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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21931526 - 07/11/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
sins of the father is loaded language.

you're not guilty for what our father's did, but i don't think that addresses what our father's actually did nor the effect's of what they did.




Well, so what should I do to resolve the sins of my/our father?

I don't see anyone suggesting how to solve the problem, people getting caught up on wither or not it was racist for four black men to assault and kill an un-armed white man.

If this was four white men, assaulting and killing a black man, it'd instantly become race motivated.

I've never owned any slaves, nor did my ancestors as I know, am I still guilty?

Should I just give all my money to minorities on the streets to free myself of the guilt?


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21931546 - 07/12/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm still waiting for a comparable example of a story making national news about a black guy getting beat up by a mob of white people who aren't cops. It happens all the time but it doesn't make national news.




maybe it cant be shown because it far less frequent than blacks attacking whites


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21931573 - 07/12/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

somehow i don't think that's the reason.

shit, i've been a victim of shit like this. back in middle school i was jumped by a mob of black kids. one came up from behind, knocked me on the ground by the back of my head, and a whole bunch of others jumped in and kicked the shit out of me.


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #21931578 - 07/12/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What gives you the right to make that the litmus test for whether this thread is justified?




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:facepalm: You cannot possibly be this dense. I'm not going to waste any further time with you.

The answer to your question is no with an addendum: it's 100% irrelevant in what nature the force was used beyond justified or not. Cops using the force or civilians using it, does not alter my point or the point of the thread in the slightest.




what's hilarious is that poster, who finds this thread so horrifyingly unjustifiable...yet I'd be willing to bet that it has more posts than anybody in the entire thread

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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: 404]
    #21931604 - 07/12/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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somehow i don't think that's the reason.

shit, i've been a victim of shit like this. back in middle school i was jumped by a mob of black kids. one came up from behind, knocked me on the ground by the back of my head, and a whole bunch of others jumped in and kicked the shit out of me.





I've had the same thing happen and I've jumped on a bunch of black kids but these
still fit the bill of "black outnumbering whites" in a fight and while I'm sure
the gand of whites jumping a black man does happen the only time we hear about it
is when it's the police and the black man tends to have committed some criminal
act and proceded to be stupid during the arrest

maybe we dont see the whites on on a lone black is because it occurs far less often


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #21931611 - 07/12/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
What gives you the right to make that the litmus test for whether this thread is justified?




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Shroomslip said:
:facepalm: You cannot possibly be this dense. I'm not going to waste any further time with you.

The answer to your question is no with an addendum: it's 100% irrelevant in what nature the force was used beyond justified or not. Cops using the force or civilians using it, does not alter my point or the point of the thread in the slightest.




what's hilarious is that poster, who finds this thread so horrifyingly unjustifiable...yet I'd be willing to bet that it has more posts than anybody in the entire thread

:lolsy:



Yes, they do, they have 24, which is 7 more than the next person on the list.


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: PLURAL] * 1
    #21931626 - 07/12/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes, they do, they have 24, which is 7 more than the next person on the list.




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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: TNK]
    #21931646 - 07/12/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
sins of the father is loaded language.

you're not guilty for what our father's did, but i don't think that addresses what our father's actually did nor the effect's of what they did.




Well, so what should I do to resolve the sins of my/our father?
Should I just give all my money to minorities on the streets to free myself of the guilt?






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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21931647 - 07/12/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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D.M.T said:
Correct.

We had a similar event right after, except it was just one white guy beating up a black guy he probably knew, and he received hate crime charges.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/cincinnati-man-charged-with-ethnic-intimidation




So I thought that they had ultimately (after going back & forth) ended up charging 4 in the mob beating with hate crime charges? Was it changed again?


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Niffla]
    #21931812 - 07/12/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Black on white crime is usually about money, where as the good ole boys cruising around in a pickup with bats looking for blacks is never about money. 
Anyway a whole city can burn down but one white guy gets a can to the head and everyone loses their shit. It's over reported.


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21932150 - 07/12/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Look how many homies it took to take him down, he was one tough muthafucka.

Respect.



He never fought back the whole time either. They took his cell phone and destroyed it.

Cincinnati has been flip flopping on whether they want to prosecute it as a hate crime. The woman who wrote the police report called it a hate crime, the next day they said they wouldn't prosecute it as one, then Chief Jeffrey Blackwell told them to reconsider, and they're now officially ruling it a robbery.

The media failed Cincinnati on this one, particularly WLWT. Originally WLWT reported it as a fight breaking out and made no mention to the man. Actually the police responding to this guy being jumped is what started the mini-riot of young males, most if not all black, throwing fireworks at police officers and assaulting them.

A few people were tazed and a few were arrested for punching police officers.






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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #21932669 - 07/12/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Black on white crime is usually about money, where as the good ole boys cruising around in a pickup with bats looking for blacks is never about money. 
Anyway a whole city can burn down but one white guy gets a can to the head and everyone loses their shit. It's over reported.




It wasn't a can that put him down, it was a chunk of concrete.  You ever see the close up video of him trying to snore through his blood?  I give him credit where it's due I suppose..  but I would have ran those boys down with that truck and used each bullet I had at my disposal with precision.  It'd be time to teach those boys what happens when you use a gun that doesnt jam...  That's not 'big talk'.... first line of defense is your car/truck.  That shit pisses me off.

Has nobody ever hung out downtown and gotten in fights?  You can take it to the bank the 'coloreds' always fight in numbers, and they always sneak you with a cheap shot.  If you can keep them in front of you you're pretty good to go, but there's always one behind you....

