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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: hex_enduction]
#21924777 - 07/10/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can anybody recommend other jung books? Alchemy is a brand new interest of mine, and I saw he has a couple books about that.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: s240779]
#21924779 - 07/10/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, i'm not talking about the font, genius. i'm talking about the lettering and type set. whether you can change the size or not, the font or not, it's always going to be jumbled mess because it isn't done to exact specifications; it's just text, it's not a nice type face. not to mention you have to do all the adjusting yourself.
No idea what you're talking about.
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akira_akuma said: it doesn't look as good, it's not as readable, and it's a single page per page endeavor. plus it's just nicer to have a proper bound book with nice paper, proper lettering, ect ect, things that make it a much more readable and intimate experience.
Not practical for a lot of people. Do you at least respect the e-reader method for technical books? Like someone in college who loads up his studying materials on it? And you know what? The note taking features of e-readers is far superior to traditional post-it notes. That's one of the best features of digital books. Highly useful for studying. Well I'm not saying that a person wouldn't prefer a physical textbook and post-it notes, but the ability to just stream through a book, digitally tagging things that you need to refer to later is much faster than post-it notes.
interesting. I'd never heard someone mention this benefit before.
Sounds quite useful
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21924799 - 07/10/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, i do, BTW, Da2ra. for paper's, essay's, technical manual's, journal's, then yes, that device is obviously immensely useful.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21924820 - 07/10/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you get a chance, read some Herman Hesse (Steppenwolf (trippy), Demian (well rounded), Siddhartha, Glass Bead Game (kinda slow) etc. etc.) He writes narratives about some fairly compelling characters based on himself (and one about Siddhartha), but they are all very thought provoking.
He shared a lot of ideas with and respected Jung quite a bit and it reflects in his style and content of writing. They had similar upbringings too, Both being Jews from Germany when shit started going down. And both having had a huge appreciation for Buddhism and Eastern philosophy.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
#21925488 - 07/10/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Giftofdeprivation said: If you get a chance, read some Herman Hesse (Steppenwolf (trippy), Demian (well rounded), Siddhartha, Glass Bead Game (kinda slow) etc. etc.) He writes narratives about some fairly compelling characters based on himself (and one about Siddhartha), but they are all very thought provoking.
He shared a lot of ideas with and respected Jung quite a bit and it reflects in his style and content of writing. They had similar upbringings too, Both being Jews from Germany when shit started going down. And both having had a huge appreciation for Buddhism and Eastern philosophy.
I absolutely adore siddhartha. Must've read that book 3-4 times last year.
Had never thought to check out Hesse's other work, thanks
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21925813 - 07/10/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm i have quite an active dream life which is quite an understament, always have and weed was the only thing that sometimes dulled this as it's known to
i record them now and then and can see some dreams have specific meaning to things, usually things i have not dealt with in my life, perhaps dealing with them will stop some of these dreams that have recurrent themes with people i used to see
i might give this a read
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
#21925858 - 07/10/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: I can't recommend it highly enough, and I'm only halfway through it. A lot of it is about dreams and the subconscious. (jung calls it the unconscious though) He makes dreams seem like an incredibly important part of our psyche, and also gives you useful information on how to interpret your dreams.
He also uses his knowledge of dream symbolism to make sense of ancient mythology, ancient symbols, fairy tales, and other seemingly nonsensical parts of our culture. This aspect I found particularly interesting, as it seems that ancient man knew more about his mind than we do today 
After reading this I'm definitely quitting weed. I want to dream again  http://www.amazon.com/Man-Symbols-Carl-Gustav-Jung/dp/0440351839
First book in a long time that I've actually had trouble putting down. Its only six bucks people. 
I have that book. I wouldn't call it a Carl Jung book. He only wrote one chapter in it. The rest of it is other authors interpreting some of Carl Jung's more heady subject matter. Right now I'm reading The Basic Writings of Carl Jung. It's a seriously hard fucking read.
