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firstTIMER420
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Spore syringe question
#21931336 - 07/11/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im going to inoculate some grain jars in a day or two, and I wont be using all the solution in the 12cc syringe and I want to save it, as I am going to be making some BRF jars to spawn in some trays the same day.
Now, I over analyze everything, and im posting this to ask, after im done inoculating the grain jars, I plan on heating the needle tip till its red hot again, then capping the needle back up and leaving it in the SAB till the other jars are ready.
I might just take the needle off and stick the nipple back on, and then use another needle tip when the time comes to innoc the BRF jars.
What do you guys suggest? and will heating the needle and capping it be sufficient to avoid getting contams in my BRF jar from anything that might be on the needle.
How do YOU guys store a syringe after use?
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Edited by firstTIMER420 (07/11/15 11:16 PM)
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firstTIMER420
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right after using it, what do you do to store the syringe. do you do what im planning on doing?
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Flame the needle, replace cap and store in a dark cool area
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rxb
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i knock up an agar jar using this tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21899443
let it colonize
and stick it in the fridge.
and stick the rest of the syringe in the fridge to trade to people later.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21931375 - 07/11/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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just make sure that you push the cap all the way on. I did this with my lion's mane culture but didn't close it all the way. didn't lose much but I still don't know if it picked up any contams
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rxb
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if you use agar jars you can just isolate from the contamns... costs almost nothing.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21931893 - 07/12/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rxb said: if you use agar jars you can just isolate from the contamns... costs almost nothing.
Agreed. I personally believe agar to be the most valuable skill set for mycology.
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firstTIMER420
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I plan on starting my agar cultures soon, but your saying before I use the syringe on anything else grow it out on agar to ensure there are no contams.
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Grow it on agar and skip the syringe. Then transfer the faster healthiest growth to be sure its clean. Then use an agar wedge to inoculate. You could put a few drops of ms on agar, have it grow clean, but the syringe still has mold spores in it that mess everything up when you inoculate grains with it. Once you start agar you usually don't go backwards.
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mush madness said: Flame the needle, replace cap and store in a dark cool area
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rxb
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firstTIMER420 said: I plan on starting my agar cultures soon, but your saying before I use the syringe on anything else grow it out on agar to ensure there are no contams.
yes,
exactly, you can also pick and choose traits you like.
there are three ways to go with agar.
the cheapest, and maybe the easiest (i think its as easy or easier than my flowhood) is this... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21899443
or you can build a SAB which is slightly more expensive and opens you up to a bit more contaminant possibility.
or flow hoods, which are large heavy and expencive. but they allow you to open up agar plates without fear of contaminants
so closed not risky...open risky....open not risky.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21935334 - 07/12/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rxb, I don't think that method is any less prone to contamination to opening a jar/dish in a still air box, and I can explain to you why.
When you inoculate that jar and then let it colonize, won't contaminants in the air settle and be trapped in the polyfil, via passage from the GE holes? Now this isn't an issue initially, but when you inject your needle a second time to collect a culture sample, the needle will come into contact with these contaminants trapped that are trapped within polyfil.
When opening a dish in a sab, the only tool coming into contact with the culture will be a flame sterilize metal object, like a scalpel or x-acto knife.
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rxb
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TheEaglesGift said: rxb, I don't think that method is any less prone to contamination to opening a jar/dish in a still air box, and I can explain to you why.
When you inoculate that jar and then let it colonize, won't contaminants in the air settle and be trapped in the polyfil, via passage from the GE holes? Now this isn't an issue initially, but when you inject your needle a second time to collect a culture sample, the needle will come into contact with these contaminants trapped that are trapped within polyfil.
When opening a dish in a sab, the only tool coming into contact with the culture will be a flame sterilize metal object, like a scalpel or x-acto knife.
i dont KNOW... But i dont think so, i havent had any issues with contamination at all in 30 or so trials. furthermore some plates have recolonized after having water added and removed. i suppose there needs to be testing done with the system someplace other than MY lab to be sure. the results i've had have been quite enjoyable. and i think that it might be better, to use a soft rubber lid with a SHIP ... but that will increase the cost factor and like i said i've not had 1 contaminated plate and i've been playing with this for a while.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
Edited by rxb (07/13/15 04:51 AM)
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21936075 - 07/13/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i guess maybe the long term storage tests will show more. we shall see.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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rxb
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what do you think would be the best way to test your theory?
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21936549 - 07/13/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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purposly add trich spores to your polyfill
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Re: Spore syringe question [Re: rxb]
#21936756 - 07/13/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rxb said:
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TheEaglesGift said: rxb, I don't think that method is any less prone to contamination to opening a jar/dish in a still air box, and I can explain to you why.
When you inoculate that jar and then let it colonize, won't contaminants in the air settle and be trapped in the polyfil, via passage from the GE holes? Now this isn't an issue initially, but when you inject your needle a second time to collect a culture sample, the needle will come into contact with these contaminants trapped that are trapped within polyfil.
When opening a dish in a sab, the only tool coming into contact with the culture will be a flame sterilize metal object, like a scalpel or x-acto knife.
i dont KNOW... But i dont think so, i havent had any issues with contamination at all in 30 or so trials. furthermore some plates have recolonized after having water added and removed. i suppose there needs to be testing done with the system someplace other than MY lab to be sure. the results i've had have been quite enjoyable. and i think that it might be better, to use a soft rubber lid with a SHIP ... but that will increase the cost factor and like i said i've not had 1 contaminated plate and i've been playing with this for a while.
If you were to store your jars in a relatively clean tote and/or lab that would certainly increase your success rate. Letting these guys sit out in a dirty bedroom or kitchen wouldn't be the best place to let them colonize. Everything I know about mycology and sterile work tells me that whatever ends up in that filter can definitely end up in that jar. SHIP ports might be better, but I can picture them popping off as you try to manipulate your needle within the port to scrape/suck up some myc.
If you're having success, then that should be all that matters to you.
I do like the fact you can work on these in open air, though I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. I used to do it in the past, but I've gotten very used to my SAB and do everything in there these days.
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tryptkaloids said: purposly add trich spores to your polyfill
well i can put some blue mold on top, i dont have any trich cultures... i have a couple of house hold mold cultures (and can get more with open plates)... i hesitate to put them on the top without somehow isolating the jar from the lab tho ...as i dont really want a heavily contaminated lab.
i may setup a plastic clean room and try it... not anytime soon probably.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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