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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21933528 - 07/12/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud.





Yeah this part seems very doubtful. I guess there would be ways of extracting everything, isolating the CBD from the oil, and adding the CBD back to the weed, but it seems a lot more likely it's just used up plant material with little cannabinoids as people are saying. Maybe your friend is just experiencing placebo anti-anxiety effects.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933533 - 07/12/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It could have just been a smaller ratio of cbd:thc, like 3:1, 2:1, or even 1:1. Small amounts of THC are totally blocked if there is even a 5:1 ratio because CBD is a CB1 (psychoactive) antagonist.

If you had something like a 1:1 ratio, I know from experience that it feels similar to what you are describing. A very light stone that doesn't make you feel high, just mellow and a little floaty


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21933535 - 07/12/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd guess that THC has the highest psychoactive effect independently, then it degrades from there, down the chain.

I know that CBD does have light psychoactive effects.

My hypothesis is that you don't really get high when you vape (mostly THC) or eat CBD edibles because it's a profile of different cannabanoids (targeting a plethora of receptors) that really promote a psychoactive effect. Influencing one or two targeted cannabanoid receptors with only one type of cannabanoid produces predictable effects that your mind adapts to quickly (physically and thus mentally)

My take on it.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21933548 - 07/12/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I love dank ass shatter made by me and a bottle of everclear!!!!:dawerp:

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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21933553 - 07/12/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't say that is entirely true, but I know Marinol (which exactly mimicks pure THC) can get you really high, but it feels so clean that you don't even notice it most of the time. The other cannabinoids create a more noticeable psychoactive effect by "dirtying" the THC.

But you can still feel pure CBD and pure THC on their own


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21933582 - 07/12/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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it feels so clean that you don't even notice it most of the time.

But you can still feel pure CBD and pure THC on their own




For sure, overloading one receptor will provide an intense, monochromatic high, semi-loading a lot of receptors will provide an equally intense experience, but with a different feel.

There's a point of diminishing returns in the effects , but the effects are more pure when using pure substances. Hence why CBD is better for pain/anxiety and THC for eating.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Giftofdeprivation] * 1
    #21934028 - 07/12/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if bud has more cbd then thc the thc is at like 4%
so she probably scrapped off the crystals and all that's left is mostly cbd amoung other things


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: twighead]
    #21934514 - 07/12/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In all practicality there are strains with virtually no thc vs CBD... while it may have -some- its so little enough I don't think its fair to say he's full of shit.

Most of the people in this thread have no clue what they're talking about - I've seen strains with well over a 15:1 and even up to almost 40:1 ratio CBD to THC

Seen .5% THC to 20% CBD




Virtually no THC and .5% THC is a big difference.  There is virtually no shit in the food you eat, there is 0.5% fecal matter on your sandwich if you wipe your asshole using the  roll before eating it.  You will piss dirty if you smoke a low THC strain.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #21934530 - 07/12/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no female marijuana plant that will produce 0% thc or naturally produce more cbd then thc unless it's like 1/100


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934535 - 07/12/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean CBD is a scheduled substance

who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934542 - 07/12/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

give me thc plz

too much cbd makes feel jittery and crazy


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Konyap]
    #21934555 - 07/12/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

.5 is virtually no thc, even hemp produces like .3% i believe, something like that

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who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?




the same people making pure oils and crystal from them for medical shit

if you run a search on pure cbd there are a few companies making pure cbd extracts, 99.999% cbd saying a gram and a half of the shit per bottle. pretty expensive too


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: zZZz]
    #21934662 - 07/12/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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give me thc plz

too much cbd makes feel jittery and crazy




People forget that THC treats more common problems that CBD doesn't/doesn't do well.

THC fights depression, stress, pain, cancer, and mood just to name a few

That is what the actual "high" itself offers, and without it you are missing out on cannabis' main use medically.

