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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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...it was supposed to say "altered lab mice DNA"
Sorry for all the typos, accidentally went on a rant when I'm really busy, I'm on a tablet, half the thing was written while in a moving car....so sorry about any typos
I'm too tired to re-read that and correct all the typos, but I will eventually....
-E. Borodin
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Rebelutionsssss
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Well said brother I have some friends that really want to explore dmt but I'm not sure they are ready for it by any means. I know you can never be prepared but this person had trouble handling 2 grams of average cubensis I'm kind of sad I have no close friends (besides on the shroomery) that are willing to go into the deep dark confines of the mind and explore that what these beautiful compounds can do to improve your life and better you as a person.
Everytime I try to explain that these are learning tools and need to be respected just don't understand and just want to get "fucked up" which is really a shame. On 2 grams of cubensis my friend just kept repeating how he just wanted to be normal and that this is weird, he just couldn't let go. He's also one that abuses cocaine so somewhere in his mind he's trying to hide from something. I will try and explain to my friends how these experiences free your mind and allow you to accept the world how it is and to find beauty in the things you do have and all I get is this
I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
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Edited by Rebelutionsssss (07/10/15 12:13 PM)
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I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
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trvptamine
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Rebelutionsssss said: 10 times stronger fuck man if that got anymore intense I think I would just black out and have my brain explode. I couldn't even move from smoking it out of a piece
I may have exagerated a little but it is a lot more intense. Its hard for me to break through on the dmt by just smoking it out of a bowl. I only blast off when I dab it. Smoking it out of a bowl makes the world just look like its in 10808080p rather than 1080p and gives me an intense body high and maybe some slight closed eye visuals.
Also I think the reason why just smoking it out of a bowl doesnt give me profound experiences is because of the potency of the DMT around here. Its not crystal. More of a waxy type of substance
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LogicaL Chaos
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Thanks, though language does very poorly as a medium for communicating these experiences....
-E. Borodin
i thought u did great. I got that piece of trip in my imagination now
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lessismore
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Interesting I had an 'ancestor experience' on both mushrooms and LSD before
but how do we know it is really ancestors, it was certainly funny communication received and very wise too
I believe I maybe may have a parasite and a few people I know have too, that's what blocks our chakras/steal our energy it seems, changes our thoughts and actions yes
The only problem with DMT is it is so short
But I could imagine it first starting after the experience, like high dose LSD
Then the real trip comes 5-12 months after the LSD trip, in daily living, you just opened up your heart and soul
Ancestor trips may not just be harmless though, how do we know these 'dead beings' are really ancestors, they seem very eager to get access to ones body to be able to speak through it
Can be very dangerous maybe, maybe all psychedelics can be very dangerous for this reason, if the person has less strength than the spirits
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thewanderer25
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21925401 - 07/10/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive been smoking goo and I have yet to blast off. Its more like a strong acid peak to me . But I like oral DMT a lot better its by far the best "drug" out there (its not a drug its a healing tool). I realy do like the goo as well though.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: thewanderer25]
#21925469 - 07/10/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel blessed I was able to blast off my first try. I think it was mostly because I've heard of people being disappointed in their first trips so I poured half a vial into the bowl and took as long of rips that I could. By my second I was loosing my grip on reality and was about to stop but I remember others say no matter how scared you get take that last hit. So I took one more and by the end I dropped my pipe on the floor and just feel back into nothing. It's the most amazing terrifing thing I've ever experienced
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lessismore
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Be careful about tripping alone without sitter
With Salvia you may drop your bong onto the floor and set your house on fire if unlucky, while unconscious for 5-25mins on Salvia
Many people drop their bong there, I'm not saying it will happen for you but just be careful
If I didn't try to prevent that that would happen for me on salvia, drop the bong , you just get an out of body experience, no reality left
Take severe precautions with psychedelics that take you out of body/remove reality like DMT,ayahuasca,salvia Not for everyone, not for every setting , but very worthwhile if respected
_many_ people have dropped their bong and broken it on Salvia
Anyway I would like to read a trip report, if you make one and write what you experienced in the trip and after the trip. Often worthwhile psychedelics change your world after the trip - that's where you start to learn
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21925591 - 07/10/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
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thewanderer25
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Rebelutionsssss said: I feel blessed I was able to blast off my first try. I think it was mostly because I've heard of people being disappointed in their first trips so I poured half a vial into the bowl and took as long of rips that I could.
I never get enough I do these small extractions like 50 grams at a time and then I get one good dose (if im lucky). So putting more in a bowl never works for me ive been thinking of doing larger extractions but im worried ima fuck it up. I would rather just brew formosahuasca its really cool. Its not like DMT though its more mellow and focused its also more planed in my opinion free base seems like its all random but oral seems like its meant to be.
