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My Theory on Entity Visitations
    #21930611 - 07/11/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In another thread, Bill orliely helped me make a thoery for why people have visitations from entities after a breakthru on DMT.

My theory is that when u smoke enough DMT, entities from other dimensions/realms "pick up" these signals, and come from their dimension and visit us in our mental dimension. The entities are always around us (but in higher dimensions) but when we smoke the DMt, they show themselves to us.

What do u guys think?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #21930679 - 07/11/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that's a possibility.


But as of now, I am sticking with my original theory that sparked your idea for this thread. If you don't mind I will repeat it

"Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.

Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.

So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self "


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930722 - 07/11/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
"So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self "




I like that. That surprisingly makes a lot sense


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21931175 - 07/11/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

aCtuaally, that makes a lot of sense too.

Dmt decodes our raw signal into its full-strenght version and gives us the "full picture" of whats inside our minds, the "spirits" of our minds if u will.

but i still think dMT can transport you to a different dimension.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21931222 - 07/11/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like both of these theories honestly. Keep expanding upon these theories so I have an interesting read?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21931527 - 07/11/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I remember closing my eyes and a female humanoid formed out of a vast changing mosaic. I don't really seem to get entity contact much or I'm missing it.
It looked like it was made of green organics and white light. It smiled and I lived through the evolution of all life to get where I was.
I can't even start to theorize on entities.

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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: trvptamine] * 2
    #21931579 - 07/12/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The idea that DMT allows you to contact actual extant entities telepathically is technically possible, but I find it highly improbable.

The idea that DMT or any drug allows you to perceive wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation that you normally can't is physically impossible.

My theory is that DMT drastically increases neural activity between the conscious and subconscious mind, decreasing latent inhibition and producing an effect called metacognition. This gives the user awareness of underlying neural processes that aren't normally accessible consciously.

The brain uses personality as a form of syntax to translate data into intelligence. When the amount of data made available by a DMT breakthrough is applied to your personality, the result is so complex that it seems like an alien intelligence, but in reality is your subconscious mind manifesting consciously.

A semantic counterpart to this phenomenon called ideasthesia can be achieved with high doses of LSD and certain other drugs. This gives the user access to memories and other input related data stored in the subconscious, connecting them into a relational network in the conscious mind.

Here's some links relevant to this topic:

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/8B_Geometry_-_Exposure_to_inner_mechanics_of_consciousness

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/8A_Geometry_-_Exposure_to_semantic_concept_network


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Starless]
    #21948963 - 07/15/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

those links though


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: trvptamine]
    #21948970 - 07/15/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21949002 - 07/15/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your theory is most likely wrong


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #21949013 - 07/15/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
Your theory is most likely wrong




Mine? If so, why?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Starless] * 1
    #21949023 - 07/15/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't reply to you. I agree with your opinion


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21949026 - 07/15/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A theory is a theory. Nothing wrong with exploring possibilities. I enjoy it. I have my own theories but I merely want to say this for now.

Has anyone had visions of circuit board imagery? I saw an entity that resembled a highly evolved being on another dimension that had circuit board imagery all over its body. We just stared at each other. I actually thought it was God.

Having said that, my brother's friend smoked the same batch, and wanted me to sit with him. He kept making arm motions like he was swimming, and when he came back he said that he saw "circuit board imagery"...like parts of the inside of a computer...

Wondering if anybody has seen this, and if anybody has a theory about this


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21949102 - 07/15/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Malcolm_Xtasy said:
I didn't reply to you. I agree with your opinion




My bad, forgot to check the Re:.

Before this conversation goes any further, I think is very important to establish the difference between the technical and colloquial definitions of the word theory.

As it is commonly used, theory simply means an idea or group of ideas that attempts to explain something. In scientific circles, this would be called a hypothesis.

As a technical term, theory means a hypothesis that makes testable predictions in an effort to explain something, and has had it's predictions proved correct with repeatable testing and peer review. Theory is the highest position of certainty that a scientific idea can achieve, so saying something like biological evolution or the big bang is 'just a theory' is equivalent to saying it is 'just a fact'.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21949354 - 07/15/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
that's a possibility.


