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When to harvest P. Somniferum?
    #21927865 - 07/11/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have a stealth grow of P. Somniferum that I can not cut in,
so I need to harvest the hole plants but don´t now if they are ready.

I have Pict one to post a pic here, please look and tell me if the are ready or
if they need additional time :smile:




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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul]
    #21927884 - 07/11/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those look very different from the opium poppy's i'm growing atm. Are you sure they are p. Somniferum?

I would pick between a week and two weeks after the petals fall.


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: forrest]
    #21927945 - 07/11/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The leaves look right to me :justdontknow: I think thats a pretty defining trait in the type of poppy. Oriental and california poppies dont have those wide prickly looking leaves. Not sure on if they are ready to harvest though.


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21928820 - 07/11/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am quiet sure that it is P. Soneferium, but here are some more pictures:



Problem is that all the plants are at different states of development,
so it is not possible to tell how long it is since a pod lost it´s petals,
I must go by looks......


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul] * 1
    #21928984 - 07/11/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's a pretty puny Psom if it is. Won't produce much o. According to Jim hogshire, after the petals fall off and the stigma points upward and the pod develops a chalky look to it, you can harvest. If you decide to scar (which I recommend), do it in the morning and I'm the cold. I know you want to harvest after cutting but IME you should leave the pods attached to the plant so that the vascular system can push out as much resin as possible. Read opium for the masses. Good starter info.


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Pseudo-Tim]
    #21931961 - 07/12/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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. Read opium for the masses. Good starter info.



Good starter info sounds great, but I think that opium for the masses is not much info at all :confused:

If that was not the thread you had in mind, please drop a link :smile:


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul]
    #21933325 - 07/12/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I tend to disagree. I felt it provided sufficient historical information and the various opium extraction methods. I'm sure there are other sources but it's a good start.


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Pseudo-Tim]
    #21933479 - 07/12/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I tend to disagree. I felt it provided sufficient historical information and the various opium extraction methods. I'm sure there are other sources but it's a good start.



Have you clicked the link????
Sonunds like have not!


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul] * 1
    #21934531 - 07/12/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol. I just clicked it. That's not what he is referring to. Opium for the masses is an actual book. Google search it and you can buy it or find yourself a PDF and read.  :thumbup:


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21938169 - 07/13/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hahaha. Misunderstanding induced douchery.


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Pseudo-Tim] * 1
    #21941594 - 07/14/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like P. SETIGERUM to me... If so, it will have no rec or medicinal value to you. Google it, and you'll find many pics that look much like those.

As for when to harvest, it varies greatly on the climate at the moment. If it's warm and humid they'll ripen faster and smaller, etc.
But the actual Mathis is to check the pod color. When ready they will turn a blue-ish/ grey color, and look "dusty" around the pod. Here's a good pic of one of my own from last year for reference. The left pod is ripe and ready, the right side pod is still growing and not yet fully mature.



Hope that helps, I also googled p.Setigerum and found this pic:



The plant is in better health than yours, but notice the pod shape and leaf structure. I could be wrong of course, but given the pic posted this is my best guess...
When in doubt, try it out??? Lol hope u have Somni's there, try to post a better pic after the pods have had another few days to a week to swell more. Best of luck :smile:

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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Denman] * 1
    #21941613 - 07/14/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)
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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Denman] * 1
    #21941623 - 07/14/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, I may be mistaken... One noticeable difference between SETIGERUM and Somniferum is the hairs. Somni's have little to no hair, just like what you posted.
Either way they aren't ripe yet. My advice is to let them ripen and then harvest. It looks like The soil is quite lacking in nutrients and very dry, so they may simply be very small little runts so to speak.

But at least they're probably the right ones... :crazy2:


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Sham87]
    #21979870 - 07/22/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Denman said:
The left pod is ripe and ready, the right side pod is still growing and not yet fully mature.



Hope that helps



It sure did, thx bro :smile:


Unfortunately the answer to my originally question turned out to be this:
"Before someone ells does" :sad:

The good thing was that they left all the really small ones....
I thrust the best thing was to harvest what was left, even that they were not ready.
Better to do that, than to let them mature an lose them to the thief.

So this is what I am left with now:

I hope it is still possible to get some opium out of it.





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Sham87 said:
Here ya go op:



:bow2:  :thumbup:




Anyone know a really good way to extract the opium?
and also, if done with alcohol would it be ok to use denatured alcohol?


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul]
    #21979936 - 07/22/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This is a funny way these dudes get their medicine in Czech Republic.



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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Sham87]
    #21980142 - 07/22/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't seen that metode befor ether:syringe:


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Peaceful Soul]
    #21987344 - 07/23/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just make tea. Simple to do, and a great way to spend the day :tee:

Sorry to see someone got them first tho, man that sux! Glad u got what u could. Even the smells have plenty of good stuff to go around. Make some tea and enjoy what you have. Just go slow if you've never done it before. It's potent shit...


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Re: When to harvest P. Somniferum? [Re: Sham87]
    #21988042 - 07/24/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's a cool video. I saw that and was blown away when I found out that it was basically crude opium. As labor intensive as that seems, scarring the pod seems so much more efficient. At least it doesn't completely kill the plant like the head chopping method. That method just makes them sick because they don't refine the drug and end up shooting plant matter. That can be very dangerous. You may as well scar and smoke the resin. At least there's some dosage control and at least you dont run the risk of heart attack or clotting when smoking plant material.


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