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Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones
    #21930857 - 07/11/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i see why there are so many negative reports on aminitas. there are some that just cause bad trips. But when you get good ones, they are the most incredible entheogen in existence.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21930897 - 07/11/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you suggest hunting or ordering the good ones?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Weiliithinker] * 1
    #21930902 - 07/11/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what are good amanitas? Please be specific.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: tripologist] * 1
    #21930939 - 07/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The actives in ALL edible amanita muscaria  are the same. Muscimol and ibotenic acid and they both suck IMO. I'm sorry to say, but to each his own.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: tripologist]
    #21930989 - 07/11/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest hunting them.


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what are good amanitas? Please be specific.





Honestly couldn't tell you. All I know is I have tried aminitas from different sources and different locations and they have totally different effects. Some are amazing, some give a really crappy experience, which is why I think there are so many negative reports, that and people taking too much and not understanding the point of the experience.

All I can suggest is not to give up if you only experience bad trips. Keep trying with different aminitas (try ordering them if you cant find any good ones).


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21931677 - 07/12/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Deviate said:
I suggest hunting them.


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what are good amanitas? Please be specific.





Honestly couldn't tell you. All I know is I have tried aminitas from different sources and different locations and they have totally different effects. Some are amazing, some give a really crappy experience, which is why I think there are so many negative reports, that and people taking too much and not understanding the point of the experience.

All I can suggest is not to give up if you only experience bad trips. Keep trying with different aminitas (try ordering them if you cant find any good ones).



I think this should tell you that they are very inconsistent.

I think most people would say psilocybin is better. I haven't tried amanitas but I have friends who have, and they liked psilocybin better.

Do you cook before you consume them?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: drr]
    #21932085 - 07/12/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, they can be very inconsistent. Also, I believe you must be a spiritual seeker to truly understand and appreciate amimita. Aminita allows you to rest into the presence of God.

Of course anyone who doesn't care about God is not going to appreciate that and many of those people will like psilocybin better because it gives you more of a party type experience. Not that psilos are a party drug for me, I find them deeply sacred as well. But lots and lots of people eat mushrooms for fun, rather than to heal themselves and get in touch with the Great Spirit.

But Aminita is so much better than psilocybin. Aminita is like tripping without tripping. You get the enthogenic effects, the spiritual effects and yet you dont have to deal with the strain that classical psychedelics put on your brain. You can do aminita whenever, every day even. Afte I trip on psilos I never want any more for a while. I feel tired and sensitve afterward. Psilos also make me more sensitive to whatever negative things I may be feelign, whereas aminita is a painkiller. Its just so much better of a drug for a guy like me who has already had a lot of classical psychedelic experiences and doesnt really need to keep stretching my consciouinsess outward in that way all the time anymore.

I will still take mescaline on occasion and I want to try LSA but other than that, I just dont need to keep repeating the psychedelic experience. Aminita on the other hand, helps me to enter a state of shamanic ecstasy but without stretching my awareness across the universe or making my brain exhausted. It keeps me grouded right here, only I feel filled with the Spirit.

What more could I ask from a drug?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21932770 - 07/12/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sOunds intriguing.

I have some growing in my state, ive always been weary to experiment with them, not sure how to prepare them.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21932847 - 07/12/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i see why there are so many negative reports on aminitas. there are some that just cause bad trips. But when you get good ones, they are the most incredible entheogen in existence.




There is a guy who is somekind of shaman. He has based his life on hunting and ingesting amanitas. There is a video of him on Youtube eating a huge fresh amanita like a big mac. He holds seminars a workshops on the amanita and where to find it, identify it, prepare it. He is about 50 years old. Lately he has had to reduce his intake of his beloved mushroom because he is suffering from liver damage. Look him up. Maybe I am presenting him in a bad light.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21932858 - 07/12/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here is the website of the fella I described above:
http://www.somashamans.com/


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21933027 - 07/12/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933321 - 07/12/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha





It was your experience for sure.
But you cannot state that a wordwide growing mushroom, known and used successfully for centuries, does not work just because you had an unpleseant experience or two.

