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Eggtimer
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: mushpunx]
#21949905 - 07/15/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: I feel if these entities are a part of ourselves it is no less, if not more amazing.
I mean for all we reallly know we ourselves arent just one being, we might be an ifinite number of beings coming together to make 1
The solution to Zeno's paradox is neat. A set of four paradoxes dealing with counterintuitive aspects of continuous space and time.
1. Dichotomy paradox: Before an object can travel a given distance d, it must travel a distance d/2. In order to travel d/2, it must travel d/4, etc. Since this sequence goes on forever, it therefore appears that the distance d cannot be traveled. The resolution of the paradox awaited calculus and the proof that infinite geometric series such as sum_(i=1)^(infty)(1/2)^i=1 can converge, so that the infinite number of "half-steps" needed is balanced by the increasingly short amount of time needed to traverse the distances.
2. Achilles and the tortoise paradox: A fleet-of-foot Achilles is unable to catch a plodding tortoise which has been given a head start, since during the time it takes Achilles to catch up to a given position, the tortoise has moved forward some distance. But this is obviously fallacious since Achilles will clearly pass the tortoise! The resolution is similar to that of the dichotomy paradox.
3. Arrow paradox: An arrow in flight has an instantaneous position at a given instant of time. At that instant, however, it is indistinguishable from a motionless arrow in the same position, so how is the motion of the arrow perceived?
4. Stade paradox: A paradox arising from the assumption that space and time can be divided only by a definite amount.
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
#21950156 - 07/16/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have yet to do DMT but I have done salvia and communicated telepathically with these beings on almost all my mushrooms trips. I believe that since our brain are computers psychedelics allow our brains to run on a different software and experience a reality that is always there or possibly within us. Perhaps these beings are what keeps everything natural running. I keep getting visions of gears and machinery when I smoke salvia maybe these are the gears of what keeps reality together. I also have been getting those same gears and machinery through close eyed visuals on mushrooms.
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I don't think it's really reliable to set Aristotlean "yes/no" logic any of these experiences. I mean you can't really just say "NO, that didn't happen." whenever you see something that profound happen. I mean it's like what more do you need to see?
On the other hand to take these visions at face value can lead you into thinking some flat-out COOKY shit. I'd say "Maybe" because how in the fuck would anybody ever KNOW anyway?
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what about the entities or energies you come in contact with on salvia? Sally Marie is pretty common with this trip.
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Well really about ANY entities you experience on any chemical really. I mean people have talked about entity contact for just about as long as we've known about psychedelic compounds in the West. Even further back than that if you really think about it.
I'd say it would be folly to simply dismiss all that because the current scientific paradigm has declared a War on spirituality in science. (And rightly so as it's held our society back for so long) On the other hand you have to think that fundamentalism of ANY kind seems to have a detrimental effect on science any way you look at it.
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science is just observations. their are theories that suggests anything studied changes. called the observer affect or something. science is just a way of understand just like religion once was but is obviously outdated. the energy/entities experienced on these substances is/are what ever the observer say them to be. everything being subjective in all.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: oomchu]
#21963718 - 07/19/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: that's a possibility.
But as of now, I am sticking with my original theory that sparked your idea for this thread. If you don't mind I will repeat it
"Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.
Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.
So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self "
I would say keep running with this.
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21966465 - 07/19/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could you elaborate on the 'signals'?
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Krazent]
#21967056 - 07/19/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21967903 - 07/19/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious
Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21968284 - 07/20/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious
I don't but this at all.
Miine as well as others seem to be almost sync'ed to what you are hearing, at least as far as LSD and Psilocybin go. Go into a dark room and play different types of music, synesthesia. It is noted so well in scientific research as well.
I loved how you just ripped off what I said about your brain making other versions of you, bravo. Might as well just link them the thread where I call out all this other dimensional bs out.. Unless you are talking about going inside your brain, it's too far out for me to go now.
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: MikeBearPig]
#21968294 - 07/20/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Once you understand what Sam is communicating, you can then extrapolate that those thoughts have to be being made from somewhere for us to select from.
Those process that are making the pre-selected thoughts are actually simulations that our brain runs to figure out all possible future outcomes, then gives us the pre-selection.
It is these simulations that we get lost in during the DMT flash.. It is where you can meet god or anything your mind wants to create..
These simulations ALWAYS have a purpose, so of course so do our experiences..
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Starless]
#21969491 - 07/20/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious
Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?
Maybe not the hallucinations themselves, but maybe the memes that create them exist. Like what if thought is all around us, and when we take psychs, that thought gets sharper until the thought morphs into the hallucinations.
im not saying that the hallucinations are all around us, but the thing in which helps create the hallucination, or the thing in which hallucinations piggy-back off of, exists.
