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Tantrika
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Re: White People [Re: Asante] 1
#21922442 - 07/09/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: If I ever express any interest in anything MTV does please immediately dispatch a hit man to put me out of my misery because I will obviously have lost my mind
I've never seen Alex Jones word taken as gospel by so many people in The Pub.
I don't get this reference.
The OP has a link to an article by Infowars.com and a trailer to the MTV show. People here are reacting as if Infowars painted an accurate picture of what the show will be about.
Tried googling for some decent links about the story, Washington Times gave a softer article. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/9/mtvs-white-people-documentary-asks-whites-to-addre/
Meanwhile, a video on the page says that other stories for the day apparently include the Washington Redskins no longer being able to gain copyright protection for their team name.
The documentary apparently wants to start an "honest conversation about race."
It seems that many white people honestly feel uncomfortable talking about their race. Given that taking pride in being white slides along into the territory of white supremacy, cannot blame many for not wanting to talk about it. The impression many people seem to give is generally that if you are white, you can only say bad things about your race.
You even personally express what seems to be a discomfort over having white heritage:
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Asante said: I look white but I never identified with that side of me. "white" does not adequately describe my racial background.
It was not enough for you to disavow any connection to being white, you had to go so far as to say that you never identified with that portion of your heritage. So as a mixed-race individual, you take pride in the parts that are not white and avoid talking about the part that is white -- it really looks similar from the outside to someone who is all white being uncomfortable with talking about that.

I'm white. I have a bit of First Nations blood, but not enough to consider myself of mixed race. My French ancestors who came to Canada were quite likely criminals off the boat trying to make a new life. What do I talk about when people open a conversation with "I'm _____ and I'm (insert race)" ? Personally just touch on my family's heritage in the Québec uprisings. Have no idea how to deal with it otherwise. Race is not an important topic to me; feel that people should be judged on their individual worth rather than the colour of their skin or what heritage they identify as. Mutual respect is more important than who someone's ancestors were. Perhaps it is my privilege as a white man to be unconcerned with race, not sure.
Give me some insights on how to discuss race when I am white and oblivious?
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Re: White People [Re: Tantrika]
#21922464 - 07/09/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: Race is not an important topic to me; feel that people should be judged on their individual worth rather than the colour of their skin or what heritage they identify as.
This is truuu as the philosopher tity boi said
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Just found out that the only things really keeping me from being legally declared Métis is identifying as Métis and having Métis people accept me for that.
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The number of people self-identifying as Métis has risen sharply since the late 20th century: between 1996 and 2006, the population of Canadians who self-identify as Métis nearly doubled to approximately 390,000.[10] Until R v. Powley (2003), there was no legal definition of Métis. The case involved a claim by Steven Powley and his son Rodney, two members of the Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Métis community, who were asserting Métis hunting rights. The Supreme Court of Canada outlined three broad factors to identify Métis who have rights as aboriginal peoples:[12]
self-identification as a Métis individual; ancestral connection to an historic Métis community; and acceptance by a Métis community.
All three factors must be present for an individual to qualify under the legal definition of Métis. In addition, the court stated that
[t]he term Métis in s. 35 does not encompass all individuals with mixed Indian and European heritage; rather, it refers to distinctive peoples who, in addition to their mixed ancestry, developed their own customs, ways of life, and recognizable group identity separate from their Indian or Inuit and European forebears.[10]
Link.
Maybe race is about what people identify as rather than just the colour of their skin?

Perhaps I should get in touch with a Métis community and learn more about that part of my heritage? Maybe if my skin weren't so white it would not feel like a psychological issue to debate. Have enjoyed learning about the French portion of my heritage, learning about Métis culture and heritage could very well be compelling.
Fuck it, this whole topic has left me more confused than better off.
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Re: White People [Re: Tantrika] 2
#21922620 - 07/09/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now they're having white guilt vacations. Could you imagine being in a family like this? Poor kid. There should be stupid shaming, to feel what its like to be this retarded.
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billy jowl said: Now they're having white guilt vacations. Could you imagine being in a family like this? Poor kid. There should be stupid shaming, to feel what its like to be this retarded.