:ohyou:  :justnotright:


More info please. How much did you take? How did you ingest it? Did you feel any unpleseant effects? If so, what have they been like? How long did it last? ..
All of this should be mentioned when making a statement like this.

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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933357 - 07/12/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is two actives in them and they blow lol muscimol and ibotanic acid they both produce zero effects.  The drugs in those mushrooms aren't pyschidelic. No matter where in the world you get them those will be the active ingredients. Those active ingredients just suck is all. Terrence McKenna would've told you guys the same thing if he were still alive.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy] * 1
    #21933461 - 07/12/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There is two actives in them and they blow lol muscimol and ibotanic acid they both produce zero effects. The drugs in those mushrooms aren't pyschidelic. No matter where in the world you get them those will be the active ingredients. Those active ingredients just suck is all. Terrence McKenna would've told you guys the same thing if he were still alive.




I'm interested in what you have to say, not what McKenna or anybody else does.. Are there some specific reasons for you beeing so impatient of Amanitas?

Muscimol is the active substance, ibotenic acid is pretty much the nausedating prodrug beeing decarboxylated in vivo or prior ingestion.

Saying muscimol isn't psychoactive is just wrong. It does not belong amongst classical psychedelics.. that's right.

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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933485 - 07/12/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never gotten ANY effect from them and I have tried them dried and I've had an extract made from fresh ones. They just don't compare to any other drug I've ever tried. I just really think that amanitas suck. Lol but to each his own and if you enjoy the effects from them than I'm happy for you. And I wish you safety.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933489 - 07/12/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)


If you  don't care what Terence McKenna has to say then you obviously haven't watched this yet


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933591 - 07/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha



Terrence McKenna can gtfo..  Who cares what he says?  He'll tell you himself he doesn't know shit.. Opinions, they aren't fact.:eek: :shocking:


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933612 - 07/12/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol with that logic who cares what anyone says.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933614 - 07/12/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Opinions are better than nothing.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy] * 2
    #21933627 - 07/12/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol with that logic who cares what anyone says.



Exactly, for instance if I were to listen to you I would have no idea what Amanita Muscaria's are capable of. :shrug2:


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: drr]
    #21933629 - 07/12/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If you  don't care what Terence McKenna has to say then you obviously haven't watched this yet




I didn't mean to say I don't care what McKenna said. I just don't like the way some people say a drug doesn't work and then quickly refer to someone else's propositions.
If a person has no success with a specific drug then it's not the drug to blame, imo.

There is scientific evidence that muscimol is a psychoactive drug and it's been used as such for thousands of years.

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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933646 - 07/12/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha to each his own I say. Like I said before if you like them I feel happy for you.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #21933817 - 07/12/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If you  don't care what Terence McKenna has to say then you obviously haven't watched this yet




I didn't mean to say I don't care what McKenna said. I just don't like the way some people say a drug doesn't work and then quickly refer to someone else's propositions.
If a person has no success with a specific drug then it's not the drug to blame, imo.

There is scientific evidence that muscimol is a psychoactive drug and it's been used as such for thousands of years.

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LOL No worries man I was being sarcastic

I think its funny how people cling to the guy's words regarding psychedelics. I think he's interesting at best.

