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#21920397 - 07/09/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was by far the most intense psychedelic experiance I've ever had. I vanished into nothing with my world disintegrating around me. That's amazing
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DMT is pretty great
What did you smoke from?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: JvF]
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: GoldenEye]
#21920424 - 07/09/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Questions
1. Was it white xtal or jungle spice ? 2. How long it last 3. Was this your extract? 4. Would you do it again within say the next hour ?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21920441 - 07/09/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TEAMSESH said: Questions
1. Was it white xtal or jungle spice ? 2. How long it last 3. Was this your extract? 4. Would you do it again within say the next hour ?
1.it was really fluffy white crystal from a cool friend. 2.not really sure, maybe 15-20min  3.no 4.i need a minute to process this one so, no
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The hype is real, ain't it
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: GoldenEye]
#21920466 - 07/09/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is it all hype? I'm sitting on 250g of acrb just can't figure what Tek I'll use.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21920490 - 07/09/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh it's everything everybody says it is times a thousand. you guys saved me. I was fading into nothing and felt the urge to jump up and grab my phone for help but just kept repeating what I read on here. "You took a drug, this is the drug taking its effect, you will come back" and eventually I snapped back into my body and just started to cry and smile
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH] 1
#21920494 - 07/09/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's unenglishable, mainly.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: GoldenEye] 3
#21920506 - 07/09/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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but is it spainishable?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21920540 - 07/09/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn dude. I'm fucking amazed
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21920543 - 07/09/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: ShroomyBudz]
#21920565 - 07/09/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is making me so antsy
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21920748 - 07/09/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow tomorrow is the day I extract!!
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21920830 - 07/09/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is definitely not all hype. Smoked DMT is probably one of the most intense things you will ever do.
I thought it was all hype. I heard the stories about entities, the elves, etc. I thought it was all a bunch of crackpot hippy shit.
It is not. Even after I had smoked it ~15-20 times, I thought the people talking about elves and stuff were full of it.
Then, I had a trip one time, and I was suddenly in a 'place' different from any realm I had been in on other DMT trips. There were many people there, and many of them turned and looked at me.
So insane...I usually don't see the people like I did on that trip, but I often hear them laughing after I hit it...
Shit is no joke...but it is a joke....it is both a joke and not a joke
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 2
#21920840 - 07/09/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it's safe to conclude, shits no fucking joke
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21921028 - 07/09/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TEAMSESH said: Is it all hype? I'm sitting on 250g of acrb just can't figure what Tek I'll use.
Tried and true: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=255&Number=13250607&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Willy Wonka]
#21921090 - 07/09/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck..I was all hyped up to do an extract. I got all the shit but I'm always busy doing other shit. I need to get my priorities straight.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: T-Funkadelic] 1
#21921171 - 07/09/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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T-Funkadelic said: Fuck..I was all hyped up to do an extract. I got all the shit but I'm always busy doing other shit. I need to get my priorities straight.
I love how this is on top of your priority list
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
#21921321 - 07/09/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My psychedelic priorities. Yes Sir..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21921354 - 07/09/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP how many hits did you take and how did you smoke it?
this other kid I know smoked the crystals and he said he liked the goo 10x more and didn't like crystal at all...I told him to keep trying because the crystals were getting great feedback. crystals tend to be more fluffy than the goo so maybe the kid didn't smoke/take big enough hits of the white dmt
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#21921369 - 07/09/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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We need a trip report 
I believe DMT is a organic transport device into another dimension.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21921377 - 07/09/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: OP how many hits did you take and how did you smoke it?
this other kid I know smoked the crystals and he said he liked the goo 10x more and didn't like crystal at all...I told him to keep trying because the crystals were getting great feedback. crystals tend to be more fluffy than the goo so maybe the kid didn't smoke/take big enough hits of the white dmt
Goo is definitely more potent than my powder, but WAY too harsh to really enjoy.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21921391 - 07/09/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just don't get how goo can be more potent than pure crystal
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21921584 - 07/09/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The goo also contains NMT. Which definitely adds to the experience.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: beta_knight]
#21921779 - 07/09/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont like DMT all that much, I find it to be too intense and doesn't last long enough for me to do the sort of healing work I like to do while tripping.
If you just like to be amazed or take a very brief tour of other dimensions, then you might like DMT but I am laying off it for the time being. For a little I was smoking it like crack.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21921848 - 07/09/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: OP how many hits did you take and how did you smoke it?
this other kid I know smoked the crystals and he said he liked the goo 10x more and didn't like crystal at all...I told him to keep trying because the crystals were getting great feedback. crystals tend to be more fluffy than the goo so maybe the kid didn't smoke/take big enough hits of the white dmt
Just put a tiny bit of bud at the bottom of my pipe and loaded up the bowl with the crystal. I took three hits but by the begining of the third I had fallen back and dropped the pipe
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Damn thats crazy I can picture you walking in on a group entity meeting . Where you alone while smoking maybe if you where around alot of people that day could have influenced the trip. I feel like everyone has something to put into the pot that have tripped after learning from other trippers and when someone that's been reading trip reports and has not ever tripped in his life and such it just influences his trip based on what he's read.
IDE like too see what kind of experience someone would have with absolutely no knowledge of psychedelics .
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Deviate]
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Deviate said: I dont like DMT all that much, I find it to be too intense and doesn't last long enough for me to do the sort of healing work I like to do while tripping.
If you just like to be amazed or take a very brief tour of other dimensions, then you might like DMT but I am laying off it for the time being. For a little I was smoking it like crack.
Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca.... DMT is so much better orally with Harmalas. Smoked DMT is interesting, but it is too short in duration and is pretty intense stuff so it doesn't leave much room to really get to know DMT, but DMT orally with Harmalas, it's the way to go for me personally.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Sabnock]
#21922807 - 07/10/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I dont like DMT all that much, I find it to be too intense and doesn't last long enough for me to do the sort of healing work I like to do while tripping.
If you just like to be amazed or take a very brief tour of other dimensions, then you might like DMT but I am laying off it for the time being. For a little I was smoking it like crack.
Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca.... DMT is so much better orally with Harmalas. Smoked DMT is interesting, but it is too short in duration and is pretty intense stuff so it doesn't leave much room to really get to know DMT, but DMT orally with Harmalas, it's the way to go for me personally.
what exactly is pharmahuasca?
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OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
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IDE like too see what kind of experience someone would have with absolutely no knowledge of psychedelics .
This happened to me. some kids showed up at the skate park me and my best friend were chilling at (he knew them I didn't) anyway, they were like we have some salvia. and me not knowing didn't think twice didn't see what they were loading and ripped a fatty salvia hit off a dry pipe with no prior knowledge of any drug aside from pot. and all I remember is seeing the leaf burn up then I looked up and the upper half of my vision was repeatedly stuttering upwards and I had the very distinct salvia feel/taste. that's about it. it was very very unexpected.. I had no idea what I was going into..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
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Pharma is when you take the active components of ayahuasca instead of the plant brew. So you put the harmala alkaloids and the DMT in a separate capsule and ingest them spaced 20 minutes up to an hour apart. Harmalas first.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
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and OP pharmahuasca is DMT with a pharmaceutical maoi
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
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trvptamine said: OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
So Do dab Riggs really work that well? I've been wondering about that. At what temperature does dmt get destroyed?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
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tryptkaloids said: and OP pharmahuasca is DMT with a pharmaceutical maoi
Not necessarily a pharmaceutical MAOI. The term is also used for using isolated RIMA's such as the Harmala mix from Syrian Rue extracts or Caapi extracts. Which is a lot safer than using a pharmaceutical MAOI as the diet restrictions for pharmaceutical MAOI's are no joke.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: GoldenEye]
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I have no experience with DMT however, I have not's of dabing experience the goo is most likely the part that is most dabable. I would say take that shit as hot as possible. red hot. unless you want to try low temp dabing  good luck trying to dab a crystal... who knows it might work if there's some oil on the dabber for it to stick to make sure it is hot as possible if you're trying it with crystal otherwise you might not get very good results
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tryptkaloids said: and OP pharmahuasca is DMT with a pharmaceutical maoi
Not necessarily a pharmaceutical MAOI. The term is also used for using isolated RIMA's such as the Harmala mix from Syrian Rue extracts or Caapi extracts. Which is a lot safer than using a pharmaceutical MAOI as the diet restrictions for pharmaceutical MAOI's are no joke.
thanks for that little tidbit! pretty important
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
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trvptamine said: OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
So Do dab Riggs really work that well? I've been wondering about that. At what temperature does dmt get destroyed?
Id also like to know this answer. I was considering starting athread about it. Erowid shows "boiling" temps and other sites have conflicting info. I couldnt find anything conclusive. Ideal DMT vaporization temperature.
Also, some cool dudes on here advised me to fold a business card with the dose and let it slide down onto the nail. Another method with a slightly heated dabber, the crystals will goo up and stick to it. 
I wanna try this and get the temp right with a temp gun, and a nice proper dose. Ive heard you can breakthrough with 25mg on a nice clean dab.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Universaleyeni]
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I've always wanted to try DMT... but don't know if I would be up for the intensity of it. I heard that the lazyman's tek is very simply, requires little supplies, & the yields look pretty good to me.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
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The intensity of it still has me working up the courage to visit again
Its really worth the beautiful indescribable experience IMO
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21923236 - 07/10/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How did you ingest it? Had you taken any other drugs that night? Do you remember much of what you saw, felt, thought, experienced?
When I smoked it while sober, it felt like a cross between shrooms and opium - but vaporising it on a very hectic acid trip took me to another dimension. I would be interested to plug it if I get my hands on it again.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Universaleyeni]
#21923350 - 07/10/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've seen your avatar before.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21923366 - 07/10/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first time I smoked DMT I smoked around 200mgs on top of some high grade marijuana.
It was the single most intense thing that has ever happened to me.
It changed me forever, I confronted my own death.
This was in 2012, and I'm still processing it.
I've smoked since,not in that high of a dose though, every time it blows me away, but I always put good time between my experiences. These days I'm more into ayahuasca-analogues.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
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Bigfeely123 said: I've always wanted to try DMT... but don't know if I would be up for the intensity of it. I heard that the lazyman's tek is very simply, requires little supplies, & the yields look pretty good to me.
Lazy mans TEK isn't that great for ACRB, due to NMT and plant lipids you need to defeat...lazy mans is great for MHRB.
For ACRB use cybs ATB hybrid salt tek or thicklights ACRB tek.
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I don't have a freezer that I could use. 1. it is always filled. 2. it doesn't get that cold.
Also is it better to use acacia confusa instead of mimosa hostilis?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
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Evaporate the naptha by placing it in a dish and blowing a fan over it, the crystals will form as the naptha evaporates. No need for a freezer. Though if you freeze precipitate you can reuse your solvent.
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...if you use those TEKS up until you have the saturated naptha they should work....then air evaporate your naptha.
As for freezing and thawing plant matter, it helps but is not essential...
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I read the Cybs' hybrid atb 'salt' tek but there are some things I do not understand. Maybe I am just overthinking it, IDK. I think I am going to make a thread with some questions that I have. I appreciate your recommendation for which TEK to use. Thank you.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123] 1
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Ha! It happens to everyone! You think you need help, cosmic law,is being broken, you think call the hospital, no the fire department , no call my mom, fuck! You eventually realize that is just you and the other now, and you have to face it like it or not.
