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sarahnya
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Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction?
#21933258 - 07/12/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yet another question for which I can find no definite answer.
I'm wanting to try an alcohol extraction on some San Pedro powder but have read the % of alcohol actually makes a difference. Now I don't know if it's true or not but I found several posts saying that if you use a lower alcohol with a little water in it actually extracts more alkaloids and you get a better experience, can anyone else confirm this?
What alcohol would people recommend? Could I just get 99% ad add a little water or?
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933286 - 07/12/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like around 30 percent just because any more is a waste of ever clear. Plus if you use alcohol and water you get the full spectrumof alkaloids. extract and tea together. Filter it well!!
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933296 - 07/12/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get ever clear and remove the core and wax of the cactus
it takes a while but your end product will be very potent
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933301 - 07/12/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933309 - 07/12/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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30% alcohol or water?
What do you use for a filter? Can I use a cheesecloth?
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933317 - 07/12/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've purchased powdered San Pedro and Dried P Torch chips so I guess the preparation bit has already been done.
I do have 5 30cm cuttings (3 SP 2 Bridgesii) on the way too but I'm tempted to plant those and let em grow for now.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933327 - 07/12/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A clean white t shirt is what I use when I have a lot to filter and I use around 20-30%everclear
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933332 - 07/12/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933361 - 07/12/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933369 - 07/12/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah that should work but you will have to make sure it's completely dry so you don't ingest any iso. You can drink everclear. But if you can't get it than iso will work too.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933406 - 07/12/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm I'd rather something edible too though, what else can I use?
I looked up Bacardi 151 but it was £65 a bottle!
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933416 - 07/12/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha well even vodka would work since you planned on diluting the everclear anyway. But it might leave some impurities behind so vodka work work if ya want crystals. But it will give you a crude extract.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933422 - 07/12/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry I meant vodka won't work if ya want crysals but it will leave you a pretty good crude extract
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933560 - 07/12/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah no I want all the alkaloids present. I was just gonna dry it as much as poss, roll it in flour to make little pills and down em.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933564 - 07/12/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vodka sounds ideal for you then haha
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: sarahnya]
#21933593 - 07/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FWIW, you could just do a water extract and evaporate it to a tar. The alkaloids are readily soluble in water.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933597 - 07/12/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is the rest of the content in it water then? I'm gonna have to goto the liquor store, they are gonna think I'm a piss head.
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21933599 - 07/12/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Add a splash of vinegar per boil to help make the alkaloids more soluable in water if you use the water route
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933601 - 07/12/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, vinegar or citric acid or HCl...
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Re: Best % Alcohol For Cactus Powder Extraction? [Re: impatientguy]
#21933603 - 07/12/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah vodka doesn't have much in it but water and alcohol. But it has a little residue I'd imagine.
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