But as of now, I am sticking with my original theory that sparked your idea for this thread. If you don't mind I will repeat it

"Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.

Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.

So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self "




I would say keep running with this.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: oomchu] * 1
    #21949603 - 07/15/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When we dream we encounter foriegn entities all the time, monsters, people we know, dead loved ones, composites, talking animals , complete strangers etc.

Theyre all characters we create but in our minds they are entirely seperate from us.

So our subconcious manfifesting into entities that feel entirely seperate from ourselves is a common occurence, but its pretty easy to accept it in a dream state. it doesnt seem too far fetched that on DMT this feels much more alien, since you arent dreaming, youre completly concious


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21949665 - 07/15/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Been reading rick strassman's books and some of those theories are cool.
Here are some articles you may find interesting.
Making Something From Nothing: Researchers Find That Matter Can Be Conjured from a Vacuum
Entanglement-Based Machine Learning on a Photonic Quantum Computer in principle and if scaled would show exponential speed up
Plants 'seen doing quantum physics'
One fractal quantifies another, mathematicians find
The shape of a perfect fire
Ants’ movements hide mathematical patterns

"Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff propose that consciousness emerges from biophysical processes acting at the subcullular level and involving cytoskeletal structures. In their model, consciousness is attributed to quantum computation in cytoskeletal proteins organized into a network of microtubeles within the brain's neurons. The cytoskeleton is dynamic "scaffolding," a network of tubes and filaments providing both structural support and the means of transportation of subcellular materials in the cell. While the cytoskeleton has traditionally been associated with purely structural functions, recent evidence has revealed that it is involved in signaling and information processing as well.

It is thought that quantum processes not only underlie all classical phenomena, but also that quantum laws can be applied to the macroscale events. This means the quantum principle does not dissipate in the macroworld. The universe replicates, or, as Matti Pitkanen says, "emulates," itself on every level and within the brain's structure as well. In a quantum holographic model, the action of the mind is not restricted to the brain, but instead extends to the whole cosmos: The mind breaks out of the skull."


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Starless]
    #21949699 - 07/15/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:Hey good to see some useful post on here.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: satch1234]
    #21949753 - 07/15/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There are many smokable tryptamines that will show you "entities" you think they are all taking you to other dimensions? No these are dimensions of yourself. Want to see entities?  Look at cloud formations, your brain will put entities in front of you, it is part of its functioning. I realise on a dmt breakthrough the entities seem unimaginable and otherworldly but thats how complex the brain is.

Your brain puts the green in the grass the blue in the sky and the emotions that follow. it is then understandable that mimicking neurochemistry with tweaked molecules that will fit the locks can completely show us a new world.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: satch1234]
    #21949783 - 07/15/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel if these entities are a part of ourselves it is no less, if not more amazing.

I mean for all we reallly know we ourselves arent just one being, we might be an ifinite number of beings coming together to make 1


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: mushpunx]
    #21949905 - 07/15/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I feel if these entities are a part of ourselves it is no less, if not more amazing.

I mean for all we reallly know we ourselves arent just one being, we might be an ifinite number of beings coming together to make 1




The solution to Zeno's paradox is neat.
A set of four paradoxes dealing with counterintuitive aspects of continuous space and time.

1. Dichotomy paradox: Before an object can travel a given distance d, it must travel a distance d/2. In order to travel d/2, it must travel d/4, etc. Since this sequence goes on forever, it therefore appears that the distance d cannot be traveled. The resolution of the paradox awaited calculus and the proof that infinite geometric series such as sum_(i=1)^(infty)(1/2)^i=1 can converge, so that the infinite number of "half-steps" needed is balanced by the increasingly short amount of time needed to traverse the distances.

2. Achilles and the tortoise paradox: A fleet-of-foot Achilles is unable to catch a plodding tortoise which has been given a head start, since during the time it takes Achilles to catch up to a given position, the tortoise has moved forward some distance. But this is obviously fallacious since Achilles will clearly pass the tortoise! The resolution is similar to that of the dichotomy paradox.

