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How I see the world in ~500 years
#21919779 - 07/09/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Money. The love for it is the root of evil. Now... Now, it can't be removed from our life, because people need to work (we work for money > our p. much only motivation for now), so, we need to work to provide each other with service, food and all kind of things. Let me remind you of antique - there were many slaves back then, working for nothing while the citizens could do some intellectual work. But what if I told you that technologies are improving real fast? We, humans, create robots which are capable of more and more things day by day. It's just a matter of time till we'll see robots giving us drinks at a cafe and it's just a matter of time till robots do all the physical labor. Then... Ohhh, then we won't be needing to do these fucked up jobs anymore... Robots would do everything for p. much free! We would just need to simply find the best power source to provide them with. And then the money would not be required to exist. Then we would create true masterpieces because we would all be left with one job. The true job of human beings. Create.
Humans are made to create, we live for our enjoyment and we receive best enjoyment by creating something. Everyone will be a philosopher. Everyone will be creator. Everyone will be true human being.
That's how I see future.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: hobowizard]
#21919924 - 07/09/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Robots are destined to take over and kill all the humans. Don't you watch movies?
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: Sun King]
#21919968 - 07/09/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: hobowizard]
#21922540 - 07/09/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Couldn't agree more, although I doubt it will take 500 years to get there.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21922556 - 07/09/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When manual labor is no longer needed the people in power will kill most of the humans. The money it took to have the Georgia guide stones built kinda makes me think it's serious business. Plus, the wealthy will no longer need the poor so it kinda makes sense anyway.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21922579 - 07/09/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk I personally DONT think we are natural creators we procreate and use other already created things to make new things . But being creators like god idk probably not.
our true nature is smash you with a rock or fighting for territory making baby's and eating and making baby's . I sometimes wish I lived in north America in the year 2000bc is there any history of north America 2000bc? probably hardly any illness much hair on my chest damn that be nice. Fuck flying cars fuck all that give me land food seeds of every edible plant and I'm good fuck the new world o want the stone age! Lol. What's this thread about again?
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: hobowizard]
#21923101 - 07/10/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Robots in 500 years?
Try robots walking in your street in less than 50 years, cars whizzing by with no driver. Yes in your lifetime.
It has already begun.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: TEAMSESH]
#21923189 - 07/10/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TEAMSESH said: Idk I personally DONT think we are natural creators we procreate and use other already created things to make new things . But being creators like god idk probably not.
our true nature is smash you with a rock or fighting for territory making baby's and eating and making baby's . I sometimes wish I lived in north America in the year 2000bc is there any history of north America 2000bc? probably hardly any illness much hair on my chest damn that be nice. Fuck flying cars fuck all that give me land food seeds of every edible plant and I'm good fuck the new world o want the stone age! Lol. What's this thread about again?
you described a simple mammal and human isn't simple mammal, it's much more.
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Asante said: Robots in 500 years?
Try robots walking in your street in less than 50 years, cars whizzing by with no driver. Yes in your lifetime.
It has already begun.

I was talking in general >worldwide robots> every country lives the same as others, pure equality because everyone could have what the wanted p. much for free.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: hobowizard]
#21924008 - 07/10/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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well lets see 500 years ago copernicus put forth his theory that the sun was central to our solar system not the earth. The compound microscope was also invented and used. 400 years ago the telescope was invented. Advances in math such as cubic equations, decimal notation and the development of the real number system, trigonometry and more.
From then until now we have seen exponential expansion on all knowledge regarding these concepts and more. We were for the first time able to conceptualize the microsphere and the macrosphere.
Going forward, it would be reasonable to say that our understanding of micro and macro will continue on its exponential expansion. I think that exploration and discovery of places and objects outside of our solar system will become normal. Our observation and understanding of subatomic particles such as quarks will continue in the same fashion, most likely exposing smaller and smaller pieces into infinity of whats makes up everything. We may fully understand string theory, or it may be replaced by that point. I believe will will start to see less and less silicone based technology and start to see more biological based technology. The idea of growing an organic computer is already being tested and brainets do exist now with a few mice. creating such things now leads to future questions of pushing the envelope to human brainets. Which also ties into the concept of human/tissue cloning and slavery and very matrix-like scenarios of humans plugged in for their resources.
Could be scary stuff
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: nuentoter]
#21924041 - 07/10/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Almost everything that changed in the last 500 years, changed in the last 50 years.