Also, I agree with you. The guy that says it has no effect is being stubborn. Anecdotal evidence oh the whole is the opposite of his experience, it would be stupid to assume that everybody else is wrong just because you try a drug a couple times and it doesn't work for you.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933824 - 07/12/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You've tried them dried and fresh. Have you ever tried them slightly cooked? This is supposedly the only way to truly experience them.
Supposedly slightly cooking them converts ibotenic acid to muscimol, intensifying the experience. 
Of course this is just things that I've read, not actual experience. Just my two cents, though.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21933828 - 07/12/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^^ What he said... That's why I asked if he cooked them before


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: drr]
    #21933852 - 07/12/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol no it has never had an effect on me ever and I'm not clinging to Terrences words  I just think he knew his shit about mushrooms and was quite a reliable source of info on them. Most ppl who have tried them that I know (only two others) said the same thing I said and they got it from different vendors than me. And I tried a tincture from fresh ones with no effectsuccess so that's my experience with them I'm not trying to be stubborn like you said I'm just sharing my experience.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933857 - 07/12/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cooking them, from what I read, kills the actives and makes it edible just for calories


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933885 - 07/12/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Although classified as poisonous, reports of human deaths resulting from its ingestion are extremely rare. After parboiling—which weakens its toxicity and breaks down the mushroom's psychoactive substances—it is eaten in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America." Saw this on wiki it also said it was used by some tribes an an ethnogen so Idk I don't care for it personally


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933894 - 07/12/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No bro, that's why I said lightly cooked, not scorched. Every preparation recommends heating it up slightly to convert the ibotenic acid.
Even the one in the shroomery about proper preparation of amanita:

"The ibotenic acid fraction is converted, via the refluxing in water, into muscimol. Inconsequential amounts of other alkaloids ARE present, but largely inactive mentally."


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21933896 - 07/12/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i see why there are so many negative reports on aminitas. there are some that just cause bad trips. But when you get good ones, they are the most incredible entheogen in existence.




There is a guy who is somekind of shaman. He has based his life on hunting and ingesting amanitas. There is a video of him on Youtube eating a huge fresh amanita like a big mac. He holds seminars a workshops on the amanita and where to find it, identify it, prepare it. He is about 50 years old. Lately he has had to reduce his intake of his beloved mushroom because he is suffering from liver damage. Look him up. Maybe I am presenting him in a bad light.




Yeah I know that guy, Hawk is his name and I have been debating back and forth with myself over whether or not to buy his book for a while now. I would've bought it already except you can only pay by Western Union and I always forget to bring the payment info with me when I pass by Western Union.

However, I am a little weary of him. First off, he sounds very elitist to me. I read some of a debate between him and another aminita researcher on here and I felt like he is the type who just thinks his ideas are right no matter what and does not even address other peoples arguments in a fair manner.

Also, the other guy quoted a line from Hawk's book in which Hawk claims to have suffered eighteen overdoses, the last of which caused to lie on the ground having seizures, a massive heart attack and liver failure. He then asks,  does this sound like the sort of person you want to get your information from?

And I have to say, no, no it doesn't. Honestly, Hawk sounds like an aminita ADDICT To me. I mean, 18 overdoses? I could understand maybe having 5 overdoses, maybe even 6 or 7 pver the years but eighteen? Come on. Its hard for me to trust someone for spiritual knowledge who seems to value getting high on aminita more than his own life. But curiosity may still drive me to purchase the book.

Personally I am not worried about my liver because I figure if Hawk is still alive after all the aminita he has done, I will most likely be ok considering I use way, way less than he does and I don't find it necessary to take high doses. I am sure high doses would be amazing, but I seem able to get in touch with God on low doses too. Anyway, yeah crazy guy that Hawk fellow. His wife Venus is also a shaman, I dunno maybe she is less crazy. I would like to read the book.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933933 - 07/12/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha




First of all, I would like to say that I am a HUGE Terrence Mckenna fan.

