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Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones
    #21930857 - 07/11/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i see why there are so many negative reports on aminitas. there are some that just cause bad trips. But when you get good ones, they are the most incredible entheogen in existence.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21930897 - 07/11/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you suggest hunting or ordering the good ones?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Weiliithinker] * 1
    #21930902 - 07/11/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what are good amanitas? Please be specific.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: tripologist] * 1
    #21930939 - 07/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The actives in ALL edible amanita muscaria  are the same. Muscimol and ibotenic acid and they both suck IMO. I'm sorry to say, but to each his own.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: tripologist]
    #21930989 - 07/11/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest hunting them.


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what are good amanitas? Please be specific.





Honestly couldn't tell you. All I know is I have tried aminitas from different sources and different locations and they have totally different effects. Some are amazing, some give a really crappy experience, which is why I think there are so many negative reports, that and people taking too much and not understanding the point of the experience.

All I can suggest is not to give up if you only experience bad trips. Keep trying with different aminitas (try ordering them if you cant find any good ones).


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21931677 - 07/12/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Deviate said:
I suggest hunting them.


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tripologist said:
what are good amanitas? Please be specific.





Honestly couldn't tell you. All I know is I have tried aminitas from different sources and different locations and they have totally different effects. Some are amazing, some give a really crappy experience, which is why I think there are so many negative reports, that and people taking too much and not understanding the point of the experience.

All I can suggest is not to give up if you only experience bad trips. Keep trying with different aminitas (try ordering them if you cant find any good ones).



I think this should tell you that they are very inconsistent.

I think most people would say psilocybin is better. I haven't tried amanitas but I have friends who have, and they liked psilocybin better.

Do you cook before you consume them?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: drr]
    #21932085 - 07/12/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, they can be very inconsistent. Also, I believe you must be a spiritual seeker to truly understand and appreciate amimita. Aminita allows you to rest into the presence of God.

Of course anyone who doesn't care about God is not going to appreciate that and many of those people will like psilocybin better because it gives you more of a party type experience. Not that psilos are a party drug for me, I find them deeply sacred as well. But lots and lots of people eat mushrooms for fun, rather than to heal themselves and get in touch with the Great Spirit.

But Aminita is so much better than psilocybin. Aminita is like tripping without tripping. You get the enthogenic effects, the spiritual effects and yet you dont have to deal with the strain that classical psychedelics put on your brain. You can do aminita whenever, every day even. Afte I trip on psilos I never want any more for a while. I feel tired and sensitve afterward. Psilos also make me more sensitive to whatever negative things I may be feelign, whereas aminita is a painkiller. Its just so much better of a drug for a guy like me who has already had a lot of classical psychedelic experiences and doesnt really need to keep stretching my consciouinsess outward in that way all the time anymore.

I will still take mescaline on occasion and I want to try LSA but other than that, I just dont need to keep repeating the psychedelic experience. Aminita on the other hand, helps me to enter a state of shamanic ecstasy but without stretching my awareness across the universe or making my brain exhausted. It keeps me grouded right here, only I feel filled with the Spirit.

What more could I ask from a drug?


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21932770 - 07/12/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sOunds intriguing.

I have some growing in my state, ive always been weary to experiment with them, not sure how to prepare them.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Deviate]
    #21932847 - 07/12/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i see why there are so many negative reports on aminitas. there are some that just cause bad trips. But when you get good ones, they are the most incredible entheogen in existence.




There is a guy who is somekind of shaman. He has based his life on hunting and ingesting amanitas. There is a video of him on Youtube eating a huge fresh amanita like a big mac. He holds seminars a workshops on the amanita and where to find it, identify it, prepare it. He is about 50 years old. Lately he has had to reduce his intake of his beloved mushroom because he is suffering from liver damage. Look him up. Maybe I am presenting him in a bad light.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21932858 - 07/12/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Here is the website of the fella I described above:
http://www.somashamans.com/


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21933027 - 07/12/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933321 - 07/12/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha





It was your experience for sure.
But you cannot state that a wordwide growing mushroom, known and used successfully for centuries, does not work just because you had an unpleseant experience or two.

:ohyou:  :justnotright:


More info please. How much did you take? How did you ingest it? Did you feel any unpleseant effects? If so, what have they been like? How long did it last? ..
All of this should be mentioned when making a statement like this.

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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933357 - 07/12/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is two actives in them and they blow lol muscimol and ibotanic acid they both produce zero effects.  The drugs in those mushrooms aren't pyschidelic. No matter where in the world you get them those will be the active ingredients. Those active ingredients just suck is all. Terrence McKenna would've told you guys the same thing if he were still alive.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy] * 1
    #21933461 - 07/12/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There is two actives in them and they blow lol muscimol and ibotanic acid they both produce zero effects. The drugs in those mushrooms aren't pyschidelic. No matter where in the world you get them those will be the active ingredients. Those active ingredients just suck is all. Terrence McKenna would've told you guys the same thing if he were still alive.




I'm interested in what you have to say, not what McKenna or anybody else does.. Are there some specific reasons for you beeing so impatient of Amanitas?

Muscimol is the active substance, ibotenic acid is pretty much the nausedating prodrug beeing decarboxylated in vivo or prior ingestion.

Saying muscimol isn't psychoactive is just wrong. It does not belong amongst classical psychedelics.. that's right.

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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933485 - 07/12/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never gotten ANY effect from them and I have tried them dried and I've had an extract made from fresh ones. They just don't compare to any other drug I've ever tried. I just really think that amanitas suck. Lol but to each his own and if you enjoy the effects from them than I'm happy for you. And I wish you safety.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933489 - 07/12/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)


If you  don't care what Terence McKenna has to say then you obviously haven't watched this yet


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933591 - 07/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol IME there aren't ANY positive effects from the two actives in amanita mushrooms Terrence McKenna agrees haha



Terrence McKenna can gtfo..  Who cares what he says?  He'll tell you himself he doesn't know shit.. Opinions, they aren't fact.:eek: :shocking:


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: Amanita86]
    #21933612 - 07/12/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol with that logic who cares what anyone says.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy]
    #21933614 - 07/12/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Opinions are better than nothing.


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Re: Man aminitas are so much better than psilos but you need to get the right ones [Re: impatientguy] * 2
    #21933627 - 07/12/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol with that logic who cares what anyone says.



Exactly, for instance if I were to listen to you I would have no idea what Amanita Muscaria's are capable of. :shrug2:


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