3. Arrow paradox: An arrow in flight has an instantaneous position at a given instant of time. At that instant, however, it is indistinguishable from a motionless arrow in the same position, so how is the motion of the arrow perceived?

4. Stade paradox: A paradox arising from the assumption that space and time can be divided only by a definite amount.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21950156 - 07/16/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have yet to do DMT but I have done salvia and communicated telepathically with these beings on almost all my mushrooms trips. I believe that since our brain are computers psychedelics allow our brains to run on a different software and experience a reality that is always there or possibly within us. Perhaps these beings are what keeps everything natural running. I keep getting visions of gears and machinery when I smoke salvia maybe these are the gears of what keeps reality together. I also have been getting those same gears and machinery through close eyed visuals on mushrooms.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21950656 - 07/16/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think it's really reliable to set Aristotlean "yes/no" logic any of these experiences.  I mean you can't really just say "NO, that didn't happen." whenever you see something that profound happen.  I mean it's like what more do you need to see? :lol: 

On the other hand to take these visions at face value can lead you into thinking some flat-out COOKY shit.  :shrug:  I'd say "Maybe" because how in the fuck would anybody ever KNOW anyway?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21950679 - 07/16/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what about the entities or energies you come in contact with on salvia? Sally Marie is pretty common with this trip.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21950701 - 07/16/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well really about ANY entities you experience on any chemical really. :shrug:  I mean people have talked about entity contact for just about as long as we've known about psychedelic compounds in the West.  Even further back than that if you really think about it.

I'd say it would be folly to simply dismiss all that because the current scientific paradigm has declared a War on spirituality in science.  (And rightly so as it's held our society back for so long)  On the other hand you have to think that fundamentalism of ANY kind seems to have a detrimental effect on science any way you look at it.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21950717 - 07/16/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

science is just observations. their are theories that suggests anything studied changes. called the observer affect or something. science is just a way of understand just like religion once was but is obviously outdated. the energy/entities experienced on these substances is/are what ever the observer say them to be. everything being subjective in all.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: oomchu]
    #21963718 - 07/19/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

oomchu said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
that's a possibility.


But as of now, I am sticking with my original theory that sparked your idea for this thread. If you don't mind I will repeat it

"Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.

Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.

So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self "




I would say keep running with this.






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Something there is mysteriously formed,
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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21966465 - 07/19/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Could you elaborate on the 'signals'?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Krazent]
    #21967056 - 07/19/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
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If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21967903 - 07/19/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious




Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21968284 - 07/20/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious





I don't but this at all.

Miine as well as others seem to be almost sync'ed to what you are hearing, at least as far as LSD and Psilocybin go.  Go into a dark room and play different types of music, synesthesia.  It is noted so well in scientific research as well.

I loved how you just ripped off what I said about your brain making other versions of you, bravo.  Might as well just link them the thread where I call out all this other dimensional bs out..  Unless you are talking about going inside your brain, it's too far out for me to go now.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21968294 - 07/20/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Once you understand what Sam is communicating, you can then extrapolate that those thoughts have to be being made from somewhere for us to select from.

Those process that are making the pre-selected thoughts are actually simulations that our brain runs to figure out all possible future outcomes, then gives us the pre-selection.

It is these simulations that we get lost in during the DMT flash.. It is where you can meet god or anything your mind wants to create..

These simulations ALWAYS have a purpose, so of course so do our experiences..


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Starless]
    #21969491 - 07/20/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious




Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?





Maybe not the hallucinations themselves, but maybe the memes that create them exist. Like what if thought is all around us, and when we take psychs, that thought gets sharper until the thought morphs into the hallucinations.

im not saying that the hallucinations are all around us, but the thing in which helps create the hallucination, or the thing in which hallucinations piggy-back off of, exists.