I always interpret this as dying, the first time I smoked I REMEBER being overcome with a feeling of deja-vu, I was at the foot of a foggy mountain with dirt roads, I felt like a lost child, all my human memories seemed like a distant dream, foggy and hard to remember, I was the same consciousness but nothing from my past life really held on, I knew it was death, I had to confront my own death and come to terms with it....I couldn't tell if I was breathing or not....I remember taking breaths in and still being unsure if I was breathing....my chest hurt, I looked down and saw mantis claws in my chest, which tore me open, all my organs were torn out, I was going into shock when the giant divine mantoid made a floating orb of geometrically morphing color changing light, then another and another, it filled my body with these beautiful objects....then I was sealed back up and resurrected in Orange light...then I was being pushed through I membrane, I was being born....
In reality I smoked 200mgs yellow crystalline DMT on top of high grade marijuana, I took all the DMT in a single hit, curled up in a ball and began to cry...when I came out of it the pipe was still in my hand....the tears really added to the being born part at the end, I was wondering "why is my face wet" because I could not remeber crying...
There was SOOO much more that happened that I can't even put into words, after it first happened I couldn't say anything about it no matter how hard I tried, this was in 2012, and I'm just now able to translate the key parts into language...
It's amazing, every time I go back it's astonishing, but it's also terrifying, when you do DMT properly you should be in NO hurry to repeat the experiance....
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Thanks, though language does very poorly as a medium for communicating these experiences....
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You begin to fade away from your human fourm and eventually you do pass through this barrier into a completely different world of extreamily intense psychedelia that words just can't put justice too. In my experiance I could only say it felt as if I was dying and coming back reborn as a child seeing everything for the first time again
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trvptamine said: OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
So Do dab Riggs really work that well? I've been wondering about that. At what temperature does dmt get destroyed?
yeah man everytime ive tried dmt out of a rig rather than a dope bowl its been at least 10x as strong. I think its just cause i can inhale it all faster. I have no clue at what temperature it is destroyed though
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Deviate]
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Deviate said: I dont like DMT all that much, I find it to be too intense and doesn't last long enough for me to do the sort of healing work I like to do while tripping.
If you just like to be amazed or take a very brief tour of other dimensions, then you might like DMT but I am laying off it for the time being. For a little I was smoking it like crack.
Same, I'm not sure I would do it even if I got it for free
I got a LOT of p viridis and b caapi for free a hand ful of years back I still haven't tried
Ayahuasca seems more useful for healing than DMT
I don't just trip to get high, if I did I would take Salvia I want the longest learning experience, preferably 8+ hours
Lucid dreams are the greatest for me, and I bet it must be tied to DMT somehow out of body experience that lasts for hours
that's natural brain DMT probably... new universe that looks 99% like this one
except now there are no rules you can fly you can teleport you can crawl up in the air, like steps jump off buildings etc.
More fun than this reality, that's also the dangerous parts of it ;-) , can be hard to get back the more intense the trip the more dangerous too usually
High dose LSD is more dangerous usually than low dose for me Intense lucid dream is much more dangerous than non intense one
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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I believe a TRUE obe, lucid dream always gives you that feeling 'noooo i dont want to wake up, i dont want to go back to my body'
maybe DMT does that too?
I mean, you got wings and you can fly and go anywhere, you can do anything with your mind there and then you wake up trapped in a body again
you feel like you don't want to wake up, you want to prolong it
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21924090 - 07/10/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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10 times stronger fuck man if that got anymore intense I think I would just black out and have my brain explode. I couldn't even move from smoking it out of a piece
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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DMT can be very helpful, but it's more of a noetic shock when smoked. The most meaningful spiritual experience of my life happened on high dose smoked DMT.
Though I do feel the natives had it right when they stretched this out into a 6-8 hour experiance with an MAOI.
With DMT smoked the spiritual and psychological work all happens long after the experience itself, I still pull heavy and deep spiritual concepts as well as psychological revalations out of experiences from 2012. It seems that your almost able to retrieve something new every time you look back at it...it really is ten billion years of experience condensed into 20 minutes.
Smoked DMT confirmed for me that there is conscious existence after death, the "melting away" or "being dissolved into nothing" feeling that comes within the first 30 seconds I always interpret as dying, DMT dissolves boundaries, and the first to go is the boundary between the living and the dead, and once you cross over its hard not to be overcome by panic or astonishment, but if you stay calm and pay attention you can bring back some amazing information.
Smoked DMT answered a good deal of spiritual questions I had, it showed me that existence is multidimensional and populated by intelligent sentient beings, it showed me that there is conscious existence after death, I've been deep into the bardo, and when you encounter these strange beings in the after death they don't seem human, but the have such a love and care for humans and relate so well to humans you can only assume these are dead people, and the natives would say "of coarse these are dead people, this is what we mean when we say ancestors"
It makes sense that ayahuasca translates to "vine of the dead" because it does dissolve the barrier between the living and the dead. I think it also opens up interdimentional and interstellar travel. These people use san Pedro and acknowledge it's spiritual power (saint Peter holds the keys to heaven, when the Spanish forced the natives to give Christian names to the practices they named the San Pedro cactus saint Peter because the cactus holds the keys to heaven) but ayahuasca and DMT preparations have specific connection to the dead.
It's not for everybody, literally some people don't have 5ht2a and 5Ht2c receptors due to genetics, or they don't have many of these receptors, these are the people that can smoke DMT without it having profound effect or little effect at all at times. They altered lab mixes DNA so they lacked the gene for 5ht2a and 5ht2c Receptor production and sure enough when injected with DMT it had little to no effect. (This is just my speculation,but explains why a small percentage of people can use and abuse DMT without any profound effect.)
This probably factors into shamanic selection in tribal societies, they pick the person who is most receptive to this type of exploration. You have to be able to grasp the implications of the experience.
Entheogenic exploration isn't for everybody, we are the modern shamansand alchemists we practice magic derived through magical decoctions made from mother nature's selected plant messengers. We can travel between the stars and back and even travel beyond death and return, we can experience non-existence,which is a mindshare you can only conceive of if you have had it, your thus open to mental dimensions others blocked to non-shamans, your inner-space has expanded, inner-space is just as big as outter space, and it's exploration is for the brave, but most importantly this who can bring back meaningful gnosis.
When a shaman drinks yage and sings into a person's mid-section then says "you have stomach parasites" he claims it because he was able to see the sound waves of his voice bounce back from the body and was able to see inside the patients body, it's the extant of the jungle, he could not do this without his plant tools. When the village wants to know who stole the chickens or where the game will be for hunting the shaman can provide this information, in the 4th dimension of inner-space the past and the future all become accessible in certain ways, and the shaman does derive accurate information. ...believe these things or not these entheogens are my vehicle for inner space exploration. If you want to go to Iowa you need to get on a plane or drive in a car, you need a vehicle, if you want to cross the barrier between the living and the dead or travel between the stars you need entheogens...either way and for wither type of travel a vehicle is essential. An astronaut needs a rocket to get to space, the human body is not capable of everything on its own, there's no shame in using tools, in fact that's part of what makes us intelligent,these plants crafted beautiful tools for humans, and humans have time tested things like DMT and mescaline and proven them to be worthy and sacred vehicles into divine dimensions.
I'll stop now, because I know no amount of language can convince someone of these things, by please don't discredit DMT and ayahuasca, these are ancient, sacred, medicines to shamanic folks, and for modern inner-space explorers and spiritualists.
Why settle for exegesis when you can experience it first hand? Why read about the after-life when you can go there and return unharmed? There's more to DMTand Ayahuasca than there appears. DMT and ayahuasca are the only entheogens I rudely fear and respect.
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...it was supposed to say "altered lab mice DNA"
Sorry for all the typos, accidentally went on a rant when I'm really busy, I'm on a tablet, half the thing was written while in a moving car....so sorry about any typos
I'm too tired to re-read that and correct all the typos, but I will eventually....
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Well said brother I have some friends that really want to explore dmt but I'm not sure they are ready for it by any means. I know you can never be prepared but this person had trouble handling 2 grams of average cubensis I'm kind of sad I have no close friends (besides on the shroomery) that are willing to go into the deep dark confines of the mind and explore that what these beautiful compounds can do to improve your life and better you as a person.
Everytime I try to explain that these are learning tools and need to be respected just don't understand and just want to get "fucked up" which is really a shame. On 2 grams of cubensis my friend just kept repeating how he just wanted to be normal and that this is weird, he just couldn't let go. He's also one that abuses cocaine so somewhere in his mind he's trying to hide from something. I will try and explain to my friends how these experiences free your mind and allow you to accept the world how it is and to find beauty in the things you do have and all I get is this
I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
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I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
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Rebelutionsssss said: 10 times stronger fuck man if that got anymore intense I think I would just black out and have my brain explode. I couldn't even move from smoking it out of a piece
I may have exagerated a little but it is a lot more intense. Its hard for me to break through on the dmt by just smoking it out of a bowl. I only blast off when I dab it. Smoking it out of a bowl makes the world just look like its in 10808080p rather than 1080p and gives me an intense body high and maybe some slight closed eye visuals.
Also I think the reason why just smoking it out of a bowl doesnt give me profound experiences is because of the potency of the DMT around here. Its not crystal. More of a waxy type of substance
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Thanks, though language does very poorly as a medium for communicating these experiences....
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i thought u did great. I got that piece of trip in my imagination now
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Interesting I had an 'ancestor experience' on both mushrooms and LSD before
but how do we know it is really ancestors, it was certainly funny communication received and very wise too
I believe I maybe may have a parasite and a few people I know have too, that's what blocks our chakras/steal our energy it seems, changes our thoughts and actions yes
The only problem with DMT is it is so short
But I could imagine it first starting after the experience, like high dose LSD
Then the real trip comes 5-12 months after the LSD trip, in daily living, you just opened up your heart and soul
Ancestor trips may not just be harmless though, how do we know these 'dead beings' are really ancestors, they seem very eager to get access to ones body to be able to speak through it
Can be very dangerous maybe, maybe all psychedelics can be very dangerous for this reason, if the person has less strength than the spirits
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Ive been smoking goo and I have yet to blast off. Its more like a strong acid peak to me . But I like oral DMT a lot better its by far the best "drug" out there (its not a drug its a healing tool). I realy do like the goo as well though.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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I feel blessed I was able to blast off my first try. I think it was mostly because I've heard of people being disappointed in their first trips so I poured half a vial into the bowl and took as long of rips that I could. By my second I was loosing my grip on reality and was about to stop but I remember others say no matter how scared you get take that last hit. So I took one more and by the end I dropped my pipe on the floor and just feel back into nothing. It's the most amazing terrifing thing I've ever experienced
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Be careful about tripping alone without sitter
With Salvia you may drop your bong onto the floor and set your house on fire if unlucky, while unconscious for 5-25mins on Salvia
Many people drop their bong there, I'm not saying it will happen for you but just be careful
If I didn't try to prevent that that would happen for me on salvia, drop the bong , you just get an out of body experience, no reality left
Take severe precautions with psychedelics that take you out of body/remove reality like DMT,ayahuasca,salvia Not for everyone, not for every setting , but very worthwhile if respected
_many_ people have dropped their bong and broken it on Salvia
Anyway I would like to read a trip report, if you make one and write what you experienced in the trip and after the trip. Often worthwhile psychedelics change your world after the trip - that's where you start to learn
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
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Rebelutionsssss said: I feel blessed I was able to blast off my first try. I think it was mostly because I've heard of people being disappointed in their first trips so I poured half a vial into the bowl and took as long of rips that I could.
