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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21981370 - 07/22/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

those straw containers u've been posting really do perform well man.  i like that idea a lot.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21981385 - 07/22/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I need to still tweak a few more things but I am nearly satisfied. Gonna get some LC going soon so I can do some more.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21982166 - 07/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Brown rice has quickly become my favorite grain because of how easily and quickly it strains and how easy it is to shake.  A few minutes of care to prevent bursting are well compensated for by the ease of everything else about it.  I grab it for 70c/lbs at bargainmart/dollarstore, cheap enough for my purposes at least.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21983532 - 07/23/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well i inoculated my seed this morning it appears that the seed seem clumpy  and alot of moisture, is this normal i followed this tek to a T and strain the seed very well after bringing to a steady boil for 25 minutes


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: bakenast]
    #21983566 - 07/23/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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well i inoculated my seed this morning it appears that the seed seem clumpy  and alot of moisture, is this normal i followed this tek to a T and strain the seed very well after bringing to a steady boil for 25 minutes




Mine was a bit clumpy too when I inoculated it as I'm trying this for the first time too.  A lot of moisture in there dripping down the sides but no pooling water or anything like that.  But 5 days later, the RGS is fully colonized and looking great. Going to wait a few more days to crack open the lids a bit and see what happens.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21983604 - 07/23/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ok great i was kinda worried


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: bakenast] * 1
    #21984592 - 07/23/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

IME, rgs takes a very long time to properly dry even if you don't overdo it on the prep.  To get it to the proper level of hydratation, I like to spread out out in a large tote or tote lid, and leave it outside in the sun, mixing it every half hour to hour.  It dries mostly through evaporation.  When you strain it, most of the dripping will have finished within 10-20 minutes.  Putting a towel in the tote may help.

I'm still never quite sure where the RGS is meant to be prepped.  When I use a large stock pot, grain squirts out when pinched between nails after a single boil, which I suspect means it's done or overdone.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21984633 - 07/23/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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IME, rgs takes a very long time to properly dry even if you don't overdo it on the prep.  To get it to the proper level of hydratation, I like to spread out out in a large tote or tote lid, and leave it outside in the sun, mixing it every half hour to hour.  It dries mostly through evaporation.  When you strain it, most of the dripping will have finished within 10-20 minutes.  Putting a towel in the tote may help.

I'm still never quite sure where the RGS is meant to be prepped.  When I use a large stock pot, grain squirts out when pinched between nails after a single boil, which I suspect means it's done or overdone.




I did my first RGS prep this month following Violet's instruction to the letter.  I have no idea if they were dry enough or not, but all of the jars (4) I inoculated with LC colonized very quickly and the 4 I did with a ms syringe are all colonizing nicely too, so, for me the grains seem to be working according to her directions.  I do live in a very dry climate and not sure that matters, but it is a factor.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21984678 - 07/23/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can get away with a wide variety of moisture content in vtek containers and they will still work.

Glass RGS master quarts are another matter.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21984818 - 07/23/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever fruited PE strain invitro with this TEK and RGS and made it work?


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21985005 - 07/23/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, I only have two varieties and I live in one of the shitty states so people probably won't trade with me.

My only serious invitro grow was about 1/2-2/3 cup birdseed cased with 50/50+ in a quart mason.  I fruitied it with a tinfoil lid that i stabbed with a knife.  It has consistently seemed very prone to aborts that shit on its yield.  Not sure if that's from high CO2 levels or genetics (had a tray that loved to abort as well, no way it was because of CO2 in that case.)  Still, based on the difference between that, and the fruiting characteristics of my unattended grain petris (some rgs, some wbs,) I would seriously consider using a casing.

I'm very close to finishing my greenhouse, so it's pretty much gonna be regular v-tek from here on.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21985082 - 07/23/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah, I only have two varieties and I live in one of the shitty states so people probably won't trade with me.