However, there are some things I think he was simply wrong about. For instance he didn't like mescaline either. THis is what he said about mescaline:

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"To my mind, the psychedelics can be chemically defined, with very few exceptions, as indoles. Now the only exception to this is mescaline. Mescaline is not an indole. It's a phenylethylamine, or some people consider it a cyclicized amphetamine, which is a phenylethylamine. I am not fond of mescaline. It seems to me that to get to psychedelic levels with it, you have to take so much that you're fairly rattled. It's hard on you, and it's hard on you the next day. And many people who are great devotees of peyote, when you question them very closely, it isn't the quality of the visions. It's some more murky thing. It's that they like hanging out with Native Americans, they like drumming all night, they love ceremonies, they like going to the southwest, but it's not the quality of the visions. It's not that mescaline can't do that, it certainly can. If you read these early researchers, like Heinrich Cluvere, S. Weir Mitchell, Havloc Ellis, I mean, these are wonderful descriptions of full-on psychedelic states. But they were using pure mescaline, you know, and close to a gram a throw, which is a lot. Most people when they take pure mescaline, if you actually measure the amount that they're taking, they're taking well under what is clinically considered the effective dose. If you look in the Murke manual or the P.D.R., the clinically recommended dose of pure mescaline is 750 milligrams. Three quarters of a gram of alkaloid! Very few people actually take that." Terence Mckenna





He is right that mescaline is hard on you, but why does he think the experience is somehow less worthwhile if you don't have amazing visions? You can learn so much from mescaline and I greatly prefer it to mushrooms. Its my favorite psychedelic. You dont need to take insane doses to learn about yourself with mescaline either.

So I trust Terrence Mcknenna when it comes to typtamines but that's it.

Also another thing like I said at the beginning I have had aminitas from different sources. Some aminitas just give me unpleasant trips. If I had only tried those aminitas I would probably think aminitas sucked also. So its possible Terrence Mckenna just never tried good ones.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: drr]
    #21933959 - 07/12/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LOL No worries man I was being sarcastic .. I think he's interesting at best. .. Also, I agree with you. ..




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    #21934120 - 07/12/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Like I said if you guys enjoy then then I'm happy for ya but I don't like them.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21934180 - 07/12/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe it's the connection to nature that makes them more spiritual?

Maybe if you seed some psilocybes in your favorite forest and trip there when you harvest you would get a very spiritual trip too?


Forest harvesting is always nice, forest tripping is even nicer

I don't really long for other mushrooms, there are plenty of psilocybes , many different kinds and maybe each with their own trip effect


The joy of growing your own food in nature and eating it
and the joy of growing your own mushrooms in nature?;-)


But maybe just maybe one day I might try an amanita (muscaria) if nature speaks to me / fall over one


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: lessismore]
    #21934210 - 07/12/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea psilocybin blows amanitas out of the water times 1000


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Sadburner]
    #21934864 - 07/12/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I you happen to find good amanitas, they can give you a nice and gentle delirant trip, although other times they can be very unpleasant... Wish there was an easy way to calculate dosages, but it is all trial n error...

Anyway I still prefer psylocibin though, tryptamines are the only kind of substance that allows me to go that deep in consciousness


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: lessismore]
    #21934887 - 07/12/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe it's the connection to nature that makes them more spiritual?

Maybe if you seed some psilocybes in your favorite forest and trip there when you harvest you would get a very spiritual trip too?


Forest harvesting is always nice, forest tripping is even nicer

I don't really long for other mushrooms, there are plenty of psilocybes , many different kinds and maybe each with their own trip effect


The joy of growing your own food in nature and eating it
and the joy of growing your own mushrooms in nature?;-)


But maybe just maybe one day I might try an amanita (muscaria) if nature speaks to me / fall over one





No it has nothing to do with that. I have very spiritual trips on psilocybin mushrooms also but they don't compare to aminita.

The fact of the matter is that Psilocybin mushroom are just another run of the mill psychedelic drug. I mean really, they aren't THAT different from DMT, mescaline, LSD, etc. If I had to give up psilocybin mushrooms forever, it would be no great loss for me. I would just trip on ayahuasca or mescaline instead. Aminita on the other hand are unique and irreplaceable.

