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Universaleyeni
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trvptamine said: OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
So Do dab Riggs really work that well? I've been wondering about that. At what temperature does dmt get destroyed?
Id also like to know this answer. I was considering starting athread about it. Erowid shows "boiling" temps and other sites have conflicting info. I couldnt find anything conclusive. Ideal DMT vaporization temperature.
Also, some cool dudes on here advised me to fold a business card with the dose and let it slide down onto the nail. Another method with a slightly heated dabber, the crystals will goo up and stick to it. 
I wanna try this and get the temp right with a temp gun, and a nice proper dose. Ive heard you can breakthrough with 25mg on a nice clean dab.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Universaleyeni]
#21923181 - 07/10/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've always wanted to try DMT... but don't know if I would be up for the intensity of it. I heard that the lazyman's tek is very simply, requires little supplies, & the yields look pretty good to me.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#21923235 - 07/10/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The intensity of it still has me working up the courage to visit again
Its really worth the beautiful indescribable experience IMO
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21923236 - 07/10/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How did you ingest it? Had you taken any other drugs that night? Do you remember much of what you saw, felt, thought, experienced?
When I smoked it while sober, it felt like a cross between shrooms and opium - but vaporising it on a very hectic acid trip took me to another dimension. I would be interested to plug it if I get my hands on it again.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Universaleyeni]
#21923350 - 07/10/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've seen your avatar before.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21923366 - 07/10/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first time I smoked DMT I smoked around 200mgs on top of some high grade marijuana.
It was the single most intense thing that has ever happened to me.
It changed me forever, I confronted my own death.
This was in 2012, and I'm still processing it.
I've smoked since,not in that high of a dose though, every time it blows me away, but I always put good time between my experiences. These days I'm more into ayahuasca-analogues.
-E. Borodin
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21923372 - 07/10/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: I've always wanted to try DMT... but don't know if I would be up for the intensity of it. I heard that the lazyman's tek is very simply, requires little supplies, & the yields look pretty good to me.
Lazy mans TEK isn't that great for ACRB, due to NMT and plant lipids you need to defeat...lazy mans is great for MHRB.
For ACRB use cybs ATB hybrid salt tek or thicklights ACRB tek.
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I don't have a freezer that I could use. 1. it is always filled. 2. it doesn't get that cold.
Also is it better to use acacia confusa instead of mimosa hostilis?
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21923404 - 07/10/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Evaporate the naptha by placing it in a dish and blowing a fan over it, the crystals will form as the naptha evaporates. No need for a freezer. Though if you freeze precipitate you can reuse your solvent.
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...if you use those TEKS up until you have the saturated naptha they should work....then air evaporate your naptha.
As for freezing and thawing plant matter, it helps but is not essential...
-E. Borodin
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I read the Cybs' hybrid atb 'salt' tek but there are some things I do not understand. Maybe I am just overthinking it, IDK. I think I am going to make a thread with some questions that I have. I appreciate your recommendation for which TEK to use. Thank you.
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Bigfeely123] 1
#21923530 - 07/10/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ha! It happens to everyone! You think you need help, cosmic law,is being broken, you think call the hospital, no the fire department , no call my mom, fuck! You eventually realize that is just you and the other now, and you have to face it like it or not.
I always interpret this as dying, the first time I smoked I REMEBER being overcome with a feeling of deja-vu, I was at the foot of a foggy mountain with dirt roads, I felt like a lost child, all my human memories seemed like a distant dream, foggy and hard to remember, I was the same consciousness but nothing from my past life really held on, I knew it was death, I had to confront my own death and come to terms with it....I couldn't tell if I was breathing or not....I remember taking breaths in and still being unsure if I was breathing....my chest hurt, I looked down and saw mantis claws in my chest, which tore me open, all my organs were torn out, I was going into shock when the giant divine mantoid made a floating orb of geometrically morphing color changing light, then another and another, it filled my body with these beautiful objects....then I was sealed back up and resurrected in Orange light...then I was being pushed through I membrane, I was being born....
In reality I smoked 200mgs yellow crystalline DMT on top of high grade marijuana, I took all the DMT in a single hit, curled up in a ball and began to cry...when I came out of it the pipe was still in my hand....the tears really added to the being born part at the end, I was wondering "why is my face wet" because I could not remeber crying...
There was SOOO much more that happened that I can't even put into words, after it first happened I couldn't say anything about it no matter how hard I tried, this was in 2012, and I'm just now able to translate the key parts into language...
It's amazing, every time I go back it's astonishing, but it's also terrifying, when you do DMT properly you should be in NO hurry to repeat the experiance....
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21923621 - 07/10/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, though language does very poorly as a medium for communicating these experiences....
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You begin to fade away from your human fourm and eventually you do pass through this barrier into a completely different world of extreamily intense psychedelia that words just can't put justice too. In my experiance I could only say it felt as if I was dying and coming back reborn as a child seeing everything for the first time again
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trvptamine said: OP, next time you try it you should dab it man. Dabbed DMT is insanely profound IMO
So Do dab Riggs really work that well? I've been wondering about that. At what temperature does dmt get destroyed?
yeah man everytime ive tried dmt out of a rig rather than a dope bowl its been at least 10x as strong. I think its just cause i can inhale it all faster. I have no clue at what temperature it is destroyed though
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: Deviate]
#21923991 - 07/10/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I dont like DMT all that much, I find it to be too intense and doesn't last long enough for me to do the sort of healing work I like to do while tripping.
If you just like to be amazed or take a very brief tour of other dimensions, then you might like DMT but I am laying off it for the time being. For a little I was smoking it like crack.