Think of it like, shooting out of our heads constantly are clothes-lines. When we each mushrooms, clothes hang off the lines, and we view them as hallucinations. When the mushrooms wear off, just the clothes-lines are there.

kind of like how we have receptors that are dormant in our heads. then when we use psychs, they "come alive" or "get filled" or whatever.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21976436 - 07/21/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Been reading rick strassman's books and some of those theories are cool.
Here are some articles you may find interesting.
Making Something From Nothing: Researchers Find That Matter Can Be Conjured from a Vacuum
Entanglement-Based Machine Learning on a Photonic Quantum Computer in principle and if scaled would show exponential speed up
Plants 'seen doing quantum physics'
One fractal quantifies another, mathematicians find
The shape of a perfect fire
Ants’ movements hide mathematical patterns

"Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff propose that consciousness emerges from biophysical processes acting at the subcullular level and involving cytoskeletal structures. In their model, consciousness is attributed to quantum computation in cytoskeletal proteins organized into a network of microtubeles within the brain's neurons. The cytoskeleton is dynamic "scaffolding," a network of tubes and filaments providing both structural support and the means of transportation of subcellular materials in the cell. While the cytoskeleton has traditionally been associated with purely structural functions, recent evidence has revealed that it is involved in signaling and information processing as well.

It is thought that quantum processes not only underlie all classical phenomena, but also that quantum laws can be applied to the macroscale events. This means the quantum principle does not dissipate in the macroworld. The universe replicates, or, as Matti Pitkanen says, "emulates," itself on every level and within the brain's structure as well. In a quantum holographic model, the action of the mind is not restricted to the brain, but instead extends to the whole cosmos: The mind breaks out of the skull."






Great post, and links. This will be good perspective reading to help me process the 4 DMT trips and mushroom trip I did this weekend, so much love...


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21976457 - 07/21/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's actually a movie called 'The Banshee Chapter' which takes a horror twist on this idea. I believe they were actually inspired by a Lovecraft story and more or less just changed a machine into dmt for the movie.
Might be worth watching, not that's it's got any real 'value' other than entertainment. Then again, might not be a good idea to watch a horror on the subject if those are your beliefs, heh.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21976893 - 07/21/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man you are seeing the personification of archetypes and their many different forms and motifs... Search there and you will find more answers down the rabbit hole you go..


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21976985 - 07/21/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious




Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?





Maybe not the hallucinations themselves, but maybe the memes that create them exist. Like what if thought is all around us, and when we take psychs, that thought gets sharper until the thought morphs into the hallucinations.

im not saying that the hallucinations are all around us, but the thing in which helps create the hallucination, or the thing in which hallucinations piggy-back off of, exists.

Think of it like, shooting out of our heads constantly are clothes-lines. When we each mushrooms, clothes hang off the lines, and we view them as hallucinations. When the mushrooms wear off, just the clothes-lines are there.

kind of like how we have receptors that are dormant in our heads. then when we use psychs, they "come alive" or "get filled" or whatever.




Then why don't we all see the same thing?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #22078760 - 08/11/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just found this video on entities. Pretty much the same stuff but it's nice to see people talking about it:awesomenod:
David Luke - Discarnate Entities in the DMT Realm


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22079095 - 08/11/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Or maybe you're...hallucinating:wtfsonic:


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    #22079395 - 08/11/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Or maybe you're...hallucinating:wtfsonic:




Yes I agree it is a hallucination
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    We suffer from a hallucination, from a false and distorted sensation of our own existence as living organisms. Most of us have the sensation that “I myself” is a separate center of feeling and action, living inside and bounded by the physical body — a center which “confronts” an “external” world of people and things, making contact through the senses with a universe both alien and strange. Everyday figures of speech reflect this illusion. “I came into this world.” “You must face reality.” “The conquest of nature.”

    This feeling of being lonely and very temporary visitors in the universe is in flat contradiction to everything known about man (and all other living organisms) in the sciences. We do not “come into” this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean “waves,” the universe “peoples.” Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated “egos” inside bags of skin.

The hallucination of separateness prevents one from seeing that to cherish the ego is to cherish misery. We do not realize that our so-called love and concern for the individual is simply the other face of our own fear of death or rejection. In his exaggerated valuation of separate identity, the personal ego is sawing off the branch on which he is sitting, and then getting more and more anxious about the coming crash!