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Awesome you had a good first one. Most times people do it wrong and get nowhere, or get seriously spooked.
One of the last times I saw like this flamingo in a tuxedo spraying a hose of technicolor that would completely change in theme and design when I blinked my eyes, he had friends too but it's hard to describe without just going on foreverrrrr. Stuff can be weird.
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lessismore
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Icon]
#21926680 - 07/10/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21927221 - 07/11/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Icon]
#21927721 - 07/11/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: im scared
I'd like to see you actually try DMT before reading another post of yours saying that it's too short to benefit from and how much you're in love with acid.
I'm not scared, I've smoked Salvia plenty of times
But I only venture into the psychedelics that call me, and DMT hasn't called me yet, I find no reason to smoke it
You don't have to smoke it just because everyone else does you know?
And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Rebelutionsssss said: Well said brother I have some friends that really want to explore dmt but I'm not sure they are ready for it by any means. I know you can never be prepared but this person had trouble handling 2 grams of average cubensis I'm kind of sad I have no close friends (besides on the shroomery) that are willing to go into the deep dark confines of the mind and explore that what these beautiful compounds can do to improve your life and better you as a person.
Everytime I try to explain that these are learning tools and need to be respected just don't understand and just want to get "fucked up" which is really a shame. On 2 grams of cubensis my friend just kept repeating how he just wanted to be normal and that this is weird, he just couldn't let go. He's also one that abuses cocaine so somewhere in his mind he's trying to hide from something. I will try and explain to my friends how these experiences free your mind and allow you to accept the world how it is and to find beauty in the things you do have and all I get is this
I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
Some people hate having their ontological structure pulled out from under them...it's like sky-diving, some may see it as a thrill while others would be scared to death... Regardless it's difficult for a person in panic to retrieve useful gnosis, so if you panic in these situations than maybe shamanic exploration is not for you....we all feel fear, it's how you handle yourself under pressure and intense panic that makes the difference, the first men to go to the moon were known for this "keeping calm in outrageous situations" quality and would have made excellent shamans...
I think these things have remained in such a peripheral position in culture because it's very hard to language the experience, articulation into human language structure is near impossible, so we need metaphor makers, those who can make others understand as close as possible with human language, these are the people we need taking these compounds....Because it's not for everybody, so the people who it is for have the responsibility of attempting to express these things to the non-users.
Be safe in your travels, and good luck.
-E. Borodin
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21927883 - 07/11/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
I first read about DMT when I was 13, I was into the beat writers and Buddhism, so one day a friend gives me a book called "the archaic revival" by terence mckenna. It set me on a quest to obtain this magical compound....it was over 10 years later that I first tried DMT...so you don't have to be in a hurry, it will eventually happen.
-E. Borodin
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lessismore
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I can't wait to explore dmt further and eventually try Ayahuasca I absolutely love entheogens
I agree completely. I have never tried DMT sadly but someday my friend we will meet..
I first read about DMT when I was 13, I was into the beat writers and Buddhism, so one day a friend gives me a book called "the archaic revival" by terence mckenna. It set me on a quest to obtain this magical compound....it was over 10 years later that I first tried DMT...so you don't have to be in a hurry, it will eventually happen.
-E. Borodin
Psychedelics may open up your soul records so you now remember your spirituality, but any psychedelic can do it
It's just that DMT fits better into the locks in the brain, mushrooms fit just about as good, LSD fits very well too
They may open up doors in your mind , which you may be thankful for or regretful over
I feel everyones energy now all the time, and also feel my own projections/past life karma, but I don't know my past lives
I feel that it must be that and that because of what I project onto others and of what I have a hard time letting go of. My attachments this life probably depend on my past life
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lessismore
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21928469 - 07/11/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And you don't have to post in a thread you have no experience with just because everyone else is. It's like the 5th thread I've seen you ramble off your imagined opinion about DMT and share it like it has weight or authority. You could read and talk about DMT for years and never come close to knowing what it's truly like until you've gone all the way. Seeing you compare it to meditation or a lucid dream is insulting. If you haven't found a reason to smoke it yet, what are your reasons for forging such a strong public opinion on it? I don't understand why I see you in so many DMT-psychedelic experience threads when you have 0 experience.

Try a little acceptance my friend
If you think DMT is more spiritual than anything you can achieve without the drug, you are deluding yourself and your soul
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wigglewak



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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21928493 - 07/11/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm I would say if you think spirituality is knowing what's best for other people you are doing it wrong.
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