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cronicr



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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22330361 - 10/03/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: cronicr]
#22330385 - 10/03/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed. Fine looking grow
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RJ Tubs 202



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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca] 1
#22343802 - 10/07/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kudos to Violet on the enormously thorough write-up on RGS! I've learned a lot and chuckled at the arguments and dramatic posts in the discussion. I've often had better luck with RGS than grains (although I do love whole brown rice) and have always been puzzled why RGS isn't more popular. I appreciate some people's struggle to get the moisture correct. Ten years ago I just measured dry grass seed and added water ... shaking like hell after PC-ing to distribute the overly wet soggy seed at the bottom with the upper dry seed. Recently I tried your seed prep, and it works great! It's super easy, and results in lush growth. Being an obsessive efficiency aficionado, I find the advantages of your tek interesting and valid. I'm using 2 cup Ziploc containers (they work great) and also polycarbonate Magenta GA-7 boxes I found in a warehouse at an old job (used for sterile plant tissue culture). The Ziploc containers have 2 inches of seed and my Magenta boxes have 3. Is there any downside to such a deep vessel? I'm tempted to spread the seed in a tray (An old habit. I'm used to fruiting thin layers of spawn), but don't want to mess with it and just give it a go. Thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
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KauaiOrca
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Kudos to Violet on the enormously thorough write-up on RGS! I've learned a lot and chuckled at the arguments and dramatic posts in the discussion. I've often had better luck with RGS than grains (although I do love whole brown rice) and have always been puzzled why RGS isn't more popular. I appreciate some people's struggle to get the moisture correct. Ten years ago I just measured dry grass seed and added water ... shaking like hell after PC-ing to distribute the overly wet soggy seed at the bottom with the upper dry seed. Recently I tried your seed prep, and it works great! It's super easy, and results in lush growth. Being an obsessive efficiency aficionado, I find the advantages of your tek interesting and valid. I'm using 2 cup Ziploc containers (they work great) and also polycarbonate Magenta GA-7 boxes I found in a warehouse at an old job (used for sterile plant tissue culture). The Ziploc containers have 2 inches of seed and my Magenta boxes have 3. Is there any downside to such a deep vessel? I'm tempted to spread the seed in a tray (An old habit. I'm used to fruiting thin layers of spawn), but don't want to mess with it and just give it a go. Thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer. 
You will have no problem going with deeper (more than 2 inches) RGS in the containers. If you want to fruit all invitro then the more RGS you put in, the less headroom, but it's easy to get around that with an SGFC or just put a plastic baggie on top of the container when the mushrooms get to the top. I think they grow a lot better with more fresh air, anyway. Casing them helps a lot too ... I just use vermiculite, which works great for me, but there are more sophisticated formulas out there. I think RGS is the perfect grain for small easy grows.
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RJ Tubs 202



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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22348127 - 10/07/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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KauaiOrca said:
You will have no problem going with deeper (more than 2 inches) RGS in the containers. If you want to fruit all invitro then the more RGS you put in, the less headroom, but it's easy to get around that with an SGFC or just put a plastic baggie on top of the container when the mushrooms get to the top. I think they grow a lot better with more fresh air, anyway. Casing them helps a lot too ... I just use vermiculite, which works great for me, but there are more sophisticated formulas out there. I think RGS is the perfect grain for small easy grows.
Thanks for your reply. I've not posted in ages but I read a lot. I'm going to go for it, and directly fruit in the containers. I've got some 50/50+ so will use it. I have one more question. Violet's "Invitro TEK, with BRF or Grass Seed" says ..."When fully colonized, crack the lids loose by turning counter-clockwise a couple inches." and then put under light. Does this mean skipping the one week consolidation period that we often wait for, following complete colonization? AKA the chewing period... How do you folks manage your timeline for in-vitro fruiting?
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Violet



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I don't mention the consolidation period in the invitro ek specifically because it isn't necessary to. With grass seed, or a bulk sub style mix like BRF/verm is, consolidation isn't nearly as necessary or helpful as it is with grains like whole brown rice. I think I mention it nearer the end, where it can be consolidated for more even first flushing and perhaps better potency. But for the most part, they'll fruit when they're ready, and with GS or BRF/verm that wait isn't long enough to necessitate the container staying closed. Those subs make it max simple. The invitro condition doesn't have any danger with cracking the lid a little early if they wouldn't fruit right away which they often don't anyway. But the increased air can help them pin a bit sooner since it speeds metabolism.
-------------------- Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it! PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers The simplest, quickest, safest tek! For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers! • Violet's Teks and Posts •
Edited by Violet (10/08/15 08:03 AM)
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RJ Tubs 202



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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
#22351963 - 10/08/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great. Thanks for the information Violet.
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