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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21930369 - 07/11/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe I said that DMT is one of my favorite substances. I was merely stating a fact about psychedelics and the human psyche. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21930379 - 07/11/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes i wonder if DMT was made by aliens.

The experience is just so other-worldly.

Do you guys believe DMT was created by aliens?


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930477 - 07/11/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, I think our world is just that amazing. Evolution and adaption of plants and animals alongside each other over millions of years.

So much had to conglomerate on so many levels for existence to follow the path it has, and it's mind-blowing just to think about.

Just as mind blowing as it to see for the first time that our reality is not exactly what it seems. That there is a veil to be lifted and a whole new existence to be explored.

There are a multitude of other realities and dimensions beyond the veil, our brains just trap us in this one :smile:


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21930505 - 07/11/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think we are aliens and we created DMT to be able to revisit the sacred knowledge of ourselves in this body


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930528 - 07/11/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In a way we are aliens, if there is other life, then we are alien to them. To the point though, if what you say is true, then we would be
responsible for the creation of all things that contain DMT or similar compounds, which is damn near everything. I like the idea though.

I do believe DMT is a portal to other dimensions or realities, though. The experience is definitely otherworldly. Why is it here? I don't know, ask the plants.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930534 - 07/11/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe us humans aka "the aliens" hid the DMT inside plants, like an ancient time capsule.

And now we are rediscovering it.

far out


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930561 - 07/11/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Our ancestors placed them into the plants as a commutation tool to the afterlife.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow] * 2
    #21930567 - 07/11/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe the DMT experience isn't so other-worldly and its just "more worldly". Think of a TV receiving signals. Now think of humans being a TV receiving signals for our surroundings. What if all DMT is, is making the TVs signals visible. So when we smoke DMT, we just can see the signals that are surrounding us all the time.

Then begs the question...what are the aliens/entities? Well what if when the TVs visible signal becomes so detailed, it starts projecting another version of itself out instead of the visible signals. The visible projection of the self is still made of the signals but now its A WHOLE SIGNAL. AKA the whole entity/alien.

So basically when we see the entities, we are just seeing whole-detailed signals being projected as another version of our subconscious self.



I need to stop doing drugs. :lol:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930586 - 07/11/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's becoming more mainstream since "the spirit molecule" came out and since joe rogan made it a feature subject on his podcast,
but it's been used by humans as long as any other hallucinogen in forms of aya, yopo, etc. and was well known in the 60s.
People who used it and extracted it and all else were just really good at keeping it low key and off radar. Times are changing.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930592 - 07/11/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whoa, i think youre on to something :strokebeard:

What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.

Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! :awesome:


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930621 - 07/11/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Whoa, i think youre on to something :strokebeard:

What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.

Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! :awesome:




You can have an alien visitation on any psychedelic if you take enough, and also in lucid dreams ;-)

It will feel as real as this reality each time

Real is just a trigger in your brain, take high enough dose and it always feels real, and LDs always feel 100% real

The alien might be yourself though, all seems to be one in the end
So if you see aliens it says something about yourself ?;-P

If you are into interdimensional travel when Salvia works very good too, is easier to get than DMT, and takes you extremely high, no room left each time
Maybe too high...

It seems psychedelics are only useful if we can integrate them - what you do in this world is what counts

You can act as a receiver from your higher self with these molecules, but that isn't alien at all, that is your soul
You can also do it without the molecules afterwards, when you have tripped a bit , crystals can help change your frequency, as can relaxing

Your higher self knows answers in most situations to what you should do and why things happen, can be very spiritual, it's like direct modem connection to your soul if you can relax enough to connect

Can be done in meditation too/you often feel that connection directly afterwards meditation, your higher self just knows stuff


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930627 - 07/11/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like to think of it in the way they explain parallel universes. They exist at the same time we do, even at the same place in time and space just layered one on top of the other, meshed into one.

But our consciousness only allows us to view this one we currently reside in and there is a constant "veil" that stops us from seeing the other realities and going bonkers. Like a schizophrenic kinda.

But DMT breaks down that veil and allows you to travel in between the layers.

In the multiverse, anything is possible; if you can think it, it exists somewhere in the multiverse which is why some trips may be outside the norm of this reality and you may see entities or whatever you want to call them, but they're just beings in a parallel universe. Just a thought.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21930660 - 07/11/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Whoa, i think youre on to something :strokebeard:

What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.

Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! :awesome:





quite possible :mushroom2:


its like sobriety is fishing with no bait. When we do psychs, we are using top-notch quality bait and hope we get a bite. If you "let go" once you get that bite...you can reel that sucker in and weigh it, inspect it, and throw it back into the sea of forgetfulness :wink:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21930690 - 07/11/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe there are no parallel dimensions :shrug:

They could just be from your neurotransmitters changing potential, so now you perceive colors differently , and touch differently - so the brain makes a new space to suit the new input

Doesn't necessarily mean the space is there


Just like an OBE doesn't necessarily mean the space is there, OBEs can be scientifically induced and often happen in anesthesia to people

The question is always , is it real or not real?


The brain will ALWAYS think it is real, first it thinks THIS reality is real, then it thinks trips are real

But are they? - real seems to just be a switch


On Salvia I can believe people in mid air visiting me (people I know) are real, but they weren't there

So obviously hallucinations?

Or maybe hacking the automated simulation?


Real is what you perceive as real, that's the truth , anything can be real if you can imagine it


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930702 - 07/11/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
Whoa, i think youre on to something :strokebeard:

What if smoking DMT attracts entities from "signals" emitted from our brains when we smoke DMT. Like an alien visitation from another realm.

Bill, i think we cracked the DMT code!! :awesome:





quite possible :mushroom2:


its like sobriety is fishing with no bait. When we do psychs, we are using top-notch quality bait and hope we get a bite. If you "let go" once you get that bite...you can reel that sucker in and weigh it, inspect it, and throw it back into the sea of forgetfulness :wink:



:whathesaid:


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21930731 - 07/11/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well what is smoking cannabis Skunk then?

the shaman's favorite, speaking to spirits, you can get a very visual trip with that too and see spirits

doesn't mean it is safe though

the bait may be more than you can pull in, it may pull YOU in


cannabis can be equally psychoactive as psychedelics to me, and all psychedelics I've tried I've seen spirits on, incl cannabis

they may open you to the spirit world, but it may be very unsafe

lucid dreaming isn't safe either, neither is LSD/mushrooms , there is always the risk of a bad trip , and they usually involve spirits for me


to be safe we must prepare a lot


if the spirits are not always benevolent, then are the aliens you talk about that?


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21930850 - 07/11/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man sometimes stuff like this is best left to ignore. I personally believe this stuff is true. But facinating on entities and spirits is dangerous and ever under circumstances where people know what they are doing I still don't think it is useful for us in this dimension. If I die happy around family and friends I'll have gotten more than I could ever ask from the universe so I don't feel the need to know everything and have all sorts of helper debts to things I've encountered. Yes those things can help and hurt, but they are not as dense as we are in this dimension and in the next we still can do what we want so why should we care. The helper ones are indistinguishable from intuitive knowledge and do not need or want recognition.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21930888 - 07/11/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well what is smoking cannabis Skunk then?

the shaman's favorite, speaking to spirits, you can get a very visual trip with that too and see spirits

doesn't mean it is safe though

the bait may be more than you can pull in, it may pull YOU in


cannabis can be equally psychoactive as psychedelics to me, and all psychedelics I've tried I've seen spirits on, incl cannabis

they may open you to the spirit world, but it may be very unsafe

lucid dreaming isn't safe either, neither is LSD/mushrooms , there is always the risk of a bad trip , and they usually involve spirits for me


to be safe we must prepare a lot


if the spirits are not always benevolent, then are the aliens you talk about that?


man to me it sounds like you haven't really jumped in deep enough with psychedelics. You're  trying to compare DMT with dreaming and smoking cannabis.... Until you actually try DMT you'll never know the unspeakable things it shows you. I'm not saying what you experiance is not amazing but compared to other things in this world it just doesn't campare. And yes I've lucid dreamed before and although it does seem like reality you just wake up in your bed. There's something different about watching the world you think you know leave you as you enter another.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21931132 - 07/11/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did you know you can flashjump in lucid dreams, wake up in another dream?

you think you awoke, but then it was a a false awakening, youre still dreaming

:-D

it messes with your mind like that , so you go to school, but then youre still dreaming and can fly lol


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21931160 - 07/11/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Teleporting is also pretty normal there... sometimes you can also lose reality in them if you face your fear you may just lose consciousness

Then you are suddenly in a new dream.... mindfuck


Same happens if you die, you just teleport to a new dream sometimes


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