The one thing I see CBD being useful for is combating the negatives of THC. On it's own, it is still a good medicine but the synergy between not just CBD+THC but all cannabinoids within cannabis flowers is the best medicine you can get


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21934687 - 07/12/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, but honestly... I'm getting a little tired of hearing about medical marijuana. I just like being stoned and want to be left the Fuck alone while I'm doing it. You don't like it, fine, turn your head and walk away. It's not like I'm going to get stoned, then get mean and beat my wife.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: 404]
    #21936157 - 07/13/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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.5 is virtually no thc, even hemp produces like .3% i believe, something like that

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who the fuck is going to produce a chemical in mass that doesn't get you high?




the same people making pure oils and crystal from them for medical shit

if you run a search on pure cbd there are a few companies making pure cbd extracts, 99.999% cbd saying a gram and a half of the shit per bottle. pretty expensive too




Hemp plants don't have virtually no THC either.  US currency has virtually no THC on it, marijuana plants have plenty of THC in them.  You can get high off of hemp buds if you consume a few grams, the same cannot be said for US currency.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: fapjack]
    #21936165 - 07/13/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

(Modern) US paper money isn't made from hemp, it's made from cotton and linen.

http://www.moneyfactory.com/resources/faqs.html


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: psi]
    #21936246 - 07/13/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you vape at lower temps you can vape out all the thc (or at least the vast majority) because it vapes at a lower temp leaving just the CBD and CBN and then sell the AVB and let people get high off the other cannabanoids or you could extract the CBx left that have higher vape temps like you would normally and boom theres an explanation for how you could get pure cbd oil



they have isolated and extracted THCA THCV CBD CBN CBG and CBC that i know of into pure - no thc lotions - kinda cool, and they are finding new cannabanoids every week it seems like


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21936262 - 07/13/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i disagree.  and i only disagree cause of the anti-anxiety properties.  to people like me with very high levels of anxiety, i feel it can get you somewhat high.  not the classic high from smoking good weed, but just an alleviation of anxiety that allows you to feel good.  like i said, i'm sure some thc was leftover, but for how strong in cbd levels it was and for how high my anxiety was at the time it definitely caused a shift in my head space.  it also has pain reliving properties which i associated with the floaty feeling.  but i know the thc had a part to play in that.  the "high" was nothing like a traditional stone.




Meant to address this earlier.
"Canibidol (CBD) has been shown to possess several desirable pharmacological properties wahriech exhibited in absence of the psychoactive properties of THC, (Karler and Turkanis, 1981) which are usually associated with the cannabinoids. Although the levels of CBD detected inthe oil were low at 10 mg/kg, its presence could still provide some benefit. CBD has been reported to reduce tremors in dystonic movement disorders with minimal side effects (Consroeet al., 1986). Patients receiving doses of CBD ranging from 100-600 mg/day had tremor reductions of 20450%. (Consroe et al., 1986). The anticonvulsant and anti-epileptic activity of CBD has also been well documented (Karleret al. 1973), (Karler and Turkanis, 1981). CBD has been found to be relatively selective with respect to the central nervous system (CNS), in contrast to THC (Karler and Turkanis,1981). Its anticonvulsant activity is on the same order of magnitude of THC, but unlike THC, it lacks psychoactivity. CBD’s added efficacy as an anti-epileptic, without the associated side effects of psychoactivity, giveit great pharmacological potential"

http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-foods-gen/documents/document/ucm265977.pdf

I'm having a hard time copypasta'ing this over from the pdf for some reason.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: trippinballs420]
    #21936287 - 07/13/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's what my buddy does. His neighbor comes over and only picks up the vaped bud because it gives him less anxiety.


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Re: CBD bud with no THC? Is this guy trying to con people? [Re: MistaToast]
    #21936336 - 07/13/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They told me their friend extracts the THC into hash oil and leaves the CBD in the bud.




Sound's like you smoked already blasted weed. Like someone made BHO and is trying to sell the weed off as CBD.

Was it overly dark?


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