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natedawgnow
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931190 - 07/11/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
#21931196 - 07/11/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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natedawgnow said: For real DMT will literally flip your conventional idea of reality on its head. It changed my life the very first time I smoked it. I had such a rowdy breakthrough I came down in tears. Nothing compares to that level of mind blown
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lessismore
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Breaking down in tears is fully normal with any level5, do lsd, do shrooms , doesn't matter
Happens each time for me ?;-)
The mind doesn't like having its reality shattered, that's why you break down
But is it the emotions that makes it more intense? That's a weird way of saying it is intense Or is it the love that does?
Maybe lucid dreams are not as good to learn in as psychedelics can be, I don't learn so much from them, I learn after them
Laugh,cries and tears, that's the shaman level trip (level4-5 on shrooms), the trip few dare go to repeatedly
But I just think I like lucid dreams better than psychedelics, because you are not overemotional Overemotional is not a good thing always, it is actually not pleasant It feels much nicer to be over your emotions, and over your thoughts , and control them
Than to be controlled...
That's why at some point in your evolution you will dismiss the DMT and find meditation will suit you much better, that's the natural spiritual evolution. Drugs can be fun, but they will not help you stably in your life through life.
If we cling onto the drugs instead of learning, we cling onto our past attachments
Sometimes learning is not pleasant, and we must go the unpleasant route, the route that doesn't show us it all in our face, but we must earn truth with hard work. Maybe there's no shortcut to truth?
We're back to normal next day, no wiser than before.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 3
#21931228 - 07/11/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was enjoying this thread very much but damn, this guy lessismore really is missing something. Sounds like a kid as he/she references school constantly.
I actually made account to post here just been a reader for years cause of how annoyed I had gotten. Please do not try to compare the experience from cannabis to other psychadelics especially dmt? You shouldn't be allowed to post anymore or something.. take your lucid dream shit elsewhere
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shpongled26
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: shpongled26]
#21931231 - 07/11/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So turns out I was able to simply ignore him after creating my own account.. Should have done this long ago haha. Problem solved ^^
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: shpongled26]
#21931238 - 07/11/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Meditation will suit me better? You have no idea what fits another humans spirituality better. And if you think that they're just "drugs" that's all they will ever be to youQuote:
shpongled26 said: So turns out I was able to simply ignore him after creating my own account.. Should have done this long ago haha. Problem solved ^^
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lessismore
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931246 - 07/11/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You may be wrong, you assume I have no idea what suits other people better spiritually
Try asking Eckhart Tolle if he has an idea what suits you better spiritually than DMT
I'm sure he can come up with a better answer than DMT too
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore] 1
#21931255 - 07/11/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: You may be wrong, you assume I have no idea what suits other people better spiritually
Try asking Eckhart Tolle if he has an idea what suits you better spiritually than DMT
I'm sure he can come up with a better answer than DMT too
Eckhart tolle is just another human profiting off of others insecurities. He's no guru for humanity, if he actually gave a shit he wouldn't be charging people mass amounts of money to see him talk and living in million dollar houses
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lessismore
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931267 - 07/11/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lets see my observations
You got an acidhead picture on your profile Your profile says screwed You talk about how much your drug (DMT) is the best thing in the world, nothing comes close You talk about how much you like mdma Your profile text says how amazing mdma is You talk about how spiritual gurus are fraudsters because they dont know any truth
Maybe just perception altered? You don't even see when you think aloud anymore?
You project your hate onto others and assume you are right that E. Tolle is a fraudster
Do you know any truth yourself so you feel ready to judge who is a guru or not?
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Dude this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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natedawgnow
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931321 - 07/11/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude... I said before that I think hallucinogens are shortcuts to what discipline and meditation over time can bring you. But the truth is, DMT is seriously a force to be reckoned with. It is beyond what you are describing by a serious mile.
It's more than just emotional, I wasn't crying because I was emotional, it was because of how purely blind I realised I was prior to the experience, and I had already eaten mushrooms, acid, smoked salvia, etc. to excess and it still showed me another side to my existence that I've never seen.
Try it yourself and you will see....
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow] 2
#21931329 - 07/11/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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DMT is the gateway to the truth.
and anyone who hasnt seen it for themselves cant possibly understand.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931331 - 07/11/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well my way is the best and only way. adjective: holier-than-thou characterized by an attitude of moral superiority.
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Deceit, disease, decline, this virus contradicting reason and theology Contrasting ideologies fuel the vehemence through the imaginations of humankind They are a part of the same feral beast, whose venom drips from ivory fangs Waiting to rend the vacillating mind, her feast is our collapse incarnate
This succubus sits perched on a throne of misconceptions She lies in a stagnant pool of spiritual afterbirth Pregnant with deception she spreads her wings As we receive her miscarriages willingly The abscesses of human thought grow as she rapes her mind of its reason
Hope, faith, hypocrisy, rebellion, contorted into lifestyle distortions Are the spawn that become her paradigm abortions She feeds her dead offspring to the masses, holy men and counter culture Both convulse in hunger, reduced to pains of famine They will tell you who to worship, and advise you who to hate You have become the canvas upon which they scrape their paint
All paths of logic lead to some form of light Needle feast hemorrhages try to rip reason from insight Clots from the womb pour forth with tides of delusion We have become lost in a sea of illusion
There is a path of light for those who aren't blinded by the lies that their fed There are still minds in which logic and the divine have not departed From malignant tongues forked in abhorrence Their odium seeps piercingly into the common rationality Kneel to the snake, kneel to the stake, either side breeds filth Seek the knowledge you wish to gain and think for your fucking self
Meditation/yoga can be psychedelic. To me enlightenment is the realization that reality is not what you thought it was. Before you can use language you must first understand that you exist but you understand it without language. You thought reality/yourself was made of out words but oh shit all this stuff was here before language. Lucid dreaming is fun but it's never been psychedelic for me. DMT changed my outlook on life drastically for the better. I haven't had any in at least a month but I still feel the same. I actually like being alive now where before I wasn't sure if I wanted to be. This is why I'll defend it to the grave.