I never get enough I do these small extractions like 50 grams at a time and then I get one good dose (if im lucky). So putting more in a bowl never works for me ive been thinking of doing larger extractions but im worried ima fuck it up. I would rather just brew formosahuasca its really cool. Its not like DMT though its more mellow and focused its also more planed in my opinion free base seems like its all random but oral seems like its meant to be.
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Awesome you had a good first one. Most times people do it wrong and get nowhere, or get seriously spooked.
One of the last times I saw like this flamingo in a tuxedo spraying a hose of technicolor that would completely change in theme and design when I blinked my eyes, he had friends too but it's hard to describe without just going on foreverrrrr. Stuff can be weird.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Icon]
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I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Icon]
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.
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Rebelutionsssss said: Well said brother I have some friends that really want to explore dmt but I'm not sure they are ready for it by any means. I know you can never be prepared but this person had trouble handling 2 grams of average cubensis I'm kind of sad I have no close friends (besides on the shroomery) that are willing to go into the deep dark confines of the mind and explore that what these beautiful compounds can do to improve your life and better you as a person.
Everytime I try to explain that these are learning tools and need to be respected just don't understand and just want to get "fucked up" which is really a shame. On 2 grams of cubensis my friend just kept repeating how he just wanted to be normal and that this is weird, he just couldn't let go. He's also one that abuses cocaine so somewhere in his mind he's trying to hide from something. I will try and explain to my friends how these experiences free your mind and allow you to accept the world how it is and to find beauty in the things you do have and all I get is this
I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
Some people hate having their ontological structure pulled out from under them...it's like sky-diving, some may see it as a thrill while others would be scared to death... Regardless it's difficult for a person in panic to retrieve useful gnosis, so if you panic in these situations than maybe shamanic exploration is not for you....we all feel fear, it's how you handle yourself under pressure and intense panic that makes the difference, the first men to go to the moon were known for this "keeping calm in outrageous situations" quality and would have made excellent shamans...
I think these things have remained in such a peripheral position in culture because it's very hard to language the experience, articulation into human language structure is near impossible, so we need metaphor makers, those who can make others understand as close as possible with human language, these are the people we need taking these compounds....Because it's not for everybody, so the people who it is for have the responsibility of attempting to express these things to the non-users.
Be safe in your travels, and good luck.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
I first read about DMT when I was 13, I was into the beat writers and Buddhism, so one day a friend gives me a book called "the archaic revival" by terence mckenna. It set me on a quest to obtain this magical compound....it was over 10 years later that I first tried DMT...so you don't have to be in a hurry, it will eventually happen.
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I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
I first read about DMT when I was 13, I was into the beat writers and Buddhism, so one day a friend gives me a book called "the archaic revival" by terence mckenna. It set me on a quest to obtain this magical compound....it was over 10 years later that I first tried DMT...so you don't have to be in a hurry, it will eventually happen.
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Psychedelics may open up your soul records so you now remember your spirituality, but any psychedelic can do it
It's just that DMT fits better into the locks in the brain, mushrooms fit just about as good, LSD fits very well too
They may open up doors in your mind , which you may be thankful for or regretful over
I feel everyones energy now all the time, and also feel my own projections/past life karma, but I don't know my past lives
I feel that it must be that and that because of what I project onto others and of what I have a hard time letting go of. My attachments this life probably depend on my past life
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.

Try a little acceptance my friend
If you think DMT is more spiritual than anything you can achieve without the drug, you are deluding yourself and your soul
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Hmm I would say if you think spirituality is knowing what's best for other people you are doing it wrong.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: wigglewak]
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dmt can very well be the most spiritual experiance some people have. Just like the Indians that eat peyote for religious reasons, doesn't mean that their faith is fake.
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Everytime I try to explain that these are learning tools and need to be respected just don't understand and just want to get "fucked up" which is really a shame. On 2 grams of cubensis my friend just kept repeating how he just wanted to be normal and that this is weird, he just couldn't let go. He's also one that abuses cocaine so somewhere in his mind he's trying to hide from something. I will try and explain to my friends how these experiences free your mind and allow you to accept the world how it is and to find beauty in the things you do have and all I get is this
I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
Some people hate having their ontological structure pulled out from under them...it's like sky-diving, some may see it as a thrill while others would be scared to death... Regardless it's difficult for a person in panic to retrieve useful gnosis, so if you panic in these situations than maybe shamanic exploration is not for you....we all feel fear, it's how you handle yourself under pressure and intense panic that makes the difference, the first men to go to the moon were known for this "keeping calm in outrageous situations" quality and would have made excellent shamans...
I think these things have remained in such a peripheral position in culture because it's very hard to language the experience, articulation into human language structure is near impossible, so we need metaphor makers, those who can make others understand as close as possible with human language, these are the people we need taking these compounds....Because it's not for everybody, so the people who it is for have the responsibility of attempting to express these things to the non-users.
Be safe in your travels, and good luck.
-E. Borodin
Well said, psychedelics can benefit society best if it is people who are good at communicating/creating that take them
Some people are very good at communicating with society, if we could get a few of those to take psychedelics, our society would be permanently transformed very quickly
Imagine if politicians took psychedelics... , imagine if mayors took them
Transformation would be very quick then. Some people have natural talents in communication.
People who cannot communicate very good cannot benefit society much here, they can only trip for themselves
But like Mckenna said, it's our job to bring soul back to society We must find things worth bringing back, because the world is in lack of consciousness
And we must do it in a humble way, because recognizing that we recognize that we used to be too and we are still at the risk of it, if we live in a society that is in lack of spirit
We only feel good if society feels good, that's why we bring back
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dmt can very well be the most spiritual experiance some people have. Just like the Indians that eat peyote for religious reasons, doesn't mean that their faith is fake.
I'll use your own quote
"to define is to confine", if you define psychedelics as locks to the universe ,you're confined
if you define psychedelics as the only spiritual experience possible, you're confined
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.

Try a little acceptance my friend
If you think DMT is more spiritual than anything you can achieve without the drug, you are deluding yourself and your soul
I have had extremely spiritual experiences without psychs...but the funny thing was, whenever I had such experiences, I was under a psychotic time-period in my life that was originally caused by psychedelics.
So the bottom line really is....drugs are mans only honest opportunity for spiritual experiences.
yes...I know...someone can have a dream or a NDE that can trigger a spiritual experience because spiritual is subjective...but IMHO the experiences drugs give blow the others out of the water.
I believe its because are body is made of drugs so we need to introduce a key to our locks in the mind to trigger the spiritual experience. Without the drug...we just have the natural ones bouncing around doing thangz its used to doing.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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When did I say it's the only spiritual experiance possible? For some people it could be psychedelics, others it could be hundreds of different things
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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So the bottom line really is....drugs are mans only honest opportunity for spiritual experiences.
That is extremely infected thoughts
Watch your thoughts is my advice, how much do you trip?
Man is already spiritual, that's how we are born, we just forget Drugs are not required...
If you think drugs are required they have usually infected your mind That's what weed does, now weed's the greatest That's what psychedelics do, now they're the greatest That's what cocaine does, now lets try a bit cocaine, its so great?
Drugs infect your mind, without you being aware
Real spirituality doesn't need drugs, but you can have a spiritual experience on a drug I just disagree a lot with you saying it's not possible without a drug, that's the stupidiest idea I've heard in a long time
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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But then wouldn't you be confined to your unprogram?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: So the bottom line really is....drugs are mans only honest opportunity for spiritual experiences.
That is extremely infected thoughts
Watch your thoughts is my advice, how much do you trip?
Man is already spiritual, that's how we are born, we just forget Drugs are not required...
If you think drugs are required they have usually infected your mind That's what weed does, now weed's the greatest That's what psychedelics do, now they're the greatest That's what cocaine does, now lets try a bit cocaine, its so great?
Drugs infect your mind, without you being aware
Real spirituality doesn't need drugs, but you can have a spiritual experience on a drug I just disagree a lot with you saying it's not possible without a drug, that's the stupidiest idea I've heard in a long time
did you read my whole post?
I said spiritual experiences are subjective and anyone can have a spiritual experience without psychs.
but psychs are the best way and most efficient. If you haven't tried a psychedelic solely because you feel like you are already spiritual...then I truly believe you are dead wrong.
that's what I mean when I say psychs are the only way. Because without them, you are missing something.
so let me rephrase my bottom line..
bottom line- if someone claims to be spiritual with spiritual knowledge of the true divine, and you haven't tried a psychedelic, then you are full of shit.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I can have a spiritual experience in 100s of ways , no drugs needed
I can have it on drugs too , but I wouldn't count on it , they often distort my mind/ego
But apparently you know 'the best way' of being spiritual, with drugs you say
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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spirituality without psychs is a scam.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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"Drugs infect your mind" "you can have a spiritual experiance on a drug"
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: I can have a spiritual experience in 100s of ways , no drugs needed
I can have it on drugs too , but I wouldn't count on it , they often distort my mind/ego
But apparently you know 'the best way' of being spiritual, with drugs you say
So I should believe a preacher when he tells me hes a man of God because he has some cool spiritual dreams and reads the bible?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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or if I want to make my statement less harsh...I can change it to:
"Spirituality without psychs is spirituality with training wheels. Its for children."
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Glad you enjoyed your DMT experience dude.
Try it from a dab rig next time. I vape my DMT in between 350-400 degrees on my nail. Just do a standard low-temp dab with a carb cap. I tend to like to suck 2-3 good DMT dabs down before I let myself go to space. You can fight it if you try, but after a certain point you just have to let go. So I just get my pile of crystal ready, heat up my nail, rip it. And then it all over again while I am holding my hit. Exhale and repeat until you can't hit it anymore. Everyone else I do it with needs me to help them, but I can always do it for myself no problem.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I can have it on drugs too , but I wouldn't count on it , they often distort my mind/ego
But apparently you know 'the best way' of being spiritual, with drugs you say
So I should believe a preacher when he tells me hes a man of God because he has some cool spiritual dreams and reads the bible?
I agree that psychedelic experiences tend to weed out the frauds and TV preachers. But...
Not everyone who has a spiritual experience without drugs believes in the bible. I almost died in 2006. I talked to an entity that called herself "god". Yes it was a "she". I was literally out of my body. I could see my body in third person, yet I was still viewing the world from my own eyes. I could go into great detail here (which I won't), but the point is, I was not spiritual at all before then. That experience was the single most powerful moment I have experienced in my life. I chose to come back to earth and continue living my life. All without drugs. It was very real. More real the drug induced experiences in fact.
