/documents/document/ucm265977.pdf

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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21936287 - 07/13/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's what my buddy does. His neighbor comes over and only picks up the vaped bud because it gives him less anxiety.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21936336 - 07/13/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud.




Sound's like you smoked already blasted weed. Like someone made BHO and is trying to sell the weed off as CBD.

Was it overly dark?


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21937001 - 07/13/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21937014 - 07/13/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All the cannabinoids would be lowered to more basic ones like cbd/CBN through the process though. Still, that's a good salesman right there.

Or OP is a Markey-Mark.


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