Same, I'm not sure I would do it even if I got it for free
I got a LOT of p viridis and b caapi for free a hand ful of years back I still haven't tried
Ayahuasca seems more useful for healing than DMT
I don't just trip to get high, if I did I would take Salvia I want the longest learning experience, preferably 8+ hours
Lucid dreams are the greatest for me, and I bet it must be tied to DMT somehow out of body experience that lasts for hours
that's natural brain DMT probably... new universe that looks 99% like this one
except now there are no rules you can fly you can teleport you can crawl up in the air, like steps jump off buildings etc.
More fun than this reality, that's also the dangerous parts of it ;-) , can be hard to get back the more intense the trip the more dangerous too usually
High dose LSD is more dangerous usually than low dose for me Intense lucid dream is much more dangerous than non intense one
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21924009 - 07/10/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe a TRUE obe, lucid dream always gives you that feeling 'noooo i dont want to wake up, i dont want to go back to my body'
maybe DMT does that too?
I mean, you got wings and you can fly and go anywhere, you can do anything with your mind there and then you wake up trapped in a body again
you feel like you don't want to wake up, you want to prolong it
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21924090 - 07/10/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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10 times stronger fuck man if that got anymore intense I think I would just black out and have my brain explode. I couldn't even move from smoking it out of a piece
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Re: I just tried dmt and I can't believe it [Re: lessismore]
#21924152 - 07/10/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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DMT can be very helpful, but it's more of a noetic shock when smoked. The most meaningful spiritual experience of my life happened on high dose smoked DMT.
Though I do feel the natives had it right when they stretched this out into a 6-8 hour experiance with an MAOI.
With DMT smoked the spiritual and psychological work all happens long after the experience itself, I still pull heavy and deep spiritual concepts as well as psychological revalations out of experiences from 2012. It seems that your almost able to retrieve something new every time you look back at it...it really is ten billion years of experience condensed into 20 minutes.
Smoked DMT confirmed for me that there is conscious existence after death, the "melting away" or "being dissolved into nothing" feeling that comes within the first 30 seconds I always interpret as dying, DMT dissolves boundaries, and the first to go is the boundary between the living and the dead, and once you cross over its hard not to be overcome by panic or astonishment, but if you stay calm and pay attention you can bring back some amazing information.
Smoked DMT answered a good deal of spiritual questions I had, it showed me that existence is multidimensional and populated by intelligent sentient beings, it showed me that there is conscious existence after death, I've been deep into the bardo, and when you encounter these strange beings in the after death they don't seem human, but the have such a love and care for humans and relate so well to humans you can only assume these are dead people, and the natives would say "of coarse these are dead people, this is what we mean when we say ancestors"
It makes sense that ayahuasca translates to "vine of the dead" because it does dissolve the barrier between the living and the dead. I think it also opens up interdimentional and interstellar travel. These people use san Pedro and acknowledge it's spiritual power (saint Peter holds the keys to heaven, when the Spanish forced the natives to give Christian names to the practices they named the San Pedro cactus saint Peter because the cactus holds the keys to heaven) but ayahuasca and DMT preparations have specific connection to the dead.
It's not for everybody, literally some people don't have 5ht2a and 5Ht2c receptors due to genetics, or they don't have many of these receptors, these are the people that can smoke DMT without it having profound effect or little effect at all at times. They altered lab mixes DNA so they lacked the gene for 5ht2a and 5ht2c Receptor production and sure enough when injected with DMT it had little to no effect. (This is just my speculation,but explains why a small percentage of people can use and abuse DMT without any profound effect.)
This probably factors into shamanic selection in tribal societies, they pick the person who is most receptive to this type of exploration. You have to be able to grasp the implications of the experience.
Entheogenic exploration isn't for everybody, we are the modern shamansand alchemists we practice magic derived through magical decoctions made from mother nature's selected plant messengers. We can travel between the stars and back and even travel beyond death and return, we can experience non-existence,which is a mindshare you can only conceive of if you have had it, your thus open to mental dimensions others blocked to non-shamans, your inner-space has expanded, inner-space is just as big as outter space, and it's exploration is for the brave, but most importantly this who can bring back meaningful gnosis.
When a shaman drinks yage and sings into a person's mid-section then says "you have stomach parasites" he claims it because he was able to see the sound waves of his voice bounce back from the body and was able to see inside the patients body, it's the extant of the jungle, he could not do this without his plant tools. When the village wants to know who stole the chickens or where the game will be for hunting the shaman can provide this information, in the 4th dimension of inner-space the past and the future all become accessible in certain ways, and the shaman does derive accurate information. ...believe these things or not these entheogens are my vehicle for inner space exploration. If you want to go to Iowa you need to get on a plane or drive in a car, you need a vehicle, if you want to cross the barrier between the living and the dead or travel between the stars you need entheogens...either way and for wither type of travel a vehicle is essential. An astronaut needs a rocket to get to space, the human body is not capable of everything on its own, there's no shame in using tools, in fact that's part of what makes us intelligent,these plants crafted beautiful tools for humans, and humans have time tested things like DMT and mescaline and proven them to be worthy and sacred vehicles into divine dimensions.
I'll stop now, because I know no amount of language can convince someone of these things, by please don't discredit DMT and ayahuasca, these are ancient, sacred, medicines to shamanic folks, and for modern inner-space explorers and spiritualists.
Why settle for exegesis when you can experience it first hand? Why read about the after-life when you can go there and return unharmed? There's more to DMTand Ayahuasca than there appears. DMT and ayahuasca are the only entheogens I rudely fear and respect.
-E. Borodin
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