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Yup same here
I had a spontaneous out of body experience about 24 years ago or so, I still remember it like a minute ago in full detail and all
Just left my body, no cravings, nothing, floated towards the ceiling then out the window in full daylight
I have since had 100s of lucid dreams flying around in my dreams as well, and they are as valuable for me as any trip
There are so many ways, there is not just 1 way
I believe they teach that in church too, because a christian that doesn't accept other's beliefs is not a true christian
Out of body is the most meaningful to me, nothing comes even close, that's why I remember it after 24 years Only had 1 in my life like that..
But many experiences have been quite close though, there are many ways to remember
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: daytripper05]
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lessismore said: I can have a spiritual experience in 100s of ways , no drugs needed
I can have it on drugs too , but I wouldn't count on it , they often distort my mind/ego
But apparently you know 'the best way' of being spiritual, with drugs you say
So I should believe a preacher when he tells me hes a man of God because he has some cool spiritual dreams and reads the bible?
I agree that psychedelic experiences tend to weed out the frauds and TV preachers. But...
Not everyone who has a spiritual experience without drugs believes in the bible. I almost died in 2006. I talked to an entity that called herself "god". Yes it was a "she". I was literally out of my body. I could see my body in third person, yet I was still viewing the world from my own eyes. I could go into great detail here (which I won't), but the point is, I was not spiritual at all before then. That experience was the single most powerful moment I have experienced in my life. I chose to come back to earth and continue living my life. All without drugs. It was very real. More real the drug induced experiences in fact.
But I can also say that not all people that don't use psychs that consider themselves spiritual has had an experience like yours.
of course there are situations like yours but its VERY rare. dying and coming back to life is far from common 
so I mean technically its possible to have a spiritual experience just as great if not greater than a psychedelic experience but its very rare. There are no dreams that can compare to psychs. There are no anything...besides maybe literally dying and coming back to life.
Im talking about the average experiences that non-psych users consider spiritual.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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It's pretty simple to me and it's pretty logical to me. In the most simple terms I view it like so:
Aall of life's emotions, observations, and experiences (psychedelic or not) are really just a vast network of neurons firing of the brain to pain the illusion of what is happening in our reality. Various experience can trigger various emotional responses, some with incredible regularity. We all have things we can do that increase joy, happiness, sadness, and sorrow. Drugs do the same thing, except in an even more reliable fashion. Drugs consistently make the same set of neurons fire to produce a familiar experience.
It's my belief that since it's all neurochemistry, it's possible that we can experience the effects of these drugs without ever taking them. If the one in a million chance occur in just the right way, people leave their bodies and experience incredible things. Other experience literally have led to super human strength with adrenaline. All without drugs. Now, this has nothing to do with spirituality.
But if we can conclude that if our brains are capable of producing very real yet seemingly impossible scenarios, then certainly people can experience the same level of profoundness in terms if spirituality from their experiences.
I think it's more common than people realize. It's our culture and society that suppresses free thought and critical thinking. Even people on this forum do it often. Yet, if we lived in a society where people were open hearing about these experiences from others without getting ridiculed, then it would seem more common. I bet children have these experiences all the time. Yet adults just tell them it's "their imagination".
Hard to make the point in text without using spoken words and emotion. But I think you can get the idea of the point I am trying to make.
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Happy to hear you finally got to experience the spirit molecule! Remarkable to think such a substance is produced in our brains daily.
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I love DMT. I'm definitely a "believer" in the experience. People can say that it's all hallucinatory and what not. But as a supreme skeptic in everything, I firmly believe the DMT can take people to other worlds and dimensions. Real shit like astral projection, remote viewing, seeing through other people's eyes, reliving other peoples memories, going back to memories form infancy, feeling death over and over again. Crazy shit.
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Is it really produced in our brains? Has there been any studies to prove this?
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The feeling that my mind and body where dying was the strangest thing I've ever felt. I totally get what people are talking about now when they talk about breaking through that barrier.
And yea dmt is in tons of plants and is said to be released in our brains before death
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I think the receptors are used a whole lot in dreaming. Did you feel tired after? When I land back in reality I have this "just got laid" sleepy afterglow. Or I'm scared shitless, that's happened too but always with the sleepy satisfaction of being back together.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
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We are not totally sure if its released during death and if its even the chemical responsible for dreaming. But if we had to guess, we would say it is. DMT has all the signs.
But we do know DMT was found in the pineal gland of rats. This leads us to believe it is indeed in the pineal glands of human beings.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I just bought some Rue. The Caapi extract I had never did the job. Time for another try in the oral realm. Soonish.
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Rebelutionsssss said: The feeling that my mind and body where dying was the strangest thing I've ever felt. I totally get what people are talking about now when they talk about breaking through that barrier.
And yea dmt is in tons of plants and is said to be released in our brains before death
Well it sounds like a totally regular egodeath, both your first post and this one
That's how it often is, fear of death, annihilation, nothingness
But it truly can be life changing the first time, or even every time The interesting thing also is that egodeath is not limited to psychedelics, people have experienced it in various states through time
Now a good question, was the world disappearing in front of your eyes just chemical reactions in your brain? , due to lack of input/rerouting of input
Egodeath is basically like getting the carpet slipped away from under your feet, not ones body, not in the room anymore
The interesting thing is often what it brings after the trip itself , it may change people for years or for the rest of their life
Also if it was egodeath you experienced, you can often get there on 4-5g mushrooms or 200-250ug LSD (real 200-250ug , not the fake weak blotters that are in most places)
Why is it a strange feeling that mind and body is dying? That happens everytime to me on 3.5g mushrooms , what's different compared to mushrooms there?
It feels like you're really dying, should I call 911 etc. ? you always ponder that
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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For me I think It was being propelled 0-1000 so fast.i usually won't ego death on 3.5 grams but when I do it's a little more easier to handle because I have some time to get my grip before I'm thrown completely into the abyss. It's never easy to go completely out for me but dmt was just different. I don't know
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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My trips changed, but I also got some extremely strong LSD lately, 1 hit would just remove the world in front of my eyes, 220ug they're tested at
so couldn't understand what this body was, why I kept merging with the walls
I tried taking a shower, but merged with the walls/unconscious part of it
that's the usual feeling, merging with walls and room, suddenly gone
and with this hit I was just gone suddenly , no warning before
Learning to let go, and a high dose too, can do that suddenly The interesting thing is what changed when you return, damn, a lot usually
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Next day will usually look quite interesting.. ;-)
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21928894 - 07/11/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea LSD gives me such an amazing after glow. Everything's just perfect in the world for days after
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Rebelutionsssss said: The feeling that my mind and body where dying was the strangest thing I've ever felt. I totally get what people are talking about now when they talk about breaking through that barrier.
And yea dmt is in tons of plants and is said to be released in our brains before death
Here is my analogy that I use to try to explain it to people and others trying to go deeper. Since I died in 2006, I can go super deep, almost too deep. You've heard my posts on here and we eat the same L and that shit just fucks me up.
So my analogy is to compare leaving your body in the same way one would compare putting strange objects into their body. So think of a sword swallower. The normal person would puke and gag and could never put their finger down their throat, let alone a sword, a billiard ball, or anything they can fit down there.
Leaving ones body is a very same reflex or feeling as the gag reflex. I am still learning how to train my mind to remove this reflex so I can leave my body on command. It's definitely a work in progress and not something I can control, but I am 100% confident I am onto the "feeling" and that this gag reflex is real. The closest thing to this feeling that we have in words in "death". But we don't really die of course, but it's the same feeling. So to me, what that feeling is, is our metaphysical self leaving our physical self.
That's my theory anyway...
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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I can leave my body on command many days successfully
www.ld4all.nl www.dreamviews.com
train that every week and you will get it work after a few weeks max, the key is training every week lucid dreaming + dream journal
I just lay down in bed, don't move for 45-60mins, dont hang onto thoughts then I wake up in my dream, and realize I'm dreaming , wake up where I went to bed, but now I can fly / leave my body
there's no word to how much mindblowing just 1 lucid dream can be, I had a semi lucid dream tonight where I practiced flying , didn't realize I was dreaming though
I've been practicing lucid dreaming for at least 16-18 years now or so , it needs lots of practice with practice you can learn to lucid dream most nights, the more time I spend on it the more I have
3-5 per month or more is not unusual, vs 0-3 normally per year , so training it helps a lot
lucid dreaming is a free trip, loved it since 4-5 years old or so
This method also helps you remember all your dreams, you go from recalling 0 dreams to 3 each night often (dream journal is essential) It can be very fun to remember your dreams, feels like a free trip to me, mindblowing each time, in unexplainable ways - especially the dreams you fly in
The methods that work for me are: WILD and WB2B , both work very good
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Honestly... I do not like that feeling of dying. I have gone into fight or flight mode because of it before on mushrooms. How do you guys deal with that? I feel like it is the body's natural instinct/response to try to stay alive when you are faced with death. I have done salvia more than a couple times & those times were the most intense psychedelic experiences of my life (out of any substance) yet I did not feel like I was dying. The feeling is incredibly hard to explain because at that point I couldn't feel anything, let alone even know what a feeling was. I just felt like nothing.
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Dude you can write another 4,800 posts about your dreams, OBE's, 4g mushroom trips, dissociative salvia trips, etc. But you're naive for thinking they're the same. No one's claiming that DMT is best at anything but anyone who's had a breakthrough can tell you it's much more than a lucid dream or astral projection or any other sober or psychedelic experience you've had before.
I appreciate you taking the devils advocate approach but where do you come off telling other people what their DMT experience means and how you've had the same experience your own way? You haven't. Flying around your dream bedroom is a joke compared to a DMT breakthrough. Sure, ego death was a term before DMT and isn't exclusive to it. But the way you've been describing it does not sound like the ego death I've experienced and seen others describe from DMT. You shouldn't assume that your definitions of these mystical states are relevant to other people.