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Giftofdeprivation said: If you get a chance, read some Herman Hesse (Steppenwolf (trippy), Demian (well rounded), Siddhartha, Glass Bead Game (kinda slow) etc. etc.) He writes narratives about some fairly compelling characters based on himself (and one about Siddhartha), but they are all very thought provoking.
He shared a lot of ideas with and respected Jung quite a bit and it reflects in his style and content of writing. They had similar upbringings too, Both being Jews from Germany when shit started going down. And both having had a huge appreciation for Buddhism and Eastern philosophy.
Carl Jung was not Jewish. In fact, his philosophies are popular in white supremacist circles.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: lowbrow]
#21926243 - 07/10/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're right, I was mixing Freud in there. Neato re: supremacy stuff! Nevertheless, run a basic search of Jung and Hesse and you'll see countless reports and articles on the similar ideas esp regarding archetypal symbolism.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: chameleon303]
#21927104 - 07/11/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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chameleon303 said: hmm i have quite an active dream life which is quite an understament, always have and weed was the only thing that sometimes dulled this as it's known to
i record them now and then and can see some dreams have specific meaning to things, usually things i have not dealt with in my life, perhaps dealing with them will stop some of these dreams that have recurrent themes with people i used to see
i might give this a read 
any active dreamer should read it
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: lowbrow]
#21927113 - 07/11/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: I can't recommend it highly enough, and I'm only halfway through it. A lot of it is about dreams and the subconscious. (jung calls it the unconscious though) He makes dreams seem like an incredibly important part of our psyche, and also gives you useful information on how to interpret your dreams.
He also uses his knowledge of dream symbolism to make sense of ancient mythology, ancient symbols, fairy tales, and other seemingly nonsensical parts of our culture. This aspect I found particularly interesting, as it seems that ancient man knew more about his mind than we do today 
After reading this I'm definitely quitting weed. I want to dream again  http://www.amazon.com/Man-Symbols-Carl-Gustav-Jung/dp/0440351839
First book in a long time that I've actually had trouble putting down. Its only six bucks people. 
I have that book. I wouldn't call it a Carl Jung book. He only wrote one chapter in it. The rest of it is other authors interpreting some of Carl Jung's more heady subject matter. Right now I'm reading The Basic Writings of Carl Jung. It's a seriously hard fucking read.
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Giftofdeprivation said: If you get a chance, read some Herman Hesse (Steppenwolf (trippy), Demian (well rounded), Siddhartha, Glass Bead Game (kinda slow) etc. etc.) He writes narratives about some fairly compelling characters based on himself (and one about Siddhartha), but they are all very thought provoking.
He shared a lot of ideas with and respected Jung quite a bit and it reflects in his style and content of writing. They had similar upbringings too, Both being Jews from Germany when shit started going down. And both having had a huge appreciation for Buddhism and Eastern philosophy.
Carl Jung was not Jewish. In fact, his philosophies are popular in white supremacist circles.
yeah, its deceiving because his name is the only one listed on the cover. The other authors have seemed about as good as jung, based on jungs first chapter at least.
His other stuff is that tough eh? Something to build up to I suppose. I adore his way of thinking so far.
Too bad this was his only book geared towards laymen
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21927138 - 07/11/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The red book
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Atreyu]
#21927171 - 07/11/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Atreyu said: The red book
the red book sounded really interesting, but it appeared to be one of his more difficult works from what I saw. I mean, there's a whole book about "how to read the red book"
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21927201 - 07/11/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know.
It stands out as being one of those most bizarre books of all time. Some people say its nonsense, others compare it to the book of the dead.
Carl Jung as you know really was ahead of his time and extremely brilliant, he's interested me for sometime and I keep coming back to him when I discover something else of interest.
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The first words of Carl Gustav Jung's Red Book are "The way of what is to come."