Once you have seen this you can return to the world of practical affairs with a new spirit. You have seen that the universe is at root a magical illusion and a fabulous game, and that there is no separate “you” to get something out of it, as if life were a bank to be robbed. The only real “you” is the one that comes and goes, manifests and withdraws itself eternally in and as every conscious being. For “you” is the universe looking at itself from billions of points of view, points that come and go so that the vision is forever new.

You do not ask what is the value, or what is the use, of this feeling. Of what use is the universe? What is the practical application of a million galaxies?




Maybe just maybe...


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22079834 - 08/12/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My understanding is that DMT is an Entity - also called "God". Entheogens are the essence of consciousness. When you ingest more consciousness, you become more and more aware of the molecules of consciousness that are in your body. The body produces DMT, 5MeO-DMT and others, so you would become more aware of those. You could also become aware of the molecules of negativity that the body produces or that are ingested such as cocaine, d.a.m. (heroin), etc. I have heard people say that these negative molecules are also entities.


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: endogenous]
    #22080386 - 08/12/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Strassman talked about this in the spirit molecule describing sober reality as 'chanel normal' and the DMT realm another channel.

It's as impossible to dismiss these things from a sober perspective as it is to confirm them as real while in hyperspace or tripping out of your mind. Sober you have no real conception of the magnitude and mind boggling complexity of the visions you encountered, and have so little grasp on such an ineffable experience, that I think to dismiss it in hindsight is rather arrogant and implies that one has a far greater understanding of the experience than he possibly could have.

On the other hand being twisted to such a ferocious degree while in hyperspace makes one doubt himself as a credible witness after the experience has ended. Doubts begin to set in until you end up convincing yourself it was all just delusion brought on by a drug.

Spirits and entities that cannot be touched and cannot have any physical interaction with the world are by definition 'unreal' anyway.

They can never be verfied as real because they are not real in the sense of what we understand to be real, all that is left is the experience itself.

You cant feel, or touch, hurt, or be hurt physically by these creatures, but does that eliminate altogether the possibility of entities existing in the universe that are non physical?

I dont think it matters either way. What I find interesting about DMT is that some take comfort in it being real and others take comfort in it not!


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22081079 - 08/12/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, here I go.  What if consciousness itself is a signal and our brains are the receivers?  What if existence itself is an experiment by our self to subjectively experience existence as an individual?  What if our physical selves were created as receivers for everything that can be received in the third dimension only, which is limited by time being spread out?  What if our physical being filters out what doesn't make sense to an occupied, thinking mind?  If we are too busy "doing," we can't be "being."  What if, when we take shrooms or acid or DMT it just tears down that filter so we can communicate with ourself?


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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Artex]
    #22083781 - 08/12/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So, here I go.  What if consciousness itself is a signal and our brains are the receivers?  What if existence itself is an experiment by our self to subjectively experience existence as an individual?  What if our physical selves were created as receivers for everything that can be received in the third dimension only, which is limited by time being spread out?  What if our physical being filters out what doesn't make sense to an occupied, thinking mind?  If we are too busy "doing," we can't be "being."  What if, when we take shrooms or acid or DMT it just tears down that filter so we can communicate with ourself?




What if there is no separation between them and consciousness is ingrained into reality like gravity?
What if you are a lost in the reflection of yourself?
This idea is actually pretty old and one of my favorites.

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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22084231 - 08/13/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know someone who was smoking DET in a hookah with a group of friends. They were in the habit of smoking Marijuana in the hookah and had a habit of passing the stem around and around with everyone trying to ingest as much as possible. They sort of continued to do this when the DET was put into the hookah. At one point, this person became so Conscious, that he saw the DET smoke going into himself as he smoked Them and he saw that the DET was a Being. He was astonished. He said that he thought They looked like an alien -- but not like a humanoid one -- more like a kind of smoke Genie -- and that They gave off a feeling of power.

He said he thought "what have I taken into myself?"


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