I think when you ever do try DMT you will be surprised by the differences and similarities. But they are not generic experiences. There's a reason most people find difficulty describing their breakthroughs in words. Your ignorant attempt to explain it through other experiences is disrespectful to the raw purity of something that truly doesn't compare.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21929588 - 07/11/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In a lucid dream you can only master your reality by facing your fear
So if people are trying to kill you, you must face them to be able to fly around
Same goes for tripping, if you think you're dying, you must accept death
Same goes for this reality - if you are afraid of being ridiculed by others you don't master your reality by running away from ridicule, but by facing it (there are lots of ways of getting ridiculed if not acting like everyone else in this society)
It's most important to be yourself, nothing else is important
That's why I don't read trip reports so often, I usually just trip and see what happens If I should recommend something I would recommend mushroom chocolates, they are easier to trip on, often give good trips for me, and they work more intensely - so 3.5g could be plenty for most people likely
Mushroom chocolate tek: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19168153 No nausea and no taste at all
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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I don't disagree with anything else that you are saying because I really have no opinion on it. BUT dying in a dream is waaayyy different from thinking your dying in a trip.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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My breakthroughs have given me a much deeper appreciation for all those techniques and experiences you bring up, and I regularly enjoy them and support them. But I would never mistake them for what I experienced in the 5 minute windows of my vaped DMT trips. Sorry man, but you're extremely foolish to be so stuck up about your ignorance to other people's experiences.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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we're talking about DMT breakthroughs not a medium mushroom trip. I would say 3.5 grams of strong mushrooms just scratches the surface of a full blown DMT experiance. I've been tripping on mushrooms and LSD for a pretty long time and I have to say DMT is by far the most powerful psychedelic I've ever used. It's something no one can explain
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we're talking about DMT breakthroughs not a medium mushroom trip. I would say 3.5 grams of strong mushrooms just scratches the surface of a full blown DMT experiance. I've been tripping on mushrooms and LSD for a pretty long time and I have to say DMT is by far the most powerful psychedelic I've ever used. It's something no one can explain
Well I have had the looping for 8 hours on a 3.5g chocolate trip , many times
Death loop , but maybe that's just a bad trip
Nothing is more intense than the fear of death , right? That's the ultimate fear
But in terms of visuals sure DMT is more intense than shrooms, shrooms give mindfuck openeyed visuals are not always their strong side , they're better for closed eyes
You will just be surprised how intense 3.5-4g chocolates really can be if you try, 4g I can't even describe with words how intense that was 4g is just insanity... No words can describe, so many colors, I think I saw colors in my mind and surfaces I have never seen before
Mushrooms can be very visual, and technically they are DMT too - very similar to DMT chemically
Some require big dose, some can trip on 2.5-3.5g , I trip fine on 3.5g
I for sure wouldn't take over 5g chocolates, if you ever take 4g chocolates with powder in I'm sure you know what I mean, it usually scares the person away from dosing higher So many visuals, so intense mindfuck no words can describe
And I've been taking high doses of LSD for a long while , always 3+ hits, but 4g chocolates is not a weak mindfuck
It may take years to process a 4g trip , just like a DMT trip
No psychedelic is better than the other one , that is what I'm saying , and I don't need to try DMT to know this
You can trip in many ways , there are many ways to the transcendental mind , benefits/disadvantages to each
A real psychedelic doesn't leave you longing for more if you do it right, and mushrooms I consider a real psychedelic
People who take 4-5g don't usually crave more in the trip , many people trip on 2-3.5g
4-5g territory is something that is usually not repeated so often, as it fragments the mind into 1000s pieces and may take years to process afterwards
4-5g chocolates will give you such a strong trip you won't go there again, unless you have already blown your receptors by dosing 2-3x a week With no tolerance and empty stomach, this dose will make even Mckenna satisfied
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Sorry man didn't mean to derail your thread. I apologize bro.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours? And three hits of acid really isn't that much man, I would say higher doses are in the 500ug range.
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Rebelutionsssss said: How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours?
Well 5-8 hours, I dunno how long, time is basically nonexistant when you loop
Looping is usually the most intense parts of my trips, be it LSD/shrooms , looping takes you to the edge of your mind (show you your fear directly)
So as you will hopefully see, intensity is not always a good measure for a trip
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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I'm sorry dude and don't take this the wrong way but if a loop is the most intense psychedelic hallucination you've had you aren't really that experienced in psychedelics
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There are other things to psychedelics than visuals
You don't get it
Maybe you should just take a spraybottle and paint your eyes green, then you'll get an intense trip
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uhhh ok?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Rebelutionsssss said: How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours?
Well 5-8 hours, I dunno how long, time is basically nonexistant when you loop
Looping is usually the most intense parts of my trips, be it LSD/shrooms , looping takes you to the edge of your mind (show you your fear directly)
So as you will hopefully see, intensity is not always a good measure for a trip
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
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Bigfeely123 said: I don't disagree with anything else that you are saying because I really have no opinion on it. BUT dying in a dream is waaayyy different from thinking your dying in a trip.
Please explain , I've been wondering about this for many years now since I jumped out of a building in a dream
That dream alone has taken me 10 years to reintegrate , still remember it like yesterday
It was NOT pleasant , as unpleasant as any bad trip, fear for ones life for hours
You seem to assume dream reality is less real than here, and can not cause bad trips
I don't assume such a thing, people can get insane just by doing 'reality checks', they can also get stuck in their dreams and lose a part of themselves I know - lose their core being, because I've tried it many years ago
Then psychedelics helped heal what I had lost, dreams are not less dangerous to the mind than reality/trips it seems
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Scarring to the mind due to bad dreams is called 'sleep paralysis' , people remember it for their whole life. I still remember mine when I was 11, I'm 30 now
Dreams can scar the psyche exactly as much as bad trips/this reality
Dangerous self reflection
Self reflection is dangerous to the soul/mind that is not evolved enough/who is not ready
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream
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DMT showed me a side to reality I never knew was possible. I used to smoke quite a lot of it, multiple times a week, sometimes multiple times a day. Now I limit it to around once every six months. It is the most amazing substance I have ever consumed besides oxygen and water.
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Rebelutionsssss said: We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream
When was the last time you had a conscious dream?
You don't seem too experienced in lucid dreaming since you say what you say there
In lucid dreams you are sure you are awake at first, you wake up where you went to bed, you walk around, you go to school or work
Then suddenly you find out you can jump out of the window and fly (at work) or at school
So if you are about to die in a lucid dream, you think it's 100% real you will do anything to escape
It will be the most unpleasant memory in your mind your whole life
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I lived on 2nd floor, someone came running up the stairs, cops wanting to shoot me I climed up on my window, ready to jump
They kicked in my door, I jumped
Felt 100% real, I was sure I was awake.... but my action performed themselves, else I probably wouldnt have jumped
It felt like being in the situation and watching it on camera at the same time, so surreal and yet so real...
Felt more real than this reality , could feel the window frame, had to crawl up to jump etc.
Had to fly away from that being in the air for hours too..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Rebelutionsssss said: We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream
When was the last time you had a conscious dream?
You don't seem too experienced in lucid dreaming since you say what you say there
In lucid dreams you are sure you are awake at first, you wake up where you went to bed, you walk around, you go to school or work
Then suddenly you find out you can jump out of the window and fly (at work) or at school
So if you are about to die in a lucid dream, you think it's 100% real you will do anything to escape
It will be the most unpleasant memory in your mind your whole life
If you had a proper DMT breakthrough im sure you wouldn't be tooting that horn of yours.
DMT breakthroughs cannot be compared to any kind of lucid dream.
if I was wrong, then I would be spending my free-time researching dreams and obsessing over them instead of DMT
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Sorry bill but the truth is that hallucinogens are shortcuts for what meditation can bring us with practice. The same goes for dreams. If you had the obedience, you could train yourself to break through the bonds of our reality without psychedelics. I still think DMT is one of the greatest substances every to grace our existence, though.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said: If you had a proper DMT breakthrough im sure you wouldn't be tooting that horn of yours. DMT breakthroughs cannot be compared to any kind of lucid dream. if I was wrong, then I would be spending my free-time researching dreams and obsessing over them instead of DMT 
You would have to experience them both to know..
Have you experienced a lucid dream breakthrough ? - I have, several times Nothing comes even close, only out of body does for me
Doesn't mean DMT is not nice and all, but your mind is the ultimate virtual reality
Psychedelics usually distort reality a bit, but in Lucid Dreams you got full control
It can be very valuable to learn, most people who LD don't need any drugs, they can trip each night no words can do it justice, it's unbeliveable
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Bill we've been doing it wrong our whole lives. instead of growing psilocybin and extracting dmt we should just be sleeping
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said: Sorry bill but the truth is that hallucinogens are shortcuts for what meditation can bring us with practice. The same goes for dreams. If you had the obedience, you could train yourself to break through the bonds of our reality without psychedelics. I still think DMT is one of the greatest substances every to grace our existence, though.
Psychedelics are a part of reality. DMT is a part of you. You are in fact made out of drugs. Shortcuts are good sometimes you don't really always take the long way around do you? I guess if you only take the long way around shortcuts seem unfair to you
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Rebelutionsssss said: Bill we've been doing it wrong our whole lives. instead of growing psilocybin and extracting dmt we should just be sleeping 
I guess so, ay?

oh and by the way...if psychs are a shortcut, then so is anything else. Don't blame the dr00gz because they are more effective. Don't hate the playa hate the game, fellas.
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I believe I said that DMT is one of my favorite substances. I was merely stating a fact about psychedelics and the human psyche. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Sometimes i wonder if DMT was made by aliens.
The experience is just so other-worldly.
Do you guys believe DMT was created by aliens?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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No, I think our world is just that amazing. Evolution and adaption of plants and animals alongside each other over millions of years.
So much had to conglomerate on so many levels for existence to follow the path it has, and it's mind-blowing just to think about.
Just as mind blowing as it to see for the first time that our reality is not exactly what it seems. That there is a veil to be lifted and a whole new existence to be explored.
There are a multitude of other realities and dimensions beyond the veil, our brains just trap us in this one
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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I think we are aliens and we created DMT to be able to revisit the sacred knowledge of ourselves in this body
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21930528 - 07/11/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In a way we are aliens, if there is other life, then we are alien to them. To the point though, if what you say is true, then we would be responsible for the creation of all things that contain DMT or similar compounds, which is damn near everything. I like the idea though.
I do believe DMT is a portal to other dimensions or realities, though. The experience is definitely otherworldly. Why is it here? I don't know, ask the plants.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Maybe us humans aka "the aliens" hid the DMT inside plants, like an ancient time capsule.
And now we are rediscovering it.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Our ancestors placed them into the plants as a commutation tool to the afterlife.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow] 2
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Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.
Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.
So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self.
I need to stop doing drugs.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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It's becoming more mainstream since "the spirit molecule" came out and since joe rogan made it a feature subject on his podcast, but it's been used by humans as long as any other hallucinogen in forms of aya, yopo, etc. and was well known in the 60s. People who used it and extracted it and all else were just really good at keeping it low key and off radar. Times are changing.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Whoa, i think youre on to something 
What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.
Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!!
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Whoa, i think youre on to something 
What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.
Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! 
You can have an alien visitation on any psychedelic if you take enough, and also in lucid dreams ;-)
It will feel as real as this reality each time
Real is just a trigger in your brain, take high enough dose and it always feels real, and LDs always feel 100% real
The alien might be yourself though, all seems to be one in the end So if you see aliens it says something about yourself ?;-P
If you are into interdimensional travel when Salvia works very good too, is easier to get than DMT, and takes you extremely high, no room left each time Maybe too high...
It seems psychedelics are only useful if we can integrate them - what you do in this world is what counts
You can act as a receiver from your higher self with these molecules, but that isn't alien at all, that is your soul You can also do it without the molecules afterwards, when you have tripped a bit , crystals can help change your frequency, as can relaxing
Your higher self knows answers in most situations to what you should do and why things happen, can be very spiritual, it's like direct modem connection to your soul if you can relax enough to connect
Can be done in meditation too/you often feel that connection directly afterwards meditation, your higher self just knows stuff
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I like to think of it in the way they explain parallel universes. They exist at the same time we do, even at the same place in time and space just layered one on top of the other, meshed into one.
But our consciousness only allows us to view this one we currently reside in and there is a constant "veil" that stops us from seeing the other realities and going bonkers. Like a schizophrenic kinda.
But DMT breaks down that veil and allows you to travel in between the layers.
In the multiverse, anything is possible; if you can think it, it exists somewhere in the multiverse which is why some trips may be outside the norm of this reality and you may see entities or whatever you want to call them, but they're just beings in a parallel universe. Just a thought.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Whoa, i think youre on to something 
What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.
Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! 
quite possible 
its like sobriety is fishing with no bait. When we do psychs, we are using top-notch quality bait and hope we get a bite. If you "let go" once you get that bite...you can reel that sucker in and weigh it, inspect it, and throw it back into the sea of forgetfulness
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Maybe there are no parallel dimensions 
They could just be from your neurotransmitters changing potential, so now you perceive colors differently , and touch differently - so the brain makes a new space to suit the new input
Doesn't necessarily mean the space is there
Just like an OBE doesn't necessarily mean the space is there, OBEs can be scientifically induced and often happen in anesthesia to people
The question is always , is it real or not real?
The brain will ALWAYS think it is real, first it thinks THIS reality is real, then it thinks trips are real
But are they? - real seems to just be a switch
On Salvia I can believe people in mid air visiting me (people I know) are real, but they weren't there
So obviously hallucinations?
Or maybe hacking the automated simulation?
Real is what you perceive as real, that's the truth , anything can be real if you can imagine it
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Whoa, i think youre on to something 
What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.
Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! 
quite possible 
its like sobriety is fishing with no bait. When we do psychs, we are using top-notch quality bait and hope we get a bite. If you "let go" once you get that bite...you can reel that sucker in and weigh it, inspect it, and throw it back into the sea of forgetfulness 
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Well what is smoking cannabis Skunk then?
the shaman's favorite, speaking to spirits, you can get a very visual trip with that too and see spirits
doesn't mean it is safe though
the bait may be more than you can pull in, it may pull YOU in
cannabis can be equally psychoactive as psychedelics to me, and all psychedelics I've tried I've seen spirits on, incl cannabis
they may open you to the spirit world, but it may be very unsafe
lucid dreaming isn't safe either, neither is LSD/mushrooms , there is always the risk of a bad trip , and they usually involve spirits for me
to be safe we must prepare a lot
if the spirits are not always benevolent, then are the aliens you talk about that?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Hey man sometimes stuff like this is best left to ignore. I personally believe this stuff is true. But facinating on entities and spirits is dangerous and ever under circumstances where people know what they are doing I still don't think it is useful for us in this dimension. If I die happy around family and friends I'll have gotten more than I could ever ask from the universe so I don't feel the need to know everything and have all sorts of helper debts to things I've encountered. Yes those things can help and hurt, but they are not as dense as we are in this dimension and in the next we still can do what we want so why should we care. The helper ones are indistinguishable from intuitive knowledge and do not need or want recognition.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: Well what is smoking cannabis Skunk then?
the shaman's favorite, speaking to spirits, you can get a very visual trip with that too and see spirits
doesn't mean it is safe though
the bait may be more than you can pull in, it may pull YOU in
cannabis can be equally psychoactive as psychedelics to me, and all psychedelics I've tried I've seen spirits on, incl cannabis
they may open you to the spirit world, but it may be very unsafe
lucid dreaming isn't safe either, neither is LSD/mushrooms , there is always the risk of a bad trip , and they usually involve spirits for me
to be safe we must prepare a lot
if the spirits are not always benevolent, then are the aliens you talk about that?
man to me it sounds like you haven't really jumped in deep enough with psychedelics. You're trying to compare DMT with dreaming and smoking cannabis.... Until you actually try DMT you'll never know the unspeakable things it shows you. I'm not saying what you experiance is not amazing but compared to other things in this world it just doesn't campare. And yes I've lucid dreamed before and although it does seem like reality you just wake up in your bed. There's something different about watching the world you think you know leave you as you enter another.
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Did you know you can flashjump in lucid dreams, wake up in another dream?
you think you awoke, but then it was a a false awakening, youre still dreaming
:-D
it messes with your mind like that , so you go to school, but then youre still dreaming and can fly lol
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931160 - 07/11/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Teleporting is also pretty normal there... sometimes you can also lose reality in them if you face your fear you may just lose consciousness
Then you are suddenly in a new dream.... mindfuck
Same happens if you die, you just teleport to a new dream sometimes
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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Breaking down in tears is fully normal with any level5, do lsd, do shrooms , doesn't matter
Happens each time for me ?;-)
The mind doesn't like having its reality shattered, that's why you break down
But is it the emotions that makes it more intense? That's a weird way of saying it is intense Or is it the love that does?
Maybe lucid dreams are not as good to learn in as psychedelics can be, I don't learn so much from them, I learn after them
Laugh,cries and tears, that's the shaman level trip (level4-5 on shrooms), the trip few dare go to repeatedly
But I just think I like lucid dreams better than psychedelics, because you are not overemotional Overemotional is not a good thing always, it is actually not pleasant It feels much nicer to be over your emotions, and over your thoughts , and control them
Than to be controlled...
That's why at some point in your evolution you will dismiss the DMT and find meditation will suit you much better, that's the natural spiritual evolution. Drugs can be fun, but they will not help you stably in your life through life.
If we cling onto the drugs instead of learning, we cling onto our past attachments
Sometimes learning is not pleasant, and we must go the unpleasant route, the route that doesn't show us it all in our face, but we must earn truth with hard work. Maybe there's no shortcut to truth?
We're back to normal next day, no wiser than before.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 3
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I was enjoying this thread very much but damn, this guy lessismore really is missing something. Sounds like a kid as he/she references school constantly.
I actually made account to post here just been a reader for years cause of how annoyed I had gotten. Please do not try to compare the experience from cannabis to other psychadelics especially dmt? You shouldn't be allowed to post anymore or something.. take your lucid dream shit elsewhere
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: shpongled26]
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So turns out I was able to simply ignore him after creating my own account.. Should have done this long ago haha. Problem solved ^^
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: shpongled26]
#21931238 - 07/11/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Meditation will suit me better? You have no idea what fits another humans spirituality better. And if you think that they're just "drugs" that's all they will ever be to youQuote:
shpongled26 said: So turns out I was able to simply ignore him after creating my own account.. Should have done this long ago haha. Problem solved ^^
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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You may be wrong, you assume I have no idea what suits other people better spiritually
Try asking Eckhart Tolle if he has an idea what suits you better spiritually than DMT
I'm sure he can come up with a better answer than DMT too
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lessismore said: You may be wrong, you assume I have no idea what suits other people better spiritually
Try asking Eckhart Tolle if he has an idea what suits you better spiritually than DMT
I'm sure he can come up with a better answer than DMT too
Eckhart tolle is just another human profiting off of others insecurities. He's no guru for humanity, if he actually gave a shit he wouldn't be charging people mass amounts of money to see him talk and living in million dollar houses
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931267 - 07/11/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lets see my observations
You got an acidhead picture on your profile Your profile says screwed You talk about how much your drug (DMT) is the best thing in the world, nothing comes close You talk about how much you like mdma Your profile text says how amazing mdma is You talk about how spiritual gurus are fraudsters because they dont know any truth
Maybe just perception altered? You don't even see when you think aloud anymore?
You project your hate onto others and assume you are right that E. Tolle is a fraudster
Do you know any truth yourself so you feel ready to judge who is a guru or not?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931321 - 07/11/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude... I said before that I think hallucinogens are shortcuts to what discipline and meditation over time can bring you. But the truth is, DMT is seriously a force to be reckoned with. It is beyond what you are describing by a serious mile.
It's more than just emotional, I wasn't crying because I was emotional, it was because of how purely blind I realised I was prior to the experience, and I had already eaten mushrooms, acid, smoked salvia, etc. to excess and it still showed me another side to my existence that I've never seen.
Try it yourself and you will see....
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DMT is the gateway to the truth.
and anyone who hasnt seen it for themselves cant possibly understand.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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Well my way is the best and only way. adjective: holier-than-thou characterized by an attitude of moral superiority.
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Deceit, disease, decline, this virus contradicting reason and theology Contrasting ideologies fuel the vehemence through the imaginations of humankind They are a part of the same feral beast, whose venom drips from ivory fangs Waiting to rend the vacillating mind, her feast is our collapse incarnate
This succubus sits perched on a throne of misconceptions She lies in a stagnant pool of spiritual afterbirth Pregnant with deception she spreads her wings As we receive her miscarriages willingly The abscesses of human thought grow as she rapes her mind of its reason
Hope, faith, hypocrisy, rebellion, contorted into lifestyle distortions Are the spawn that become her paradigm abortions She feeds her dead offspring to the masses, holy men and counter culture Both convulse in hunger, reduced to pains of famine They will tell you who to worship, and advise you who to hate You have become the canvas upon which they scrape their paint
All paths of logic lead to some form of light Needle feast hemorrhages try to rip reason from insight Clots from the womb pour forth with tides of delusion We have become lost in a sea of illusion
There is a path of light for those who aren't blinded by the lies that their fed There are still minds in which logic and the divine have not departed From malignant tongues forked in abhorrence Their odium seeps piercingly into the common rationality Kneel to the snake, kneel to the stake, either side breeds filth Seek the knowledge you wish to gain and think for your fucking self
Meditation/yoga can be psychedelic. To me enlightenment is the realization that reality is not what you thought it was. Before you can use language you must first understand that you exist but you understand it without language. You thought reality/yourself was made of out words but oh shit all this stuff was here before language. Lucid dreaming is fun but it's never been psychedelic for me. DMT changed my outlook on life drastically for the better. I haven't had any in at least a month but I still feel the same. I actually like being alive now where before I wasn't sure if I wanted to be. This is why I'll defend it to the grave.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Eggtimer]
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Great post bud. I too am its biggest advocate. There are so many reasons and ways to enjoy DMT.
I love my aya and pharma experiences and I don't think any other hallucinogen comes close to a full dose of ayahuasca.
It's an experience that will have you gripping the earth for fear of being thrown off of it. On the other hand, I've had experiences with aya and pharma that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
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You got an acidhead picture on your profile Your profile says screwed You talk about how much your drug (DMT) is the best thing in the world, nothing comes close You talk about how much you like mdma Your profile text says how amazing mdma is You talk about how spiritual gurus are fraudsters because they dont know any truth
Maybe just perception altered? You don't even see when you think aloud anymore?
You project your hate onto others and assume you are right that E. Tolle is a fraudster
Do you know any truth yourself so you feel ready to judge who is a guru or not?
wow you can read how does any of that apply to what we're talking about haha I love MDMA so there for my argument is invalid? Give me a fucking break.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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Ive only smoked it and still even the most basic of DMT experiences can be mind blowing beyond anything you could imagine not on DMT
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
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Smoking it is definitely more intense of a break through, but a hefty dose of aya or pharma can have you at just below a free base breakthrough level trip but for 4 or 5 hours.
Much harder than any mushroom experience I've ever had and I'm a fan of high doses.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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I rarely remember my dreams. I smoke a lot of weed and weed has the tendency to wipe my dream memory. Pretty much the only dreams I remember are the sexual ones. Never have I talked to an entity in a dream and woke up and think... "shit that was too fucking real. did that actually happen?"
I get what Lessismore is trying to quantify. The dream world and the world we see on psychedelics as being one and the same. But I disagree, and to me they are totally different dimensions of reality.