What follows is 16 years of the psychoanalyst's dive into the unconscious mind, a challenge to what he considered Sigmund Frued's — his former mentor's — isolated world view. Far from a simple narrative, the Red Book is Jung's voyage of discovery into his deepest self.
The Red Book By C.G. Jung Hardcover, 404 pages W.W. Norton & Co. List Price: $195
Read An Excerpt
The voyage began at age 11. "On my way to school," Jung recalled in 1959, "I stepped out of a mist and I knew I am. I am what I am. And then I thought, 'But what have I been before?' And then I found that I had been in a mist, not knowing to differentiate myself from things; I was just one thing among many things."
Thirty years later, Jung had a bookbinder make an enormous volume covered in red leather into which he poured his explorations into himself. These explorations included some psychedelic drawings of mythical characters of his dreams and waking fantasies — explorations that Jung feared would make people think him mad.
It took Jungian scholar Dr. Sonu Shamdasani three years to convince Jung's family to bring the book out of hiding. It took another 13 years to translate it.
And still, the Red Book remains incomplete. The last word Jung wrote in the Red Book is "moglichkeit," or possibility.
From its hiding place in a Swiss bank vault, the original Red Book is now on display for the first time at the Rubin Museum of Art in Manhattan, and the translation of the massive volume is at book stores for a hefty $200.
You can get the audio and pdf online for free fiddy.
It is beyond me but still of great interest.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Atreyu]
#21927211 - 07/11/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Atreyu said: I know.
It stands out as being one of those most bizarre books of all time. Some people say its nonsense, others compare it to the book of the dead.
Carl Jung as you know really was ahead of his time and extremely brilliant, he's interested me for sometime and I keep coming back to him when I discover something else of interest.
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The first words of Carl Gustav Jung's Red Book are "The way of what is to come."
What follows is 16 years of the psychoanalyst's dive into the unconscious mind, a challenge to what he considered Sigmund Frued's — his former mentor's — isolated world view. Far from a simple narrative, the Red Book is Jung's voyage of discovery into his deepest self.
The Red Book By C.G. Jung Hardcover, 404 pages W.W. Norton & Co. List Price: $195
Read An Excerpt
The voyage began at age 11. "On my way to school," Jung recalled in 1959, "I stepped out of a mist and I knew I am. I am what I am. And then I thought, 'But what have I been before?' And then I found that I had been in a mist, not knowing to differentiate myself from things; I was just one thing among many things."
Thirty years later, Jung had a bookbinder make an enormous volume covered in red leather into which he poured his explorations into himself. These explorations included some psychedelic drawings of mythical characters of his dreams and waking fantasies — explorations that Jung feared would make people think him mad.
It took Jungian scholar Dr. Sonu Shamdasani three years to convince Jung's family to bring the book out of hiding. It took another 13 years to translate it.
And still, the Red Book remains incomplete. The last word Jung wrote in the Red Book is "moglichkeit," or possibility.
From its hiding place in a Swiss bank vault, the original Red Book is now on display for the first time at the Rubin Museum of Art in Manhattan, and the translation of the massive volume is at book stores for a hefty $200.
You can get the audio and pdf online for free fiddy.
It is beyond me but still of great interest.
Thanks for that background info sounds really interesting now.
free fiddy, I like that phrase.
(His work seems to have an obvious connection to the psychedelic experience. I wish jung himself could have ingested psilocybin and DMT.)
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21927766 - 07/11/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does not one of you own a library card? How old-fashioned I must be.  On the Hesse theme, after Siddhartha, Narcissus and Goldmund is his best.
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: arago]
#21928385 - 07/11/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just enjoy owning books. Then I can lend them to friends with ease
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Re: This carl jung book is blowing my mind: should interest anyone interested in psychdedelics [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22019867 - 07/30/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just finished the book and thought I'd ask y'all about the I ching. Have any of you tried doing the tosses or whatever?
I don't know much about it except what terence mckenna has mentioned and may involve tossing coins.
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