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natedawgnow
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Eggtimer]
#21931363 - 07/11/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great post bud. I too am its biggest advocate. There are so many reasons and ways to enjoy DMT.
I love my aya and pharma experiences and I don't think any other hallucinogen comes close to a full dose of ayahuasca.
It's an experience that will have you gripping the earth for fear of being thrown off of it. On the other hand, I've had experiences with aya and pharma that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21931373 - 07/11/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: Lets see my observations
You got an acidhead picture on your profile Your profile says screwed You talk about how much your drug (DMT) is the best thing in the world, nothing comes close You talk about how much you like mdma Your profile text says how amazing mdma is You talk about how spiritual gurus are fraudsters because they dont know any truth
Maybe just perception altered? You don't even see when you think aloud anymore?
You project your hate onto others and assume you are right that E. Tolle is a fraudster
Do you know any truth yourself so you feel ready to judge who is a guru or not?
wow you can read how does any of that apply to what we're talking about haha I love MDMA so there for my argument is invalid? Give me a fucking break.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
#21931398 - 07/11/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive only smoked it and still even the most basic of DMT experiences can be mind blowing beyond anything you could imagine not on DMT
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natedawgnow
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
#21931425 - 07/11/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Smoking it is definitely more intense of a break through, but a hefty dose of aya or pharma can have you at just below a free base breakthrough level trip but for 4 or 5 hours.
Much harder than any mushroom experience I've ever had and I'm a fan of high doses.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
#21932795 - 07/12/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I rarely remember my dreams. I smoke a lot of weed and weed has the tendency to wipe my dream memory. Pretty much the only dreams I remember are the sexual ones. Never have I talked to an entity in a dream and woke up and think... "shit that was too fucking real. did that actually happen?"
I get what Lessismore is trying to quantify. The dream world and the world we see on psychedelics as being one and the same. But I disagree, and to me they are totally different dimensions of reality.
DMT breakthroughs are the most intent self-induced experience I have ever had. Literally I go from knowing I am hitting a pipe with DMT in it. Then I see the world literally start closing in around me. I see the tunnel with geometric patterns. I hear the "wah-wah-wah-wah" sound. Sometimes it sounds more like a helicopter, but the sound of hyperspace is always present. (Mickey Hart pretty much nails the sound of the cosmos with his drum kit, for real.) But once I break through all that stuff, I feel death. It's painful, miserable feeling, like your body is turning inside out. But if you lay there and take it and just let go to the experience, THEN you can start experience the wonders of the cosmos.
My most memorable moment was when I literally woke up into another dimensions. Literally I was in the closet inside someone else house. I saw clothes on hangers, organization labels, totes, etc. I opened the door with my mind with telekinesis. Then I was greeted by an entity from another dimension. As soon as I realized what I was looking at, I damn near started to cry tears of joy. I was not scared in any way. I was excited that I could be interacting with this being in a foreign land.
DMT is amazing. Wish it was more recreational though. I end up blasting off a few times in a night and I am good for a long time. Sure would be cool if DMT could be used like LSD.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: daytripper05]
#21932822 - 07/12/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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On a side note, I think dreaming is very real and powerful thing too. The best dream and most lucid dream I have ever had in my life was when I was first starting to learn to play guitar. I was maybe 2-3 years in at this point, still real fresh with intermediate concepts. I found myself playing guitar and having a real conversation with Jerry Garcia. He literally was giving me a music lesson (he used to be a music teacher).
I woke up from that dream remember everything he had taught me. Literally chords and scales I previously didn't even know. More specifically, he taught me the Emaj7 chords and scales of Eyes of the World in the same positions he and Bobby play that song. At this time, I had only known open chords. It was perhaps the most powerful mind blowing dream.
I do think it's ironic that DMT experience induce a dream like feeling. There is definitely some overlap in brain chemistry. I think the most critical part of the psychedelic experience is the part where we take the time to share our experiences and listen to others. Without this communication, the DMT memories will fade just like dream memories. (Which is why avid dreamers keep dream journals.)
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: trvptamine]
#21933951 - 07/12/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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trvptamine said: Ive only smoked it and still even the most basic of DMT experiences can be mind blowing beyond anything you could imagine not on DMT
Thats not really true it has made me just stoned as shit for 10 minutes nothing cool it just made my face go numb and I felt baked with 0 visuals. I only smoked 10mg though so thats why its a lot cooler at 20mg, im doing a 50mg tomorrow it may have me breakthrough. I never get enough at one time for a breakthrough plus the goo vapes funny.
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