You can take them every day. The effects are more predictable and controllable. One major problem with psilocybin is you cant control it. Lets say I want to feel like X so I take some psilocybin and instead of making me feel like X it makes me feel Y. You see? Every trip is different. Aminita is more manageable and less strenuous on the brain.

As Ive said elsewhere, psilocybin represents the expanding force and aminita represents the contracting force. You need both forces. So in that sense I see it as kind of silly to compare them. Each is good in its own way. But so many people on this site seem to want to come and say psilocybin is so much better so I feel the need to respond and say no it isnt..


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21934931 - 07/12/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dont get all the amanita hype I personally am terrified of them. Thier closely related to a mushroom that literally gives me nightmares the amanita phalloides. Im not even joking it gives me nightmares because I hunt mushrooms and I have had dreams where I ID a cubensis and eat it only to find out its actually amanita phalloides. I can't see myslef eating a amanita muscaria because of the name. Amanita phalloides is a horrible way to die they're the kind of thing a mushroom hunter tells as a spooky campfire story.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21934937 - 07/12/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So in that sense I see it as kind of silly to compare them. Each is good in its own way. But so many people on this site seem to want to come and say psilocybin is so much better so I feel the need to respond and say no it isnt..




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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: PhlockingOutside]
    #21935033 - 07/12/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed amanitas from certain sites are a good experience while amanitas from other sites are a horrible experience. I have no clue why this is :shrug:


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: thewanderer25] * 1
    #21935048 - 07/12/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont get all the amanita hype I personally am terrified of them. Thier closely related to a mushroom that literally gives me nightmares the amanita phalloides. Im not even joking it gives me nightmares because I hunt mushrooms and I have had dreams where I ID a cubensis and eat it only to find out its actually amanita phalloides. I can't see myslef eating a amanita muscaria because of the name. Amanita phalloides is a horrible way to die they're the kind of thing a mushroom hunter tells as a spooky campfire story.



Aminita M., Amanita P, and P. Cubensis all pretty distinct looking species, I don't really think there's much chance of mistaking the three for one another.

Panthers and phalloides maybe, that could get you in some trouble..


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21935052 - 07/12/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've noticed amanitas from certain sites are a good experience while amanitas from other sites are a horrible experience. I have no clue why this is :shrug:



I've noticed old ones can be a little rough, I leave them be and pick the 'baby' ones..


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones> [Re: Amanita86]
    #21935082 - 07/12/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Amanita > cubensis


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Amanita86]
    #21935089 - 07/12/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've noticed amanitas from certain sites are a good experience while amanitas from other sites are a horrible experience. I have no clue why this is :shrug:



I've noticed old ones can be a little rough, I leave them be and pick the 'baby' ones..




Oh so the big caps are the unpleasant ones??? This would make perfect sense as the caps that I had the bad trips on were huge. The one weighed like 10g dry lol.


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    #21935093 - 07/12/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know man, I think they both have their time and place.  Variety is the spice..


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #21935107 - 07/12/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've noticed amanitas from certain sites are a good experience while amanitas from other sites are a horrible experience. I have no clue why this is :shrug:



I've noticed old ones can be a little rough, I leave them be and pick the 'baby' ones..




Oh so the big caps are the unpleasant ones??? This would make perfect sense as the caps that I had the bad trips on were huge. The one weighed like 10g dry lol.



That's what I've found, but I've noticed the same thing with cubes.  I don't have any science to back it up but I think the fresh little 'babies' are much easier on you..  it seems a lot of body load comes along with the older ones.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Amanita86]
    #21936052 - 07/13/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would advice precaution when working with them, be careful when preparing. From what i know both muscimol and ibotenic acid have damaging effects to the brain, causing lesions that can be detected. Also the active compounds are akin to deliriants?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: peyotillo]
    #21936080 - 07/13/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As long you don't provide a viable source you can gtfo. Also it's been stated over and over and over that you should convert the harmfull ibotonic acid into muscimol before ingestion.


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