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How to face a problem?
    #21931948 - 07/12/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think especially after quitting smoking I feel a lot of anger at moments. They say as a smoker when you face a problem you light up and forget about the problem and never deal with it.

Now without a stog to sedate I feel extremely angry for something. How do I cope with anger and issues? Or is this constant life unavoidable for an average person like me?


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #21931967 - 07/12/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your anger will subside eventually. It takes a while though.


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #21932003 - 07/12/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well if it;s for something like nicotine withdrawal, all u gotta do remind is urself that u are angry because u are withdrawing. as the days go by the anger will eventually subside on it's own


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: zZZz]
    #21947224 - 07/15/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it takes a few weeks to settle, but don't wait for it to happen, set up a meditation schedule


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #21951862 - 07/16/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a hypnotherapist. What I do is regress a client, and follow whatever emotion is presenting itself as a 'bridge' back in time to its point of origination. This is an art more than a science. Sometimes I land on an incident and wrongly believe that its the ISE - Initial Sensitizing Event (the first event causing the trauma) when it's just a Subsequent Sensitizing Event (a 2nd or other similar event). So, for example, I once mistakenly thought  that a girl's stutter originated from an unpleasant event of high school stage-fright. But she phoned after the session (people who stutter typically do not stutter while in hypnosis or shortly thereafter) to say that she still stuttered. Back to the therapy chair. Turns out the stutter developed at age 3 when she was forced to go on stage and froze. Then the audience began to laugh at the poor child, further traumatizing her. She had forgotten this event, but regression exposed it as the source. Stutters are formed by forcing someone to talk, or conversely from forbidding a child to talk or to cry.

Anger and fear are primal emotions. They are normal reactions to obvious stimuli, but when there is no obvious stimulus for such reactions, that suggests that there may be an emotional 'endless tape-loop' stuck in the timelessness of the unconscious that sends up periodic emotional outbursts. There was an initial event which planted this 'emotional seed' of anger. The welling-up of anger is like a weed, and the only way to get rid of a weed is to pull it out of the matrix of the earth it is rooted in. But you must not leave any significant bit of root or else the whole weed will grow back. In the act of smoking, one is sucking some emotion back inside, figuratively. But one is also sucking death inside in the form of numerous deadly poisons. The act of smoking tobacco is an act of self-destruction disguised by the idea of pleasure. But it is a deception, and using a behavior to poison or kill unwanted emotions is also a deception. The whole gestalt is inter-related. With the mask removed, you see the probable cause underlying the smoking behavior. It is not the normal state of being - to have simple peace of mind punctuated by anger of no known cause. The tack would be to unearth the cause and remove it therapeutically IMO.


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21972093 - 07/20/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Another potential reason you rise to anger quickly is that you're tense from resisting the pull towards another smoke. The fight response being nearby on hand because of the increased tension in your body.


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #21972134 - 07/20/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomboy5 said:
I think especially after quitting smoking I feel a lot of anger at moments. They say as a smoker when you face a problem you light up and forget about the problem and never deal with it.

Now without a stog to sedate I feel extremely angry for something. How do I cope with anger and issues? Or is this constant life unavoidable for an average person like me?





hard physical exercise works for me. Smashing a racquetball a few hundred times an hour releases stress. For others it is boxing or running or ...?


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21972168 - 07/20/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sex


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #21972183 - 07/20/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You just have to learn another coping strategy.  Just search coping strategies on google and there are all sorts of ways you can deal with things.  You'll prolly find a few that resonate with you.  Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Kickle]
    #21972192 - 07/20/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

running does the job for me

run till u puke ur guts out, i gurantee the last thing on ur mind will be a cig, and if it's the first thing on ur mind then u're probably gonna puke just from thought of u smoking another cig..


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Kickle]
    #21982782 - 07/23/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kickle said:
Another potential reason you rise to anger quickly is that you're tense from resisting the pull towards another smoke. The fight response being nearby on hand because of the increased tension in your body.




Irritability is understandable, but it is one of those secondary consequences.


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22009818 - 07/28/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As far as I've been able to discern everything is secondary to something else along the line. it's difficult to say where anything truly originates IME. not that there isn't value in trying. but sometimes getting the closest and most direct is the most effective in the short term and potentially, if channeled towards larger themes, the long term as well. :thumbup:


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Re: How to face a problem? [Re: Shroomboy5]
    #22013516 - 07/29/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomboy5 said:
I think especially after quitting smoking I feel a lot of anger at moments. They say as a smoker when you face a problem you light up and forget about the problem and never deal with it.

Now without a stog to sedate I feel extremely angry for something. How do I cope with anger and issues? Or is this constant life unavoidable for an average person like me?




My most beloved role model John Lydon recently published a book called Anger Is An Energy.

Shit, perhaps this e-cig is the reason I just want to watch crime tv series and be minimally productive.


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