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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21926584 - 07/10/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21926610 - 07/10/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21926616 - 07/10/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Violet good to see you :wave:


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21926630 - 07/10/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You too, Pasty! I'll message you sometime to catch up, when it's not so late! I've been pretty much completely gone from here for months, barely peeking in and checking PMs. Get with ya soon!


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21926637 - 07/10/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cool :thumbup:


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21927190 - 07/11/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have no doubt that bottomwatering works.  IMO grain subs are also easier to prepare then PF subs.  Grass seed may not have significantly higher yield potential for the same volume because it's light.  Also, if violate's postulate that cubes like to pin off low nutrition areas is correct, a cased grain with have a much better chance of only pinning off the casing than a PF sub invitro.  IMO it would be worthwhile using a casing in invitro to get a better pinning surface, even though strictly speaking it isn't necessary.  That also opens you up to using any grain you want with greater success.

I honestly think this tek is so controversial mostly because it goes against male thinking.  i.e. Want a bunch of mushrooms?  Well, we start with a dump truck of coir and a cement mixer full of spawn, then pour them together in a swimming pool.
Take a container that wouldn't hold your lunch, then fill it half full of grass seed and water it like a flowaaaaa, and you should let it grow doesn't really sound as intuitively compelling. 

Having gotten 4.5oz/cup off multispore grass seed, (nearly what she says you can get off grass seed,) so I think it's quite compelling that an ideal culture in an ideal FC on rice or wbs could hit 7.5oz, given the density difference.
If 4 containers in my greenhouse to be would take up about 2/3 of the space of one of my foil pans, use no coir, require only the same preparation as a spawn grain, use 1/4 the quantity of casing, and produce equal quantities of better fruits, I find it hard to argue against that.  They are a bit higher maintainence though.

I've had both hollow and dense fruits come off coir, but these v-tek fruits didn't give when squeezed at all, and their colouration indicated that that might be, ahm, very :mushroom2:flavourful:mushroom2:  Seemed a bit more cap happy with a thinner stem than coir fruits.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21927710 - 07/11/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have no doubt that bottomwatering works.  IMO grain subs are also easier to prepare then PF subs.  Grass seed may not have significantly higher yield potential for the same volume because it's light.  Also, if violate's postulate that cubes like to pin off low nutrition areas is correct, a cased grain with have a much better chance of only pinning off the casing than a PF sub invitro.  IMO it would be worthwhile using a casing in invitro to get a better pinning surface, even though strictly speaking it isn't necessary.  That also opens you up to using any grain you want with greater success.

I honestly think this tek is so controversial mostly because it goes against male thinking.  i.e. Want a bunch of mushrooms?  Well, we start with a dump truck of coir and a cement mixer full of spawn, then pour them together in a swimming pool.
Take a container that wouldn't hold your lunch, then fill it half full of grass seed and water it like a flowaaaaa, and you should let it grow doesn't really sound as intuitively compelling. 

Having gotten 4.5oz/cup off multispore grass seed, (nearly what she says you can get off grass seed,) so I think it's quite compelling that an ideal culture in an ideal FC on rice or wbs could hit 7.5oz, given the density difference.
If 4 containers in my greenhouse to be would take up about 2/3 of the space of one of my foil pans, use no coir, require only the same preparation as a spawn grain, use 1/4 the quantity of casing, and produce equal quantities of better fruits, I find it hard to argue against that.  They are a bit higher maintainence though.

I've had both hollow and dense fruits come off coir, but these v-tek fruits didn't give when squeezed at all, and their colouration indicated that that might be, ahm, very :mushroom2:flavourful:mushroom2:  Seemed a bit more cap happy with a thinner stem than coir fruits.




Thanks!  Super helpful post.  I'm going to try it!


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21927723 - 07/11/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I like all of the methods, and get results exactly like what's described in the threads! :grin::thumbup:




Hi Violet - Thanks a million for the great write-up on your tek!  I'm going to try it.  Absolutely love how between the two sized jars can create virtually everything.  Agar, multi spore starters to use for LI, fruiting right in the jars, clean, no mixing, one ingredient and super stealthy. 

I think it's one of the most creative and simple methods out there and your write up is absolutely incredible. 

Did you find it makes any difference at all what strain you start off with as I don't have a ton of prints.  I have vendor syringes of PE, PE6, Texas, Amazon and South American … any thoughts at all from your experience?


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21928020 - 07/11/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19219682

:goodluckwiththat2:

There is a time and a place for V-Tek, good luck in your attempts.
By the way CAN WE STOP CALLING IT V-TEK AND JUST CALL IT FRUITING FROM PP5 CONTAINERS.

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Just a heads up; It's highly frowned upon in mycology to name any procedure or any mushroom or culture, etc., after oneself.  Teks should be named for what they are or what they accomplish.  :wink:

People have been hydrating and sterilizing grass seed for many years.  People have also been casing grass seed and other grains for many years. 