2025 is gonna be
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: hobowizard]
#21924238 - 07/10/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you described a simple mammal and human isn't simple mammal, it's much more.
You're right. No other mammal has ever expressed such horrific behaviors as us. Psychopathy, genocide, etc.. No other mammal has ever been so sick.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: Tropism] 1
#21924786 - 07/10/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no other mammal has ever had such beautiful insight either. Music, art, literature, etc..
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: Tropism]
#21925703 - 07/10/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're right. No other mammal has ever expressed such horrific behaviors as us. Psychopathy, genocide, etc.. No other mammal has ever been so sick.
Not true. Lots of other animals are worse than us. Take chimps for example. The probability that a chimp will die at the hands of another chimp is, and always has been higher than within homo-sapiens, even at our most violent times.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21928203 - 07/11/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You have anything to back that up? Not that it really addresses the illness I mentioned, only good old fashioned murder, which is not outside the box for any species.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: Tropism] 1
#21930498 - 07/11/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You have anything to back that up?
Yes, read Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined" Not only are many other animals much more violent than we are, but humans are actually becoming increasingly more peaceful. We are likely living in the most peaceable time in history.
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Not that it really addresses the illness I mentioned, only good old fashioned murder, which is not outside the box for any species
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No other mammal has ever expressed such horrific behaviors as us. Psychopathy, genocide, etc.. No other mammal has ever been so sick.
Genocides happen in all sorts of species all the time, don't you watch nature shows? And as for psychopathy, I sincerely doubt the rates of psychopathy in humans is significantly different from any other mammal species.
Humans are by no means the sickest mammalian species ever, nor are we the most violent, nor are we the most genocidal. I don't know why you are suggesting this. Yes it's true that modern technology allows us to kill more easily and in larger numbers than with other species, but if other species had access to the same technology we would likely see even worse results. As far as our instincts, moral sense, empathy etc. we are in no way any more evil than many other species (including other mammals).
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21930537 - 07/11/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Conflict is often followed with lots of grooming.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21930677 - 07/11/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you think that because man is not the most despicable animal, he is excused for his sins?
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So you think that because man is not the most despicable animal, he is excused for his sins?
Sins? Do you mean that in the religious sense?
I'm also not just talking about men, but women also. We should strive to be as ethically good as we can, even if that means overcoming our primitive apish urges. In no way am I trying to excuse humans for the awful things we have all done, I'm just pointing out a fact that is often forgotten: Humans are animals too. We aren't special in kind, we are just animals that evolved to have opposable thumbs, and a more developed brain than other animals. We aren't especially morally good or especially morally bad when compared with other animals. The very fact that we are able to recognize the errors of our ways allows us to correct our innate, instinctual behavior, as we see happening almost all around the world. This is a good thing.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: secondorder]
#21932743 - 07/12/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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secondorder said: Yes, read Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined" Not only are many other animals much more violent than we are, but humans are actually becoming increasingly more peaceful. We are likely living in the most peaceable time in history.
It's not violence that clues into an animal's sickness, it is the intent it was done with. Violence serves many purposes and many other species even seem to enjoy it as sport or out of boredom, they don't however seem to suffer from as chronically from the variety of mental conditions that have violent tendencies.
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Humans are by no means the sickest mammalian species ever, nor are we the most violent, nor are we the most genocidal. I don't know why you are suggesting this. Yes it's true that modern technology allows us to kill more easily and in larger numbers than with other species, but if other species had access to the same technology we would likely see even worse results. As far as our instincts, moral sense, empathy etc. we are in no way any more evil than many other species (including other mammals).
I have never seen another animal commit a genocide. A genocide is an organized extermination, an expression of a collective will. I haven't seen another animal with (seemingly) the communicable capabilities except maybe that of dolphins. Even in cases of natural species-to-species hate that doesn't add up to a genocide. Humans typically hate mosquitoes and will eradicate them from their home and habitat if possible, but this is separated from genocide by a wide-margin.
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Re: How I see the world in ~500 years [Re: Tropism]
#21934585 - 07/12/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Insofar as I can tell, Tropism is totally right. Man is the only critter that exterminates, and this separates us from the other critters in the most dubious fashion.
Above, you can substitute "man's atrocities" for "sins." I feel that in a primary sense they are interchangeable here.
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