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People have fucking lost it
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This is a mind control operation in order to divide and conquer.
Or maybe it's just utter stupidity.
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im 100% convinced its the government using social media to push all this shit down our throats, the simple minds that eat mcdonalds just can't pass this stupidity by
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I like their "so sorry" shirts. The bravery and selflessness, how inspiring 
Someone like this guy should come up behind them and pull down their pants and get some reparations prison style. To give them the full guilt and shame experience.
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makaveli8x8 said: how the fuck are they allowed on tv, an entire show based on racism? what the flying fuck?
where the fuk have you been for the last 4-5 years? Whites have been getting discriminated harder than any other race by a LONG shot
try hiring a white guy over another race with equal qualifications these days, see which court that ends you up in.
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It was not enough for you to disavow any connection to being white, you had to go so far as to say that you never identified with that portion of your heritage.
No, I'm for the most part white but thats never been the whole story for me. I know from family history and DNA that its not the whole story. I have always felt mixed and never fully identified with any single race description.
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Tantrika
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Re: White People [Re: Asante]
#21923000 - 07/10/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was not enough for you to disavow any connection to being white, you had to go so far as to say that you never identified with that portion of your heritage.
No, I'm for the most part white but thats never been the whole story for me. I know from family history and DNA that its not the whole story. I have always felt mixed and never fully identified with any single race description.
That is fair, thank you for clarifying my miscomprehension.
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Re: White People [Re: koods]
#21923343 - 07/10/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: how the fuck are they allowed on tv, an entire show based on racism? what the flying fuck?
where the fuk have you been for the last 4-5 years? Whites have been getting discriminated harder than any other race by a LONG shot
try hiring a white guy over another race with equal qualifications these days, see which court that ends you up in.
You are fucking delusional
It depends if the company needs another minority to make it look good and kept the EEOC off its back.
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Re: White People [Re: qman]
#21923407 - 07/10/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did anybody raise the possibility that, maybe, MTV is utter shit and should not be given any kind of attention anyway?
All of this is
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#21923438 - 07/10/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: how the fuck are they allowed on tv, an entire show based on racism? what the flying fuck?
where the fuk have you been for the last 4-5 years? Whites have been getting discriminated harder than any other race by a LONG shot
try hiring a white guy over another race with equal qualifications these days, see which court that ends you up in.
You are fucking delusional
It depends if the company needs another minority to make it look good and kept the EEOC off its back.
Minorities have been explicitly favored over whites in each and every job I have ever had, as well as during my education at university.
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I think I read somewhere BET channel is going to do some kinda reverse racism reality show. The shows main intent is to bring to light how prevalent and pervasive black on white racism really is, And how often it's downplayed. Kudos to BET to have the courage to shed some light on this under reported reality.
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Under reported? Everytime an instance of W on B racism comes up, there's always a legion of guys going: "But THEY do it TOO!"
I guess you ment in mainstream media, and in that case I don't know. American media is weird in it's portrayal of reality, so I guess it's possible.
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Asante said: Maybe they will do it with integrity and deliver a quality program.
I'm starting to think you're the site's biggest troll. Good work.
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starfire_xes said: When I graduated as an undergrad with a BSEE, Honors, military experience, 11 years living in a foreign country, and married to a foreigner, I got interview by a big fat black woman from HR at Cisco Systems (they came on campus)
The 'interview' for an engineering position, was a stream of questions like 'tell us about a time you worked with a diverse group' and 'do you have experience getting along with 'people of color' Not a single question about engineering, or any probing about my high skill level or resume.
When they were done they asked me if I had any questions so I asked what where they looking or fon campus and this bitch looks at me and says in a very condenscending tone 'We are looking or diversity....'
And I slipped and said, Oh, I thought you're look for engineers....'
and she screws up her face and says, smugly, well are looking or diversity. Not another word was said.
By the way, they didnt call me back.
I had a job interview a lot like that once. Didn't get the job either.
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