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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929688 - 07/11/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry man didn't mean to derail your thread. I apologize bro.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929692 - 07/11/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours? And three hits of acid really isn't that much man, I would say higher doses are in the 500ug range.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21929703 - 07/11/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours?




Well 5-8 hours, I dunno how long, time is basically nonexistant when you loop

Looping is usually the most intense parts of my trips, be it LSD/shrooms , looping takes you to the edge of your mind (show you your fear directly)

So as you will hopefully see, intensity is not always a good measure for a trip


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929712 - 07/11/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: I'm sorry dude and don't take this the wrong way but if a loop is the most intense psychedelic hallucination you've had you aren't really that experienced in psychedelics


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929725 - 07/11/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There are other things to psychedelics than visuals

You don't get it

Maybe you should just take a spraybottle and paint your eyes green, then you'll get an intense trip


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929740 - 07/11/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:confused: uhhh ok?


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929769 - 07/11/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lessismore said:
Quote:

Rebelutionsssss said:
How did you have a loop for 8 hours when mushrooms only last like 5 hours?




Well 5-8 hours, I dunno how long, time is basically nonexistant when you loop

Looping is usually the most intense parts of my trips, be it LSD/shrooms , looping takes you to the edge of your mind (show you your fear directly)

So as you will hopefully see, intensity is not always a good measure for a trip




:underage:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21929774 - 07/11/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Bigfeely123 said:
I don't disagree with anything else that you are saying because I really have no opinion on it. BUT dying in a dream is waaayyy different from thinking your dying in a trip.




Please explain , I've been wondering about this for many years now since I jumped out of a building in a dream

That dream alone has taken me 10 years to reintegrate , still remember it like yesterday

It was NOT pleasant , as unpleasant as any bad trip, fear for ones life for hours


You seem to assume dream reality is less real than here, and can not cause bad trips

I don't assume such a thing, people can get insane just by doing 'reality checks', they can also get stuck in their dreams and lose a part of themselves I know - lose their core being, because I've tried it many years ago

Then psychedelics helped heal what I had lost, dreams are not less dangerous to the mind than reality/trips it seems


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929792 - 07/11/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Scarring to the mind due to bad dreams is called 'sleep paralysis' , people remember it for their whole life. I still remember mine when I was 11, I'm 30 now

Dreams can scar the psyche exactly as much as bad trips/this reality

Dangerous self reflection

Self reflection is dangerous to the soul/mind that is not evolved enough/who is not ready


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929829 - 07/11/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21929972 - 07/11/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

DMT showed me a side to reality I never knew was possible. I used to smoke quite a lot of it, multiple times a week, sometimes multiple times a day.
Now I limit it to around once every six months. It is the most amazing substance I have ever consumed besides oxygen and water.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21929986 - 07/11/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream




When was the last time you had a conscious dream?

You don't seem too experienced in lucid dreaming since you say what you say there

In lucid dreams you are sure you are awake at first, you wake up where you went to bed, you walk around, you go to school or work

Then suddenly you find out you can jump out of the window and fly (at work) or at school


So if you are about to die in a lucid dream, you think it's 100% real
you will do anything to escape


It will be the most unpleasant memory in your mind your whole life


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21929996 - 07/11/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I lived on 2nd floor, someone came running up the stairs, cops wanting to shoot me
I climed up on my window, ready to jump

They kicked in my door, I jumped

Felt 100% real, I was sure I was awake.... but my action performed themselves, else I probably wouldnt have jumped


It felt like being in the situation and watching it on camera at the same time, so surreal
and yet so real...

Felt more real than this reality , could feel the window frame, had to crawl up to jump etc.


Had to fly away from that being in the air for  hours too..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
    #21930000 - 07/11/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lessismore said:
Quote:

Rebelutionsssss said:
We're going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry man but dying in your dream and waking up in your nice cozy bed is farrrrrr different than watching yourself fade away and die while fully awake knowing that it's not a dream




When was the last time you had a conscious dream?

You don't seem too experienced in lucid dreaming since you say what you say there

In lucid dreams you are sure you are awake at first, you wake up where you went to bed, you walk around, you go to school or work

Then suddenly you find out you can jump out of the window and fly (at work) or at school


So if you are about to die in a lucid dream, you think it's 100% real
you will do anything to escape


It will be the most unpleasant memory in your mind your whole life





If you had a proper DMT breakthrough im sure you wouldn't be tooting that horn of yours.


DMT breakthroughs cannot be compared to any kind of lucid dream.

if I was wrong, then I would be spending my free-time researching dreams and obsessing over them instead of DMT :lolsy:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930014 - 07/11/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry bill but the truth is that hallucinogens are shortcuts for what meditation can bring us with practice.
The same goes for dreams. If you had the obedience, you could train yourself to break through the bonds of our reality without psychedelics.
I still think DMT is one of the greatest substances every to grace our existence, though.


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21930028 - 07/11/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
If you had a proper DMT breakthrough im sure you wouldn't be tooting that horn of yours.
DMT breakthroughs cannot be compared to any kind of lucid dream.
if I was wrong, then I would be spending my free-time researching dreams and obsessing over them instead of DMT :lolsy:




You would have to experience them both to know..

Have you experienced a lucid dream breakthrough ? - I have, several times
Nothing comes even close, only out of body does for me

Doesn't mean DMT is not nice and all, but your mind is the ultimate virtual reality

Psychedelics usually distort reality a bit, but in Lucid Dreams you got full control


It can be very valuable to learn, most people who LD don't need any drugs, they can trip each night
no words can do it justice, it's unbeliveable


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #21930059 - 07/11/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Bill we've been doing it wrong our whole lives. instead of growing psilocybin and extracting dmt we should just be sleeping :awehigh: :lol:


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21930168 - 07/11/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Sorry bill but the truth is that hallucinogens are shortcuts for what meditation can bring us with practice.
The same goes for dreams. If you had the obedience, you could train yourself to break through the bonds of our reality without psychedelics.
I still think DMT is one of the greatest substances every to grace our existence, though.




Psychedelics are a part of reality. DMT is a part of you. You are in fact made out of drugs.
Shortcuts are good sometimes you don't really always take the long way around do you?
I guess if you only take the long way around shortcuts seem unfair to you :lol:


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21930190 - 07/11/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
Bill we've been doing it wrong our whole lives. instead of growing psilocybin and extracting dmt we should just be sleeping :awehigh: :lol:





I guess so, ay?

:lol:


oh and by the way...if psychs are a shortcut, then so is anything else. Don't blame the dr00gz because they are more effective. Don't hate the playa hate the game, fellas.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21930367 - 07/11/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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