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recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS
#21929978 - 07/11/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read em and weap, morons. You have a terrorist government.
The USA and its allies planned to help ISIS rise to power because they wanted them to attack Syria.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Shins]
#21930935 - 07/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course, how else do we assert our agenda without a malleable enemy?
Terrorists are whoever and wherever we declare them to be, and if we can use them for our benefit, all the better.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21931396 - 07/11/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This comes as no surprise, listen to obamas speeches, he obviously supports terrorism, but, he also gives us free stuff, so there's that...
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: hostileuniverse]
#21931493 - 07/11/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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this comes as no surprise, because this is our go to strategy. it has been since WW2. its that whole enemy of my enemy thing. it's been a proven loser as far strats go, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: ballsalsa]
#21932470 - 07/12/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Familiarize yourself with the declassified predecessors and you'll have a good idea of how things operate today. It isn't really news to anyone with a brain, but these two documentaries give you a pretty in depth look.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Shins]
#21932689 - 07/12/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is old news. Obumble also supported al Qaida, gave them money, weapons, and loads of non lethal equipment like trucks, radios, etc. The jackass was fighting them in one country and a few miles away, supporting them. It makes usa look like an insane clown to the world which doesn't realize we do not support this crap. They are told we are a democracy that serves the will of the people. HA!, that has not been the case for decades if ever. The majority has been against this crap from the beginning.
Vote third party when the usual hacks get the nomination.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Stonehenge]
#21932693 - 07/12/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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^^ if you think it's the president or party politics that causes things like this you don't understand the problem at all.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21934265 - 07/12/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: ^^ if you think it's the president or party politics that causes things like this you don't understand the problem at all.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: ballsalsa]
#21934283 - 07/12/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They have the power to stop it, if people woukd elect a party that would.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Shins]
#21934297 - 07/12/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shins said: They have the power to stop it, if people woukd elect a party that would.
possibly true, but with no way to bind future politicians to the deal
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: BlackWidow]
#21940825 - 07/14/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's too bad.
They're documentaries about Operation Gladio.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21950280 - 07/16/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure I was already aware of America supporting Syrian Rebels to overthrow the Assad regime, but these same rebels then went on to become ISIS and cause further problems. I think the same thing happened with the mujahideen in the Russian conflict, america trained and supported mujahideen troops to fight the Russians and they later ended up fighting america. It's a familiar story. I'm pretty sure that there would be further examples given how involved america seems to be in supporting or opposing regimes and conflicts around the globe.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Soulidarity]
#21951066 - 07/16/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: I'm pretty sure I was already aware of America supporting Syrian Rebels to overthrow the Assad regime, but these same rebels then went on to become ISIS and cause further problems. I think the same thing happened with the mujahideen in the Russian conflict, america trained and supported mujahideen troops to fight the Russians and they later ended up fighting america. It's a familiar story. I'm pretty sure that there would be further examples given how involved america seems to be in supporting or opposing regimes and conflicts around the globe.
Or the Khmer Rouge. Or the Ayatollah. Or Saharto. Or a hundred other fascists we put into power.
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Re: recently de-classified documents from 2012 show the USA planned to support and encourage ISIS [Re: Shins]
#22053617 - 08/06/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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We need to make our governments sign a contract banning them from having any financial benefit from getting involved in Syria. E.g Syria shall not end up with a Rothschild bank if our military intervene , Israel shall not expand into Syria. Our government shall be prohibited from oil and gas deals in the nation and above all prohibit them from building a pipeline to Europe. They pretend they have a humanitarian motive;to continue with that alleged motive they will have to sign to keep up appearances, and simultaneously their true illicit motive is removed.
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