DMT breakthroughs are the most intent self-induced experience I have ever had. Literally I go from knowing I am hitting a pipe with DMT in it. Then I see the world literally start closing in around me. I see the tunnel with geometric patterns. I hear the "wah-wah-wah-wah" sound. Sometimes it sounds more like a helicopter, but the sound of hyperspace is always present. (Mickey Hart pretty much nails the sound of the cosmos with his drum kit, for real.) But once I break through all that stuff, I feel death. It's painful, miserable feeling, like your body is turning inside out. But if you lay there and take it and just let go to the experience, THEN you can start experience the wonders of the cosmos.
My most memorable moment was when I literally woke up into another dimensions. Literally I was in the closet inside someone else house. I saw clothes on hangers, organization labels, totes, etc. I opened the door with my mind with telekinesis. Then I was greeted by an entity from another dimension. As soon as I realized what I was looking at, I damn near started to cry tears of joy. I was not scared in any way. I was excited that I could be interacting with this being in a foreign land.
DMT is amazing. Wish it was more recreational though. I end up blasting off a few times in a night and I am good for a long time. Sure would be cool if DMT could be used like LSD.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: daytripper05]
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On a side note, I think dreaming is very real and powerful thing too. The best dream and most lucid dream I have ever had in my life was when I was first starting to learn to play guitar. I was maybe 2-3 years in at this point, still real fresh with intermediate concepts. I found myself playing guitar and having a real conversation with Jerry Garcia. He literally was giving me a music lesson (he used to be a music teacher).
I woke up from that dream remember everything he had taught me. Literally chords and scales I previously didn't even know. More specifically, he taught me the Emaj7 chords and scales of Eyes of the World in the same positions he and Bobby play that song. At this time, I had only known open chords. It was perhaps the most powerful mind blowing dream.
I do think it's ironic that DMT experience induce a dream like feeling. There is definitely some overlap in brain chemistry. I think the most critical part of the psychedelic experience is the part where we take the time to share our experiences and listen to others. Without this communication, the DMT memories will fade just like dream memories. (Which is why avid dreamers keep dream journals.)
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
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trvptamine said: Ive only smoked it and still even the most basic of DMT experiences can be mind blowing beyond anything you could imagine not on DMT
Thats not really true it has made me just stoned as shit for 10 minutes nothing cool it just made my face go numb and I felt baked with 0 visuals. I only smoked 10mg though so thats why its a lot cooler at 20mg, im doing a 50mg tomorrow it may have me breakthrough. I never get enough at one time for a breakthrough plus the goo vapes funny.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
#21933961 - 07/12/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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crystals are better than goo and 20 mg is an extremely small dose. I prefer 60mg at a bare minimum but I usually blast a whole point to myself.
One time I dumped 50 mg on a hot nail on my rig and took the whole thing in 1 hit. I literally thought I shit my pant the trip was so hard
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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I can't wait to explore dmt on all different dosages. All I did was fill almost an entire bowl with really fluffy dmt and smoked that so it was probably a massive dose I felt like I was taking off in a rocket and being propelled into space with crazy visuals and no sense of what being human was anymore?
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Sounds about right! I usually do a whole point and usually recommend a whole point. I also like to smoke DMT blunts. Put a whole point in your blunt and as you smoke it the deemz melts into the weed so none of it is wasted inside your pipe. You can burn it out halfway and have two trips. One of my favourite methods for sure.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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I haven't read all of this but I have this to say about that DMT to 3.5g of shrooms comparison...
Shrooms can be mind fuck.
DMT will be mind blown.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said: Sounds about right! I usually do a whole point and usually recommend a whole point. I also like to smoke DMT blunts. Put a whole point in your blunt and as you smoke it the deemz melts into the weed so none of it is wasted inside your pipe. You can burn it out halfway and have two trips. One of my favourite methods for sure.
The reason you need a whole point and not 35mg to break through is because your not vaping it or holding it in properly. For real the pipe wastes it and a blunt is just Get a vaporgenie or make the machine anything else is wasteful especial a blunt... It may work but why waste any of it? Or smoke it out of a blunt but at least smoke changa. And why do people call it deemz
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
#21935651 - 07/12/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bro I don't need you to tell me how to smoke DMT. I've done it a thousand times easy. I blast a point because I can and I like to hit it a couple times when I come down from the first peak so take your shit comments somewhere else.
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Who gives a shit what people call it dude there's a nickname for every drug out there.
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the whole point of the blunt is to not waste any of it because all the resin it creates gets smoked too instead of sticking to your pipe. Don't knock it till you try it, bud.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Lessismore, I think your making the mistake of assuming that lucid dreaming and DMT have anything to do with each other....they are not even in the same category of experience.
I took a brake from this thread because it seemed so pointless to debate the limits and parameters of DMT`s spiritual capabilities as well as the nature and implications of the DMT experiance with a person who has never smoked DMT, but swears his methods are superior to it...
I'm not sure what your motivation is. It's rare to meet a person who has never smoked DMT, but feels it's OK to describe to others it's limitations in comparison to other spiritual practice...
It's not like I'm offended or angry or bothered by your posts, I'm more puzzled than anything, and it's not just here there's other DMT threads you post in, maybe things could take a more productive turn if you could state your motivations. (Assuming that your not just saying these things to attempt to provoke DMT users into responding to you)
You can't just lay anecdotes and exegesis over your personal experiences that you feel are similar and think that you somehow know what this thing is...
Why not just have the experience? Then engage others in conversation regarding it?
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It's rare to meet a person who has never smoked DMT?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
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Bigfeely123 said: It's rare to meet a person who has never smoked DMT?
I know many, many, many people who have never smoked DMT. Many people who have never even heard of it until I told them what it was :p
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Rebelutionsssss said: Who gives a shit what people call it dude there's a nickname for every drug out there.
Its because its not just some drug its sacred. Its kinda something that is spiritual and i'm sure anyone who has done it will tell you that its one of the most intensely ego shattering things and referring to it as deemz just seems disrespectful to it...
Idk its not realy a big deal I would just hate for people to use the stuff as deemz the shit you roll in a blunt and trip your ass off vs DMT a sacred spiritual molecule that can be used for healing. Maybe im wrong but calling it deemz and smoking it out of a blunt seems like some shit that some kid would think is cool and for fun. I personally think the stuff is more than a drug but its whatever.
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Bigfeely123 said: It's rare to meet a person who has never smoked DMT?
He is saying that its rare for someone who hasn't done it to go on and on about how to do it.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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Rebelutionsssss said: Who gives a shit what people call it dude there's a nickname for every drug out there.
Its because its not just some drug its sacred. Its kinda something that is spiritual and i'm sure anyone who has done it will tell you that its one of the most intensely ego shattering things and referring to it as deemz just seems disrespectful to it...
Idk its not realy a big deal I would just hate for people to use the stuff as deemz the shit you roll in a blunt and trip your ass off vs DMT a sacred spiritual molecule that can be used for healing. Maybe im wrong but calling it deemz and smoking it out of a blunt seems like some shit that some kid would think is cool and for fun. I personally think the stuff is more than a drug but its whatever.
One, I'm not some dumb kid, two I've been extracting and using DMT for over 5 years now so I think I may know a little more than you. I cant stand pretentious douches like you, man. If I want to smoke it a certain way, I can. It does not mean I have any less respect for the molecule. If anything, I have more respect for it than the average user. Experimentation with different methods of ingestion is NOT wrong and if you think it is, then i'm sorry you feel that way
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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I smoked DMT in joints a couple times in groups its pretty nice actually . you can do small ceremony and with the right people the group energy aspect to it can be really nice imo
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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Rebelutionsssss said: Who gives a shit what people call it dude there's a nickname for every drug out there.
Its because its not just some drug its sacred. Its kinda something that is spiritual and i'm sure anyone who has done it will tell you that its one of the most intensely ego shattering things and referring to it as deemz just seems disrespectful to it...
Idk its not realy a big deal I would just hate for people to use the stuff as deemz the shit you roll in a blunt and trip your ass off vs DMT a sacred spiritual molecule that can be used for healing. Maybe im wrong but calling it deemz and smoking it out of a blunt seems like some shit that some kid would think is cool and for fun. I personally think the stuff is more than a drug but its whatever.
Get off your high horse. Different people will use the same substance in different ways. Just cos you romanticized it doesn't mean others have/will.
DMT is beautiful and everybody should respect it/her but that doesn't mean we can't give our loved substances pet names, it's all outta love.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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Rebelutionsssss said: Who gives a shit what people call it dude there's a nickname for every drug out there.
Its because its not just some drug its sacred. Its kinda something that is spiritual and i'm sure anyone who has done it will tell you that its one of the most intensely ego shattering things and referring to it as deemz just seems disrespectful to it...
Idk its not realy a big deal I would just hate for people to use the stuff as deemz the shit you roll in a blunt and trip your ass off vs DMT a sacred spiritual molecule that can be used for healing. Maybe im wrong but calling it deemz and smoking it out of a blunt seems like some shit that some kid would think is cool and for fun. I personally think the stuff is more than a drug but its whatever.
One, I'm not some dumb kid, two I've been extracting and using DMT for over 5 years now so I think I may know a little more than you. I cant stand pretentious douches like you, man. If I want to smoke it a certain way, I can. It does not mean I have any less respect for the molecule. If anything, I have more respect for it than the average user. Experimentation with different methods of ingestion is NOT wrong and if you think it is, then i'm sorry you feel that way 
Nah man its all good I just assumed you were just using it to trip sorry when I think of a blunt I think of wannabe gangsters getting stoned. If you truly have respect for it then its all good sorry bro I just thought of some guy going around with a blunt smoking DMT going who wants to hit the deemz. Idk man sorry I just assumed stuff but its all good smoke it however.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Sham87]
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Thank you, my sentiment exactly. I love DMT for everything that it is. That includes the different ways that I enjoy using it.
I love pharmahuasca and ayahuasca, making pharmahuasca cupcakes and pills, smoking it on weed or or passion flower, vaping it, and smoking blunts.
I've done everything but IV and I enjoyed it ALL. Experiment, bro.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
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True I might just try it then. When you said you smoked it out of a blunt I was just thinking of people I know who smoke blunts which is generally white kids trying to be hood. If it really is good I may have to try it sorry I just made pre judgments of newport cigarettes and loud chief keef playing (that's usually were blunts are smoked). Its stupid of me to assume those things so I apologize.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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No worries, bud. The main reason I like blunts is because I really like to smoke my spice on herb, but when you do that you lose a lot of it to the inside of your pipe, and your pipe will taste and smell like DMT until you clean it.
If you smoke a blunt, it just melts into the rest of the herb so you get every bit of it. I put 1 point in the blunt and I like to burn it out halfway and ride the first wave, then re light it and ride the second.
I've done a lot of experimenting and have just found what I like to do.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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Damn tell-a-vison straight distorting dammit
Fuck cheef queef you must know who are puppets to this agenda of hatred and murder queef is enabling murders all over Chicago THEY designed this because his childish lust for pieces of paper he is a pawn like many others please stop allowing the Tell-a-vision to tell you what is what.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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The reason you need a whole point and not 35mg to break through is because your not vaping it or holding it in properly. For real the pipe wastes it and a blunt is just Get a vaporgenie or make the machine anything else is wasteful especial a blunt... It may work but why waste any of it? Or smoke it out of a blunt but at least smoke changa. And why do people call it deemz
ahaha "deemz" doesn't bother me half as much as the term "Deemsters". I cringe and get a sharp pain down the crack of my ass whenever I hear someone call it "deemsterz".
