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Jackpot in Mississippi
    #21920218 - 07/09/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Me, my brother, and my best friends rode by these. We spotted them from the road; more like they spotted us. The tallest one towered over the grass. Like it was waiting for us. A total of 156 grams, wet. We brewed it into a tea, and split between five people. Very intense, but not insanely overwhelming. What do you guys think?



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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21920238 - 07/09/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha dope man


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices] * 1
    #21920240 - 07/09/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would have played rock paper scissors to see who gets the shrooms. I personally would have been eating all those to just myself. 

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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: TEAMSESH]
    #21920323 - 07/09/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ha! I have eaten comparable doses that were in the half ounce area. Its almost like over kill once you pass the 7-8g range, in my opinion.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21920330 - 07/09/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I personally pick mine for potency not size/weight. So around an eth is actually to much for me.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21920385 - 07/09/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea idk about over kill but its possible to experience the most high on a 5 gram dose low dose like 1/8ths and below depress me because your like in-between two worlds heavy dose your shoved into the abyss .

we talking about cubes though cause the other magic mushrooms like wavy caps ect are way stronger I've heard so maybe a 1/8th of those other species would be more effective idk


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: impatientguy]
    #21920400 - 07/09/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What do you use to determine potency prior to picking them? I know that a rule of thumb is that right around the time that their veil pops they are at their peak potency. Also, wavy caps are like 1.5x stronger than cubes in my experience. Definitely more for your troubles.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21923772 - 07/10/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I know that a rule of thumb is that right around the time that their veil pops they are at their peak potency.




any citation for this rule of thumb?


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: relic]
    #21923826 - 07/10/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i've always heard they produce more psilocin and psilocybin in their earliest stages. i'm pretty sure you're supposed to eat them before the veil opens because it makes them more palatable. pretty sure that has nothing to do with potency. people say that because gills taste like shit.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21925339 - 07/10/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I usually pick an hour before the viel breaks if I can.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: impatientguy]
    #21925386 - 07/10/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So are you talking fresh or dried, over kill?


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: Free123]
    #21925405 - 07/10/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure what you mean.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: relic]
    #21954611 - 07/17/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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whatisvoices said:
I know that a rule of thumb is that right around the time that their veil pops they are at their peak potency.




any citation for this rule of thumb?



Well, I thought I had a link to an article relaying this youth based potency, however it is eluding me at this moment. At impatientguy, I also try to pick directly before the veil pops when I am growing them, but the mushrooms in the OP were growing in a field, so the general circumstances were less than manipulatable.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: Free123]
    #21954616 - 07/17/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So are you talking fresh or dried, over kill?



7-8 grams dry is hashing on the over kill region, in my experience. Roughly 85-90 grams wet.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21954905 - 07/17/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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whatisvoices said:
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Free123 said:
So are you talking fresh or dried, over kill?



7-8 grams dry is hashing on the over kill region, in my experience. Roughly 85-90 grams wet.




So what would be a good dose "wet" for someone that has only consumed dry all their life?


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: Free123]
    #21955030 - 07/17/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice score dude. I also remember reading the part about picking the mushrooms just after the veil breaks. It was in one of the cultivation teks on this site I think; the author recommended picking around that time for potency, or (if you want to make more spore syringes with your caps) waiting just a little longer for spores to start showing up on the veil remnants.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: whatisvoices]
    #21955042 - 07/17/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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whatisvoices said:
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whatisvoices said:
I know that a rule of thumb is that right around the time that their veil pops they are at their peak potency.




any citation for this rule of thumb?



Well, I thought I had a link to an article relaying this youth based potency, however it is eluding me at this moment. At impatientguy, I also try to pick directly before the veil pops when I am growing them, but the mushrooms in the OP were growing in a field, so the general circumstances were less than manipulatable.




of course in a controlled grow one would try to avoid a spore-storm; i understand that.  but i've heard this gratuitous anecdote for years about the relation of age and potency and have never seen proof. 

my guess is that it's related to the age at which growers harvest (due to spore issues) and end users misinterpreting the reason why the mushrooms were harvested at that stage of growth.

it doesn't take much of a leap to think that growers who harvest at the 'correct' time are the ones who handle their product in a more careful fashion and as such conserve potency (less lost to oxidation) compared to growers who are not as careful.  in that scenario, the end user would see a mushroom harvested before or just at breaking of the veil, have a good experience due to the product being of high quality, and conflate the reason for the high potency of said product.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: relic]
    #21955055 - 07/17/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In that scenario, the end user would see a mushroom harvested before or just at breaking of the veil, have a good experience due to the product being of high quality, and conflate the reason for the high potency of said product.





Good point, that may very well be the case.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: Free123]
    #21956034 - 07/17/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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whatisvoices said:
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Free123 said:
So are you talking fresh or dried, over kill?



7-8 grams dry is hashing on the over kill region, in my experience. Roughly 85-90 grams wet.




So what would be a good dose "wet" for someone that has only consumed dry all their life?




Around 50 grams of fresh mushrooms will put you in contact with the celestial beings. Well, I can only positively talk from my experiences, but 50 grams is my sweet spot.


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Re: Jackpot in Mississippi [Re: relic]
    #21956094 - 07/17/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Right on, Relic. I have still, after a few more hours of research, not found a definitive source of fact regarding the potency of an unpopped mushroom. However, as turtle said, I am sure that I have heard the rule for forever on this site. I suppose the only way to know for sure is to experiment with mushrooms clones from their different stages of maturity.


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