Think of it like, shooting out of our heads constantly are clothes-lines. When we each mushrooms, clothes hang off the lines, and we view them as hallucinations. When the mushrooms wear off, just the clothes-lines are there.
kind of like how we have receptors that are dormant in our heads. then when we use psychs, they "come alive" or "get filled" or whatever.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
#21976436 - 07/21/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eggtimer said: Been reading rick strassman's books and some of those theories are cool. Here are some articles you may find interesting. Making Something From Nothing: Researchers Find That Matter Can Be Conjured from a Vacuum Entanglement-Based Machine Learning on a Photonic Quantum Computer in principle and if scaled would show exponential speed up Plants 'seen doing quantum physics' One fractal quantifies another, mathematicians find The shape of a perfect fire Ants’ movements hide mathematical patterns
"Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff propose that consciousness emerges from biophysical processes acting at the subcullular level and involving cytoskeletal structures. In their model, consciousness is attributed to quantum computation in cytoskeletal proteins organized into a network of microtubeles within the brain's neurons. The cytoskeleton is dynamic "scaffolding," a network of tubes and filaments providing both structural support and the means of transportation of subcellular materials in the cell. While the cytoskeleton has traditionally been associated with purely structural functions, recent evidence has revealed that it is involved in signaling and information processing as well.
It is thought that quantum processes not only underlie all classical phenomena, but also that quantum laws can be applied to the macroscale events. This means the quantum principle does not dissipate in the macroworld. The universe replicates, or, as Matti Pitkanen says, "emulates," itself on every level and within the brain's structure as well. In a quantum holographic model, the action of the mind is not restricted to the brain, but instead extends to the whole cosmos: The mind breaks out of the skull."
Great post, and links. This will be good perspective reading to help me process the 4 DMT trips and mushroom trip I did this weekend, so much love...
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There's actually a movie called 'The Banshee Chapter' which takes a horror twist on this idea. I believe they were actually inspired by a Lovecraft story and more or less just changed a machine into dmt for the movie. Might be worth watching, not that's it's got any real 'value' other than entertainment. Then again, might not be a good idea to watch a horror on the subject if those are your beliefs, heh.
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Hey man you are seeing the personification of archetypes and their many different forms and motifs... Search there and you will find more answers down the rabbit hole you go..
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21976985 - 07/21/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Fractals or whatever hallucinations in the air. Those represent a TVs signals. When we use psychs, our signals(fractals and thangz) become clear and visible. But when we use DMT and get really high, those signals/fractals become so detailed and visible that it turns into an entity, which is a whole signal being transmitted coming from the subconscious
Are you saying that psychedelic hallucinations actually exist in reality and we just can't see them normally? That's a rather bold claim. Do you have any evidence to support this?
Maybe not the hallucinations themselves, but maybe the memes that create them exist. Like what if thought is all around us, and when we take psychs, that thought gets sharper until the thought morphs into the hallucinations.
im not saying that the hallucinations are all around us, but the thing in which helps create the hallucination, or the thing in which hallucinations piggy-back off of, exists.
Think of it like, shooting out of our heads constantly are clothes-lines. When we each mushrooms, clothes hang off the lines, and we view them as hallucinations. When the mushrooms wear off, just the clothes-lines are there.
kind of like how we have receptors that are dormant in our heads. then when we use psychs, they "come alive" or "get filled" or whatever.
Then why don't we all see the same thing?
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#22078760 - 08/11/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just found this video on entities. Pretty much the same stuff but it's nice to see people talking about it David Luke - Discarnate Entities in the DMT Realm
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: Eggtimer]
#22079095 - 08/11/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or maybe you're...hallucinating
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Re: My Theory on Entity Visitations [Re: King Klick] 1
#22079395 - 08/11/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Or maybe you're...hallucinating
Yes I agree it is a hallucination
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We suffer from a hallucination, from a false and distorted sensation of our own existence as living organisms. Most of us have the sensation that “I myself” is a separate center of feeling and action, living inside and bounded by the physical body — a center which “confronts” an “external” world of people and things, making contact through the senses with a universe both alien and strange. Everyday figures of speech reflect this illusion. “I came into this world.” “You must face reality.” “The conquest of nature.”
This feeling of being lonely and very temporary visitors in the universe is in flat contradiction to everything known about man (and all other living organisms) in the sciences. We do not “come into” this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean “waves,” the universe “peoples.” Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated “egos” inside bags of skin.
The hallucination of separateness prevents one from seeing that to cherish the ego is to cherish misery. We do not realize that our so-called love and concern for the individual is simply the other face of our own fear of death or rejection. In his exaggerated valuation of separate identity, the personal ego is sawing off the branch on which he is sitting, and then getting more and more anxious about the coming crash!
Once you have seen this you can return to the world of practical affairs with a new spirit. You have seen that the universe is at root a magical illusion and a fabulous game, and that there is no separate “you” to get something out of it, as if life were a bank to be robbed. The only real “you” is the one that comes and goes, manifests and withdraws itself eternally in and as every conscious being. For “you” is the universe looking at itself from billions of points of view, points that come and go so that the vision is forever new.
You do not ask what is the value, or what is the use, of this feeling. Of what use is the universe? What is the practical application of a million galaxies?
Maybe just maybe...
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