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Hey bill how did you get banned? Was it the ban lotery? Did you piss off a mod? details
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
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Hey bill how did you get banned? Was it the ban lotery? Did you piss off a mod? details 
ban lottery 
it was the first time I ever entered the damn thing..plus I was under the impression you only got banned from the mushroom cultivation sub-forum so I said fuck it..ill enter.
then the next day or so I noticed I was banned for winning it.
lets just say I was having some serious withdrawels for 7 days.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Wait, you won the "lotto" and got banned?!

That is some ridiculous shit right there.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21966965 - 07/19/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its so if you post all the time you can force yourself to get a brake. Sometimes I accidentally click on shroomy because i've gotten so used to routinely checking this site. When i've got 1000 posts i'll enter.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21966966 - 07/19/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Wait, you won the "lotto" and got banned?!

That is some ridiculous shit right there.
Who invented the Ban Lotto? Sounds utterly retarded 
I think that's the point. This is OTD we're talking about. 
As for lessismore, he seems to be a fan of stating his opinions as fact without providing any evidence whatsoever, and accusing others of being closed minded while never questioning his own beliefs.
No one is saying that lucid dreaming is any less intense than reality, just that DMT and high doses of other psychedelics are several orders of magnitude more intense than reality. It's time to shit or get off the pot on this issue. Making comparisons to something you have no experience with is laughable.
And why are we arguing about whether psychedelics/meditation/lucid dreaming/anything else is the best or only method for psychonautics? Clearly all of these things are useful tools that work differently for everyone. I think that when dealing with these grand abstract ideas, you're going to need every tool you have at your disposal. With that being said, comparing a DMT breakthrough to something like weed or lucid dreaming is absurd.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Starless]
#21969547 - 07/20/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Starless said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: Wait, you won the "lotto" and got banned?!

That is some ridiculous shit right there.
Who invented the Ban Lotto? Sounds utterly retarded 
I think that's the point. This is OTD we're talking about. 
As for lessismore, he seems to be a fan of stating his opinions as fact without providing any evidence whatsoever, and accusing others of being closed minded while never questioning his own beliefs.
No one is saying that lucid dreaming is any less intense than reality, just that DMT and high doses of other psychedelics are several orders of magnitude more intense than reality. It's time to shit or get off the pot on this issue. Making comparisons to something you have no experience with is laughable.
And why are we arguing about whether psychedelics/meditation/lucid dreaming/anything else is the best or only method for psychonautics? Clearly all of these things are useful tools that work differently for everyone. I think that when dealing with these grand abstract ideas, you're going to need every tool you have at your disposal. With that being said, comparing a DMT breakthrough to something like weed or lucid dreaming is absurd.
I agree with starless here, however I do enjoy some of lessismores posts, debating with him really strengthens my arguments and makes me re-examine my positions on these issues.
Though I don't agree with your statements lessismore, and your motivations seem questionable to me, I don't mind debating with you....even though it seems very little sinks in, I enjoy being challenged.
I'll gladly debate with lessismore, so long as it's civilized.
Though seriously, if your going to keep challenging DMT users it may help to try DMT, even if only once, or let it go...
I agree with starless, it's pointless to compare these forms psychonuatics against one another, and the wise explorers will incorporate every technique they can, knowing that every tool in your mental arsenal has its function.
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Yea op dmt is crazy stuff
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970069 - 07/20/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I tried to show my friend the love last weekend. We get out there and I load up the dmt and repeat myself like 30 fucking times he has to take 3 really fat hits and no matter how weird things get he has to take that third hit! So what does he do.... Takes one small hit like dragging a cigarette and puts the pipe down.... Then proceeds to call my dmt weak. Some people just aren't ready for psychedelics even though he thinks he's "all about it" but won't go over 2 hits of average acid and freaked out on 2gs of mushrooms.
It's like if you don't like psychedelics DONT TAKE THEM, but for the love of god please don't act like some self proclaimed psychonaught when you haven't even dipped your toes in the other world yet because you're going to get yourself into some serious shit someday.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#21970107 - 07/20/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its too bad DMT is so fluffy. Likely scares people away from its "size".
Maybe next time, load up a 100mg bowl and tell him "smoke it all in one hit and hold it for long time".
That should convey the DMT hyperdimensional message
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#21970128 - 07/20/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea I know right .One of my friend went all cray cray shamanic hippie , bought a shaman carpet from Peru , and rocks to protect him ,constantly talk about dmt to everyone he knows. But haven't gone farther then mild sub breakthrough.
now he wants to do a ayahuasca trip to Peru... I'm like slow down bud try a real trip and see if you like it first  Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: Its too bad DMT is so fluffy. Likely scares people away from its "size".
Maybe next time, load up a 100mg bowl and tell him "smoke it all in one hit and hold it for long time".
That should convey the DMT hyperdimensional message 
The trick is to get that dmt rocks from hot pulls. And make them hit from a oil rig probably should do that to my friend
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970135 - 07/20/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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dmt rocks do explain
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#21970162 - 07/20/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When you pull with hot naphtha from acrb , more nmt and some fat are getting pulled making rocks . 50 mg becomes surprisingly small. Some likes it more then the white stuff
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970208 - 07/20/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dam bro my shit is always some amber looking oil how many grams did you pull that from?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
#21970239 - 07/20/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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250g acrb but this is a leftover .pulled around 1.5-2 g of rock and 1g white fluffy . It was in one pull but it was a combined pull and then pre evaped
Edit: If it's really gooey it means you didn't properly do the defat . But to me goo is still good beside being a little more harsh and also sometimes it burns my lips a bit after a good hit , rocks does it too but a lil less
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970605 - 07/20/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not a fan of the fat rocky crystals. Who wants to smoke fat and lipids and oils when you can smoke pure crystal? EWWWW... Just my opinion though
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: daytripper05]
#21970693 - 07/20/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was just reading this thread through and felt compelled to respond to this.
My sister has a two year old won who is just starting to speak. He often says that he sees dragons. He sees dragons on houses, walking on the sidewalk and really all over the place. A typical parent would easily discount these as imagination and claim that there are obviously no dragons there. My sister pries and digs to find out about the dragons. They have chats about the dragons, drink tea with them, slay them- you name it.
She says that he could, but is probably not making up the fact that there are dragons flying everywhere and she brings up a good question- what is it that is happening? Does he see dragons? Does his mind create some "dragon overlay" on reality and project dragons all over the world? Are there invisible dragons flying about? I couldnt really help her with the answers but I thought that the child's mind was certainly perplexing.
It's interesting, cause when I eat hear DMT stories there are sometimes lots of dragons. Now he sees giants in place of dragons. the world is a mystery.
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I cant wait to try DMT Ive been looking forever but its so rare around here
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: dannydarko]
#21970770 - 07/20/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is so easy to extract. Order some ACRB or MHRB and look up an extraction tek and follow it to a T.
There is no reason to buy DMT... EVER.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
#21970947 - 07/20/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I am not a fan of the fat rocky crystals. Who wants to smoke fat and lipids and oils when you can smoke pure crystal? EWWWW... Just my opinion though
well aint a fan of smoking fat either but its still at least 95% pure. and still really far from being the dirtiest shit i smoked , already smoked a random x pill (i was young and dumb)
yeilding rocks is also part of my second defat. i freeze precipitate like 400 ML of naphtah in a single tray, after 12h, i get it out transfer the nafphtah in an other tray. evaporate it to around 70ml then re freeze it and the second tray is like pure crystals. and my first tray is full of yellow tinted rocks . so am aint wasting that still was 2g
its like 4 times less job then doing a second A/B
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970954 - 07/20/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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beautiful..
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21970987 - 07/20/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jean-guy Masta said:
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natedawgnow said: I am not a fan of the fat rocky crystals. Who wants to smoke fat and lipids and oils when you can smoke pure crystal? EWWWW... Just my opinion though
well aint a fan of smoking fat either but its still at least 95% pure. and still really far from being the dirtiest shit i smoked , already smoked a random x pill (i was young and dumb)
yeilding rocks is also part of my second defat. i freeze precipitate like 400 ML of naphtah in a single tray, after 12h, i get it out transfer the nafphtah in an other tray. evaporate it to around 70ml then re freeze it and the second tray is like pure crystals. and my first tray is full of yellow tinted rocks . so am aint wasting that still was 2g
its like 4 times less job then doing a second A/B
and look at my second tray 
 
Good method! That stuff looks tasty!
As far as your first precip, I would take the yellow stuff, and redissolve it in warm naptha. You'll see all the oils fall to the bottom of the jar while the DMT re dissolves almost instantly. Siphon off the naptha and re freeze precip. It should come out much cleaner and with denser crystals since you started with warm naptha.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
#21971121 - 07/20/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks guys was tired of 50g extract , 250g extract yields are just Quote:
natedawgnow said:
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Jean-guy Masta said:
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natedawgnow said: I am not a fan of the fat rocky crystals. Who wants to smoke fat and lipids and oils when you can smoke pure crystal? EWWWW... Just my opinion though
well aint a fan of smoking fat either but its still at least 95% pure. and still really far from being the dirtiest shit i smoked , already smoked a random x pill (i was young and dumb)
yeilding rocks is also part of my second defat. i freeze precipitate like 400 ML of naphtah in a single tray, after 12h, i get it out transfer the nafphtah in an other tray. evaporate it to around 70ml then re freeze it and the second tray is like pure crystals. and my first tray is full of yellow tinted rocks . so am aint wasting that still was 2g
its like 4 times less job then doing a second A/B
and look at my second tray 
 
Good method! That stuff looks tasty!
As far as your first precip, I would take the yellow stuff, and redissolve it in warm naptha. You'll see all the oils fall to the bottom of the jar while the DMT re dissolves almost instantly. Siphon off the naptha and re freeze precip. It should come out much cleaner and with denser crystals since you started with warm naptha.
thats a pretty good idea maybe ill do it with some , but the rocks are so more dabable in a oil rig, its nice to initiate people to the real experience lots of my friends though they had smoked DMT before, i made them hit the oil rig most of them were like WTF happened
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#21971133 - 07/20/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I did 50 mg pure crystal out of my dab rig and the trip was just toooo ridiculous. I seriously thought I had shit my pants but I didn't thank god 
It is definitely a different experience. It was kind of rough actually. Almost abusive. Definitely straight to the dome though cause you take the whole thing in one hit.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#21972694 - 07/20/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Ya I did 50 mg pure crystal out of my dab rig and the trip was just toooo ridiculous. I seriously thought I had shit my pants but I didn't thank god 
It is definitely a different experience. It was kind of rough actually. Almost abusive. Definitely straight to the dome though cause you take the whole thing in one hit.
speaking of which, a month or two ago I took LSD at the lake and thought i had to fart. started to push and "bang" i sharted for the first time in my life and it had to be while i was trippin
in my experience dab rigs are the best for dmt though
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
#21976593 - 07/21/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Way easier to dab
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: beta_knight]
#21976614 - 07/21/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh man I don't know if I agree with that right there 
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