My only serious invitro grow was about 1/2-2/3 cup birdseed cased with 50/50+ in a quart mason.  I fruitied it with a tinfoil lid that i stabbed with a knife.  It has consistently seemed very prone to aborts that shit on its yield.  Not sure if that's from high CO2 levels or genetics (had a tray that loved to abort as well, no way it was because of CO2 in that case.)  Still, based on the difference between that, and the fruiting characteristics of my unattended grain petris (some rgs, some wbs,) I would seriously consider using a casing.

I'm very close to finishing my greenhouse, so it's pretty much gonna be regular v-tek from here on.




One of the things you hear over and over here is "a cube is a cube" but my experience is there is a big difference in terms of how different strains respond to invitro growing.  Some really hate it and others thrive which may have a lot to do with opinions that are formed in terms of whether you had a receptive strain.  I went through three recently that just didn't like it and wouldn't fruit right and finally found one that loves it.  Not doing anything different or better, just a strain that likes invitro and when that happens, it's pretty damned easy.  I know a lot of people get into the art and science of it all and are unbelievable creative, I'm just into an easy, stealthy grow that WORKS consistently, as I don't need or even want to harvest 10lbs of fruits … It seems a lot more manageable to have 4-5 different grows going in these plastic jars as you need almost no space to do it.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21989683 - 07/24/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I usually just make my agar a little richer and it almost always pins from ms. 90% of the clones that I have kept long term came from pins off my agar.





Would you please elaborate? A little richer? Does this mean more LME in my case? You leave the spores long enough to pin? Sometimes the jargon isn't clear to me.

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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #21989792 - 07/24/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

More nutritional content yes.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21989942 - 07/24/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One of the things you hear over and over here is "a cube is a cube" but my experience is there is a big difference in terms of how different strains respond to invitro growing.



I mentioned this a few times in the "strain thread". Hippie3 tested out lots of different ones, if you search invitro PF or neglect tek you might find them.

Pf classic & gulf coast were 2 commonly recommended ones.

Growing in jars with more air space might give different results though.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Grey]
    #22328775 - 10/03/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, THIS is where that SteveRogers has trolled me before. Now I remember.

Good read.  I might start collecting the good reviews from people who have actually done my teks right, like some that are in this thread.
Some stuff that I missed, too.
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I think some people are mixing up v-tek and violets invitro bottle tek. I've never tried v-tek, and tbh probably won't. However, the invitro tek she has works.



Yeah, they are kindof mixing them up.
But that's not really the point.  The irony is that they get treated so differently...
People don't get that they're almost THE SAME TEK!
One goes in a fruiting chamber and requires casing. The other IS ITS OWN fruiting chamber and doesn't require a casing unless using something other than grass seeds or BRF/verm (or any other bulk sub mix)
Past that, they're both the same bottom-watered grain cakes.  (Except using BRF/verm in which case it's bottom-watered PF cakes)
So, approval for one is approval for the other.
Of course, rather than dragging the unwarranted negative stigma from v-tek to the invitro tek, that should bring the understanding and acceptance of the invitro tek to the more scalable v-tek.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #22328835 - 10/03/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Mushroom_J]
    #22328923 - 10/03/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I did brf cakes instead of rgs.
Multispore. 4 containers.
It's over all cheaper and same results as cakes in in a sgfc.
Don't need a fruiting chamber. I've averaged about a 1/2 oz off each container so far. . I think that's pretty good.

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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #22329279 - 10/03/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Oh, THIS is where that SteveRogers has trolled me before. Now I remember.




Haha!  I think it's hilarious that you dug around looking for where he came from (I saw the recent posts too)

You do seem to have attracted your fair share of trolls from what I can see.

I do have a couple WBS v-tek containers going, amongst the other half-dozen or so things I'm messing around with on my mad scientist shelves.  :smile:


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Sivarted] * 1
    #22329478 - 10/03/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Recent v-tek grow results with RGS ...





No SGFC, no Monotub, No dunking/rolling, no fanning, no misting ... hell yes it works!  Very easy way to grow successfully.  Around 250g wet per container.  15 cents worth of RGS per container.


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