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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933607 - 07/12/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Does water work as well?  I would have thought a mix would work a bit better.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933616 - 07/12/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the jury is still out on if one is better than the other.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21933620 - 07/12/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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FWIW, you could just do a water extract and evaporate it to a tar. The alkaloids are readily soluble in water.



This..  But don't take it to tar, take it down to a shot or two of drink.  It'll get in you quicker..


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21933622 - 07/12/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed. I just use both a little acidic water and a splash of everclear. I figure I'm getting the full spectrum that way.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21933642 - 07/12/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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FWIW, you could just do a water extract and evaporate it to a tar. The alkaloids are readily soluble in water.




One big difference between alcohol and water extractions is that when extracting with alcohol the powder does not expand by volume. This makes it a hell lot easier to handle.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933650 - 07/12/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh god I really don't wanna drink concentrated cactus, I think I'd rather have tea lol


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933655 - 07/12/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You don't want to drink anything like that trust me dry it scrape it and put it in capsules


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21933673 - 07/12/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Does  it still expand if you use a water/alcohol mix?

Will regular vodka be enough, I'm finding it hard to find a higher %.

Is there any other safe alcohol or is it OK to use the other stuff if I give it long enough to evap?


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933678 - 07/12/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Vodka diluted to about 30% and some acid mixed in will be a wonder solvent for your cactus


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933682 - 07/12/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Iso is fine if fully evaporated


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933692 - 07/12/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Oh god I really don't wanna drink concentrated cactus, I think I'd rather have tea lol



That's what I'm saying, tea.  1 and done..  The smell's gonna trip you up more than the taste will.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933709 - 07/12/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

IMO it just tastes to bad to do that if you dry it out you can just eat like ten to 20 little balls or like 10  00 capsules


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933724 - 07/12/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah little balls sound great lol

So regular vodka 30% plus  70% water and a dash of lime?

Just looking for a good full spectrum extraction here :smile:

Close as tea without drinking snot, although I do intend to try the snot when my cuttings have gotten bigger.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933736 - 07/12/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes but I would just use some distilled vinegar. Lime juice will work though


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya] * 1
    #21933740 - 07/12/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just for the future, if you want to try the tea.. if you slice up the cactus and boil it fresh it doesn't make snot.  Check out the traditional preparations.  It's not snot, it's a tinted liquid.  And it takes about 2 swallows to "get there".. 

Just for future reference :thumbup:


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933753 - 07/12/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is rubbing alcohol ok?


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933761 - 07/12/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Just for the future, if you want to try the tea.. if you slice up the cactus and boil it fresh it doesn't make snot.  Check out the traditional preparations.  It's not snot, it's a tinted liquid.  And it takes about 2 swallows to "get there".. 

Just for future reference :thumbup:




I'm glad you said this as thats just the way I was thinking of making the tea :smile:

Everyone seems to want to blend it.


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933768 - 07/12/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Iso is rubbing alcohol :thumbup:


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933770 - 07/12/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You'll be able to tell when your chunks are spent.  Keep them in one pot simmering, and dump those washes into another set just enough to steam.  You can hold it up to light and see through it when you're done and you can use a callendar as a strainer, no shirt needed..


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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21933784 - 07/12/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Does  it still expand if you use a water/alcohol mix?

Will regular vodka be enough, I'm finding it hard to find a higher %.

Is there any other safe alcohol or is it OK to use the other stuff if I give it long enough to evap?




Go to polish shop or speak to some polish people if you know any. Ask them about 95% imported ethanol for liquor production, they should be able to get you 500ml for £10-20. I used it for all of my extr. until now that I'm testing this 99% rocket fuel from *bay


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