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OfflinePandemoon
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Ryar10241]
    #21932028 - 07/12/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Last night I prepared two fresh mature Amanita caps into a tea, ..





Fresh muscaria contains mainly ibotenic acid, that's the bad stuff that makes you sick the most, slightly psychedelic.
Ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol by drying the mushrooms. Muscimol is much more digestible and also more effective. That's why you should always dry your muscaria, to get stronger psychedelic effects with less nausea.

I have not eaten a fresh Amanita so far, but I have had some of the most visionary experiences with dried muscaria, eaten, brewed tea and alcoholic tinctures / shots. Of potent, dried Amanita you need to take a few grams only to get good results.


I totally agree with Deviate on this Amanita-topic going around here the last weeks ..most of it.
It truly is a magical mushroom and a powerful psychedelic healing-tool. Can be so blissful. :thumbup:

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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Deviate]
    #21932762 - 07/12/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I've never done meth but I really like aminitas and want to them very often but I can't afford it. Do you know if there is a way to extract the actives from your piss?




You don't have to be afraid of drinking urine on the supposition that it is bad for you. Thee are a lot of people who drink urine in order to support and enhance their health. Look up urine therapy. It is not true that urine is just toxins. I has many organic compounds, hormones, vitamins, minerals, and excretions that, according to proponents of Urine Therapy, are tailor made remedies for the bodies that produce them. Your urine, in other words, is the only urine that can completely help you, not someone else's. Urine is hard to get a taste for. If you take a good sized piece of fresh ginger and chew it wkhile you drink the pee it helps greatly to disguise the taste. Then when the drinking is done, take a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. This will kill the after taste pretty effectively. I have done all this stuff. I didn't kfind any particular benefit so I quit--but then, I wasn't sick to begin with and can't say that it wouldn't have helped if I had been.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21932825 - 07/12/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Another thing about urine--compared with amanita tea ( I have experience with both) it is no more than equally off-putting. They are neither of them attractive to the palate.


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21933953 - 07/12/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
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Ryar10241 said:
Last night I prepared two fresh mature Amanita caps into a tea, ..





Fresh muscaria contains mainly ibotenic acid, that's the bad stuff that makes you sick the most, slightly psychedelic.
Ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol by drying the mushrooms. Muscimol is much more digestible and also more effective. That's why you should always dry your muscaria, to get stronger psychedelic effects with less nausea.

I have not eaten a fresh Amanita so far, but I have had some of the most visionary experiences with dried muscaria, eaten, brewed tea and alcoholic tinctures / shots. Of potent, dried Amanita you need to take a few grams only to get good results.


I totally agree with Deviate on this Amanita-topic going around here the last weeks ..most of it.
It truly is a magical mushroom and a powerful psychedelic healing-tool. Can be so blissful. :thumbup:

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I read a bunch of stuff online that says the muscarine was the source of negative effects. I was probably just fed bullshit. Along with boiling them converts all the fresh acids into muscimol :/. I just have a feeling mine were extremely potent because I barfed A LOT. 5 times including my steak and I was still really fucked.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Ryar10241]
    #21934023 - 07/12/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I read a bunch of stuff online that says the muscarine was the source of negative effects.
Along with boiling them converts all the fresh acids into muscimol :/.





No, muscarine is found in such a little amount only, you don't have to worry about getting in trouble because of muscarine as long as you do not make a super-potent muscarine extract.

No, boiling is just a hot water extraction of the substance. In water the ibotenic acid will not turn to muscimol that easy!
You have to heat it up, yes. But it's all about getting the watermolecule out of the substance by heating it up / drying it (decarboxylation).

I think you just made youself a pretty strong ibotenic-acid-tea, that's why your stomache wasn't that pleased. :smile:

Don't eat them fresh, it will get nauseous this way.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21936745 - 07/13/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wow.... Just wow. Now I feel really dumb hahahaha. Well in any case, it was worth it. I feel like I was trolled!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22002557 - 07/27/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not doubting whether you can or cant. I just would avoid consuming anything with ammonia in it. Urine therapy may exist and work but that doesn't mean many people are going to try it. Ever heard of maggot therapy? When people have severe burns or lots of dead flesh hanging off their body, maggots can be used to consume the dead flesh and sterilize the wounds. Nature found a perfect wound treatment but the majority of humans would freak out if maggots were used to treat them despite how beneficial they are. Although, I've tried my own urine before. It's very dry and is only palatable if its clear and fully hydrated.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Ryar10241]
    #22002566 - 07/27/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

BTW i was just reading my book on plant psychopharmacology and it said that Mescaline from peyote buttons are not filtered out once the body has processed it. It goes out the way it came in. Maybe if you get some peyote, you can take it and then drink your piss and then drink the piss of the piss. Then you can drink the piss of the piss of the piss. Too much piss :tongue:. It probably wont work multiple times. I was just joking. But you can drink peyote piss once. I think its weird that i think that's so cool.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tea Trip Report (on going) [Re: Pseudo-Tim]
    #22035827 - 08/02/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting stuff, I got an ounce of penis envy for my birthday and did them with DRY amanita, no vomitting or anything it was a crazy trip. 7 gs of penis and 10 of amanita, was so so so fucked in the good sense. Clouds were dancing, grass was head banging in the wind. Such a lovely experience.


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