We always appreciate members posting their projects and giving info on how they do things, but re-wording something or using plastic or tin instead of glass doesn't make it a new tek.
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You gotta be shitting me.  We don't grow mushrooms on Violet.  We grow mushrooms on substrates.  This crap about naming stuff after oneself is going to stop.  We have 50K members.  We can't have 50K teks named after each person, instead of what the procedure is actually doing.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21928065 - 07/11/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19219682

:goodluckwiththat2:

There is a time and a place for V-Tek, good luck in your attempts.
By the way CAN WE STOP CALLING IT V-TEK AND JUST CALL IT FRUITING FROM PP5 CONTAINERS.




I have no idea why it would bother you what it is called?  I've read a lot of threads and hers is very unique the way she uses the two sizes of PP5 containers for agar, very small amount grain culturing, no casing of RGS, invitro grow in the containers and super clean prints.  The detail in her write-up is extraordinary.  If there is another tek or write-up that is identical to this, I never saw it.  It's not just fruiting from PP5 containers.  It's a complete system from start to finish of culturing, growing, printing all in a sterile environment.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21928083 - 07/11/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Read Pasty's log and get back to me. If you have time and money to burn then go V-Tek all day. There are much better ways to go about what she is attempting there.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21928137 - 07/11/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You all need to get your panties out of a bunch. You did not lose a member to the darkside. If this member chooses a method that not many agree with, it's their choice. So don't derail their thread because you don't aprove. Move on.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21928162 - 07/11/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Indeed...

Funny how people like to cherry-pick stuff like that out when it suits their bias.
Note that, as I said to RR back in those days of his half-attentiveness, we don't grow mushrooms on ProfessorFanaticus either. Yet there seems to be no problem with the 1,000 daily references to PFtek.

People like you are just trying to start new flak and drama by pointing to the fact that, indeed, old drama did exist.
That, and a few mediocre or semi-failed attempts that were posted early on, somehow means to you that the court finds these methods "guilty".  But this requires covering one's eyes and saying "nananana na" to the fact that I have shown several times the results that I get, and others get the likes as well, such as Machi mentions himself in THIS VERY THREAD.

I wish more people would follow the leads of peeps like Pasty, Muda, Cron... Far better growers than any of the monkeys that have flung poo, by the way, and apparently smarter in general.

The grow tek works.  Like any tek does in a variety of circumstances and skills, it works differently for different people.
Just makes me wonder why this is all a personal problem to the likes of you.

Goosfraba.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21928178 - 07/11/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I wish more people would follow the leads of peeps like Pasty




Me too. He proved categorically that your tek was a waste of time, space resources, ect.

My only concern on this board is spreading useful efficient techniques. The BE of your tek is laughable. Period


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21928182 - 07/11/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't even make that claim himself.  Careful about putting words in Pasty's mouth.

Oh, and a very blasphemous use of the word "proof" there.  You're bound for science hell if you don't turn your life around quick, sonny


I'm starting to wonder which old troll puppet you are with your 330 posts in 9 years...
Seems like your real only concern on this board is popping in to troll a very few specific topics.
My be is not "laughable" .... "Period" hahahah.... in the least bit.  It's better than yours to say the least ;P


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21928191 - 07/11/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Chill. your tek is valid and you should be proud. just not my cup of tea. Not trying to start anything here. i wish you success on your future grows. there is no need to insult me. I have been doing this longer than this site has existed. Just calm down.

for the record....Pasty's grows are something you should aspire to.

I stand by my statement your BE is sub par.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Violet]
    #21928205 - 07/11/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think some people are mixing up v-tek and violets invitro bottle tek. I've never tried v-tek, and tbh probably won't. However, the invitro tek she has works. I don't do it all the time, but when I've got some leftover LI I make some up. It's fun because once it's inoculated I don't touch a thing until I harvest. It eliminates all the "how do my cakes look?" "Am I misting/fanning too much/too little?".

I still prefer mono's and muda bottles for bulk no doubt.

Chill guys.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Grey]
    #21928289 - 07/11/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

V has a RSS feed any time someone like me says her name boom she's here.

There's plenty of other methods I find to be lack luster in comparison to available methods. I try to help people grow mushrooms  in my own way. The only vendeta aspect comes from the attitude V uses and they hype machine that goes along with the methods. No one else has a built in hype machine in their teks. Plain and simple anyone who claims potency increases simply because of the method rather than hard work with strain isolation is going to be called out by me. You can ignore me if it causes too much butthurt to listen to my critical assessment but I'm not going to stop saying when people ask just because V has a hard time with criticism of a sub par TEK. It would be a hell of a lot less chastised if it were not for the noob eye catching claims for things that only come from hard work not a re-hased method, like all current teks just being re-hased and improvement on old methods. Nothing here is clearly unique nothing. It's all based on what has already existed and constantly improving.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21928320 - 07/11/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was wondering about the rss feed. I just thought she was searching her name or something.


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Re: Violet's V-Tek ??? [Re: Grey]
    #21928333 - 07/11/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All I know is I'm opinionated I disagree with almost everyone on something or another. I say it like I see it. If you got a problem with me, ignore button please. I do what I do and I know there's plenty of helped out people to show for it.

I'm not putting anyone on my ignore list permanently just because they want to troll, but being called a troll myself is always a good laugh. I think I would have been found out by now from more than just one person if I was a little troll fuck....


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