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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rackem] * 1
    #21929105 - 07/11/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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yeah it sucks when your on a creeper and drop the damn wrench.. never fun.




no knuckle busting, no wrench dropping on my face but it was a pain in the ass
putting this in the car by myself at 2am in 30F weather



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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21929120 - 07/11/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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checking the motormount takes less time than anything else to diagnose.





hesitation isnt a term people would use when describing something such as a
broken motor mount. rudeboi and arctic fox gave a rundown of things that would
cause something to be described as hesitation. most GMs with quadrajets would
hesitate a bit because nailing the pedal would uncover the jets and rob the
vehicle of fuel, some holleys had the same issue

typically it's fuel system, sensors or ignition related


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21929124 - 07/11/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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after that i would change the air filter, plugs, wires, cap button, and put in fuel injector cleaner.




assuming he has a distributor.  and rebuild shit in a can is never a fix.

knuckle busting sucks normally, add cold, fuck that.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rackem]
    #21929133 - 07/11/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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aint that the truth.

a friend of mine just told me the other day she is a quarter million dollars in debt due to school loans.

how the fuck are you even supposed to get a jump on life with that much debt.





You dont. Your an indentured slave.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21929140 - 07/11/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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rxb said:
checking the motormount takes less time than anything else to diagnose.





hesitation isnt a term people would use when describing something such as a
broken motor mount. rudeboi and arctic fox gave a rundown of things that would
cause something to be described as hesitation. most GMs with quadrajets would
hesitate a bit because nailing the pedal would uncover the jets and rob the
vehicle of fuel, some holleys had the same issue

typically it's fuel system, sensors or ignition related




on a front wheel drive car, if the front or back mount is out, your engine will seem like its hesitating.

im just in the middle of a body off restoration of an 82 4 wheel drive diesel, full teardown and rebuild...

i've never turned a wrench before :smile:


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21929147 - 07/11/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

something about that just doesnt seem right..


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rackem]
    #21929219 - 07/11/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah the debt system is just what replaces slavery.

they make cheap bobbles (cell phones) sell them for a lot of money and you go in debt to get them.

then you are forced to work it off, or commit crimes and go to jail.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21929343 - 07/11/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Education should be free. You shouldnt have to go into debt to learn. I went for a year. My math class i never missed more than one problem on any test. Was taking it as a refresher as i took 2 years off.

The profeasor came up to me your acing all of these but you have a B why aren't you doing your homework. Uhhhhh. Because im not going to spend 100$ to do my homework online. Give it to me on paper. And grade it your damn self. Dropped out shortly after it's just a money hungry cash grab on kids that shouldnt be making those kinda financial decisions for there future.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21929371 - 07/11/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

School has gotten so expensive. I'm glad that I already have my degrees. I did take a student loan but I only borrowed a total of $5k. So, paying it off is nothing.

I think that we are starting to see diminishing returns with education. Over the next few decades I think there will be an education gap in the younger generations. People will stop going to school because it just isn't worth it. That's a free market for ya.:wink:


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21929376 - 07/11/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
Education should be free. You shouldnt have to go into debt to learn..






you can learn without paying, you cant go to a university without paying, if you
did then who will pay the electric bills, the heating bills, pay the professors
and other faculties, who be willing to go into debt in order for you to learn?


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21929397 - 07/11/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the countries that start offering free higher education are going to see advanced returns. I think its germany thats doing it. If people want to learn let them. It only benefits everyone. There could be some genius sleeping in a gutter as there socio economic status didnt allow them to go to school.

Pay good teachers more and let people learn. But America is all capitalism though so might as soak them for everything there worth. Indentured slavery. Cant even default on it or declare bankruptcy.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21929411 - 07/11/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I was referring to America. IMO, free education, as it is in Europe, produces better scholars too. It's because there aren't enough places for everyone, so there is competition and you have to work your ass off to get it. In the US a lot of people feel entitled because they are paying/borrowing to go to school and some of them don't learn shit.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21930226 - 07/11/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i did some research, and apparently the term hesitation is a real auto term.  Who know :shrug:

This site had  good info: http://www.aa1car.com/library/problem_hesitation.htm

Im going to look into getting a scan tool, or renting one.

As for my vehicle, its a 98 chevy blazer SUV. Not a clunker, buts got about 200,000miles Now.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930344 - 07/11/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I had hesitation when I depressed the gas in my roommate's MR2. It was a vacuum leak, but the car also had an overall loss of power when accelerating. It was an easy fix , but it was also right in my face when I opened the hood/trunk/thingy (broken clamp connecting the vacuum hose right to the airbox)...

Like these fine folk point out, a symptom like that is darn near traceable to most all vital systems in any car.

I usually do all my own work on my car, but diagnosis is whole 'nother beast. $50 tops for a good diagnosis and you can google the shit out of anything. My 2 cents.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21930448 - 07/11/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rxb said:
everything above mentioned is a possibility.

the reason i hit on the motor mount thing is the hesitation off the line...

when a motor mount goes thats 90 degrees off the drive train, when you press the accelerator the motor twists a bit before power is applied to the transmission causing a hesitation just like you described.

you can diagnose it by having someone hold their foot on the brake and give it a little gas, you can watch the motor move. sometimes even does it in park. the motor shouldnt move at all if the motor mounts are good.


That is incorect. Only Solid motor mounts keep the motor from moving and there are no street cars with solid motor mounts only drag cars. A bad catalytic converter can also cause hesitation.


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21930530 - 07/11/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rxb said:
everything above mentioned is a possibility.

the reason i hit on the motor mount thing is the hesitation off the line...

when a motor mount goes thats 90 degrees off the drive train, when you press the accelerator the motor twists a bit before power is applied to the transmission causing a hesitation just like you described.

you can diagnose it by having someone hold their foot on the brake and give it a little gas, you can watch the motor move. sometimes even does it in park. the motor shouldnt move at all if the motor mounts are good.


That is incorect. Only Solid motor mounts keep the motor from moving and there are no street cars with solid motor mounts only drag cars. A bad catalytic converter can also cause hesitation.




true but a bit pedantic because the difference in the movement of a bad motormount and a good one is way different. in many front wheel drive vehicles when they go bad the engine will twist extremely noticably... yeah rubber mounts give a BIT but i think the difference would be readily apparent


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21930544 - 07/11/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rackem]
    #21930912 - 07/11/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rackem said:
aint that the truth.

a friend of mine just told me the other day she is a quarter million dollars in debt due to school loans.

how the fuck are you even supposed to get a jump on life with that much debt.




Four years at ~$60k a year sounds about right to me


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb]
    #21930937 - 07/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just changed my todque motor mounts out that i replaced last year. The front and back one. The motor moves when accelerating an shifting due to the amount of torque. They are made of rubber, however they are not solid. I see this as a design flaw on my particular vehicle. Just my 2 cents


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Re: Car question - "Hesitation" on the Acceleration [Re: rxb] * 1
    #21930967 - 07/11/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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that's for a rear wheel drive


anyway, if the car hesitates it just needs a pep talk about courage


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