Shit I wish I could tell some of my stories here.. this threads pissing me off and BS is a [snip].... I can't remember what's allowed here and what's not in the pub, n/m..


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Amanita86]
    #21932736 - 07/12/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading through this thread guys. Good stuff


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21932757 - 07/12/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol you're late as fuck, where've you been?!


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: 404]
    #21932772 - 07/12/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha I was stuck out in the middle of nowhere last night with spotty phone coverage so I really couldn't take the time to post well thought out responses on my phone


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21932789 - 07/12/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading through this thread guys. Good stuff



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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: TNK] * 1
    #21933177 - 07/12/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
sins of the father is loaded language.

you're not guilty for what our father's did, but i don't think that addresses what our father's actually did nor the effect's of what they did.




Well, so what should I do to resolve the sins of my/our father?

I don't see anyone suggesting how to solve the problem, people getting caught up on wither or not it was racist for four black men to assault and kill an un-armed white man.

If this was four white men, assaulting and killing a black man, it'd instantly become race motivated.

I've never owned any slaves, nor did my ancestors as I know, am I still guilty?

Should I just give all my money to minorities on the streets to free myself of the guilt?



you can't resolve it, unless you get on the level of those who are angered by it, and sadly that isn't going to happen solely because of racially motivated attacks, such as in the OP, or at least, i wouldn't tell you to risk such a thing. i literally think there is no real way to resolve the issues of the past, unless you're gonna explain to someone who feels they are effected that it's over, and that nobody alive today has any of the animosity towards blacks that they did in those days. we may still have people who don't like black or white, or whomever, but it simply can't be because of past morality. it's a different sort of conditioning now that causes this animosity towards the two races.

though this doesn't exactly solve the overall problem of racially motivated street violence nor the whole issue of whether or not the past plays a role; not in ideology but in historical/economical shifts, which i think it does; which of course doesn't justify any of it, there are alot of people of many race's struggling whom don't commit violence and get by well enough. but i'm just saying, i think that's why there is this violence...and that isn't going to just go away, so it kinda is almost pointless to try to escape. as many people have pointed out before, and it is rational; sometimes you just...stay away from certain groups and especially in certain areas, and say fuck it i can't risk going there into that group, because SHIT WILL go down.

sad truth of the situation is, alot of people need to clean up their act and stop treating their destitution like it's everyone else's fault.


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21933598 - 07/12/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Find a story where the colors are switched out and show it to me.





you've gotta be the worst poster on this message board


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Salomon]
    #21933619 - 07/12/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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well start gathering people with tshirts and candles and signs in protest of blackey's hate and oppression of the white man.

i bet it wouldn't turn into a roit.



Dude, think of the type of people that would show up to that! That would be entertainment!


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Re: Why is there not an uproar over this? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21933687 - 07/12/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A mob of white people beating up a black dude? yeah that's never happened in the entirety of history.




To justify this thread, OP would have to provide a story involving a gang of black cops beating up a white dude, or a black guy going into an all-white church to shoot up a bunch of unarmed, praying white congregants shouting about how he hates white people.

Instead he gives us this childish schoolyard horseshit.

Double standards, indeed.




How about all the little kids that get shot while hanging on their porches cause a bunch of bangers decided that someone looked at them funny? Happens all the time, but I guess that doesn't count as a massacre, huh?

Luckily there were no fatalities in the example I'm posting below. These incidents all the time though, and unfortunately the ending isn't always like this.

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WEST PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- Police have identified the two suspects wanted in a shooting at a West Philadelphia block party that injured 11 people, including children.

The suspects are 23-year-old Dominic Lamar and 23-year-old Khaleif Harley.

The shooting happened shortly before 10:00 p.m. Saturday, June 20th in the 4100 block of Ogden Street where a group of people were gathered for a block party.


Neighbors were cleaning up when police say the two men opened fired from down the block.

Detectives believe the shooting stemmed from a fight a week ago and that the shooter and an accomplice waited until it was dark to retaliate.

"They arrived at the corner of 41st and Ogden, they fired the first shot from intersection they then come about 10 yards east and fired a second shot," said Lt. Johnnie Walker, Philadelphia Police.

Pellets sprayed the crowd of about 50 people, injuring 11 of them.

Seven adults, ranging in age from 22 to 59, were hit along with a 18-month-old girl, and two boys, ages 11 and 12.

Both suspects fled on foot.

All of the injured were taken to local hospitals.

By Sunday, eight of the victims, including the three children, were released from the hospital.

The shotgun pellets used in the shooting are meant to be used by hunters.

"The bird shot has 9 to 11 pellets inside the cartridge. The dangerous thing with that is that it spreads and that's why we had so many victims here," said Lt. Walker.

On Sunday afternoon, many of the victims returned to the neighborhood where marked patrol cars were spotted in the area of the shooting.

Police are urging witnesses to call them with information, reminding people how close of a call this was for the youngest victim.

"Thank God it hits her in the neck and takes a graze off her neck - that pellet as small as it was could have killed that child because of a fight," said Lt. Walker.

Neighbors say there have been multiple shootings in the area recently. Police do not believe they are related.

Investigators say it's unclear if the intended target was among those hit.

Anyone with information on Lamar or Harvey's whereabouts is urged to contact Philadelphia Police at 215-686-TIPS (8477), text a tip to PPD TIP (7738847) or online at www.phillypolice.com. All tips will be confidential.




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