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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21934674 - 07/12/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: If a dealer never sold you heroin you wouldnt be hooked on it 
there will always be a need for opiates, and even if we could somehow stop all illicit sales, people would still become addicted to them
its a problem that can't be eliminated, only mitigated. this is not a perfect world.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Crystal G]
#21934697 - 07/12/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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We can blame this on dealers?
That's it, I'm about to call this dude up and give him a stern talking to for doing this to me, lol.
He should let me cop for free once for the hassle he's caused me.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21934702 - 07/12/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: If a dealer never sold you heroin you wouldnt be hooked on it 
You must not understand what drives addiction. I would have simply found something else to be hooked on to escape reality. Whether it be ketamine, meth, or something else.
I'm one of those people that shoots K all day and all night every hour of the day by the way. My tolerance got so high I was shooting 500mg doses and still barely getting high. Ever seen somebody on that much K try to function in life? It's not pretty, and actually way worse and more pathetic-looking than somebody with a dope habit. At least on dope, I can eat and work and function normally.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21934724 - 07/12/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: PinPornProducer]
#21934731 - 07/12/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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speaking of heroin, check out this site, it's pretty funny
http://thatguysonheroin.com/
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Crystal G] 1
#21934821 - 07/12/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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Rebelutionsssss said: If a dealer never sold you heroin you wouldnt be hooked on it 
You must not understand what drives addiction. I would have simply found something else to be hooked on to escape reality. Whether it be ketamine, meth, or something else.
I'm one of those people that shoots K all day and all night every hour of the day by the way. My tolerance got so high I was shooting 500mg doses and still barely getting high. Ever seen somebody on that much K try to function in life? It's not pretty, and actually way worse and more pathetic-looking than somebody with a dope habit. At least on dope, I can eat and work and function normally.
im sorry to hear that I hope you can find what you're looking for and beat that addiction
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: BlackWidow]
#21935896 - 07/13/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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that demand often times carries with it a weak area of the consumer market. in some sense, it is not okay to supply someone that is killing themselves. i don't see how it is okay to give a product to someone that they intend to use that will further darken their universe and may ultimately lead to their own demise.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404] 1
#21935905 - 07/13/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, like those damned longhairs that run around poisoning our children with LSD!
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404]
#21935907 - 07/13/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it is one thing to provide a product to someone who intends to be responsible. it is entirely another to supply a person who does not and is ultimately spiraling out of control. dealers don't often times give two fucks about who they are selling to, and i would suspect this type of mindset and behavior is more common with "hard" drugs.
is it okay to provide a gun to someone who intends to misuse the firearm? suicide, killing someone, whatever? no? the analogy carries over to substance abuse.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#21935911 - 07/13/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Yeah, like those damned longhairs that run around poisoning our children with LSD!
i get what you are trying to poke fun at, but at the same time LSD is no different. however, lsd stands much more of a chance to provide some sort of critical change in a person's life, and is known to be far less addictive and detrimental to health than any hard substance... that really depends on the person. people do die on lsd, but not from the lsd itself.. typically crises arise when the person loses touch with reality to the degree where they think they can fly, or fight police, or whatever... so there's that.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404]
#21935929 - 07/13/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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say you gave someone 25x-nbome and the blotter is laid unevenly as it oftentimes is... and they get a 3mg hit instead of a 500ug hit, with no previous experience with psychedelics. on top of that they have a pre-existing medical condition or whatever. they get rhabdomylosis after seizing out and die. are you responsible for facilitating their deaths?
lets make this more relative. say you KNEW about the pre-existing medical condition, but still decided to give them the substance anyway (this scenario is more relative given that a physical addiction with many hard drugs is often more visible, ie track marks, low body weight, trouble holding a job, other life problems)
are you responsible then? or are they responsible for putting it into their own body?
the heart of the issue here lies within prohibition itself. there are just going to be people who are going to look for things to get fucked up on. legalizing these substances and the use of substances takes away the harms of the black market. the impurities, the violence... and instead replaces these with pure products, safer places to consume these products.
"if a dealer never sold you dope you'd never be hooked on it" foolish statement right there. while there is some speck of truth to that, if you never put the substance in your body you'd never end up hooked on it. the final resoponsibility lies with the user and the user alone. this does not relinquish the initial responsibility of the dealer for facilitating hte experience in the first place.
doctors are pushing away from prescribing opiates for pain relief nowadays... and for good fucking reason. so many will tell you that they had problems after taking their pain meds or that they really really liked them.
i wanna go on but i feel like i'm beating a dead horse.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404] 2
#21935994 - 07/13/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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We should lock up Ronald Mcdonald while we're at it. That cunt has been slangin' dangerous food for years! He's got the whole world hooked!
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Artnotwar]
#21936012 - 07/13/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's cute, but i'd argue it's not morally acceptable to continue selling a morbidly obese person double bacon cheeseburgers when they clearly have a problem
with that kind of logic, bar tenders should just keep slinging alcoholics drinks when they're already fucking blitzed instead of cutting them off.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404] 1
#21936098 - 07/13/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: bar tenders should just keep slinging alcoholics drinks when they're already fucking blitzed instead of cutting them off.
Exactly.
If you're too fucking drunk, stop drinking. If you're too fucking fat, stop eating. People shouldn't need someone else to tell them when enough is enough.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: PLURAL]
#21936429 - 07/13/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: Opiates are the downfall of man. I don't see anyone getting a better perspective on life while drooling on themselves and chasing their next bag of H
You've obviously never seen the last episode of House...
Lol holy shit, thats the best thing ive seen on the internet this morning.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: 404] 1
#21936501 - 07/13/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: that demand often times carries with it a weak area of the consumer market. in some sense, it is not okay to supply someone that is killing themselves. i don't see how it is okay to give a product to someone that they intend to use that will further darken their universe and may ultimately lead to their own demise.
it's not OK to sell cars or alcohol or anything else that could be misused then, how are you to know a person's intent, you're not a mind reader and it's this sort of reasoning that has led to people being charged with manslaughter and serving prison time simply because they sold a drug to someone who got themselves killed while on it. if I sold you some pain ills and you decided to take to many and you die, I could be charged, if I sell you drugs and you wrap your car around a tree and die, again, I could be charged
when I buy drugs it is because I wanted to, not because someone made me do it, if I choose to buy weed that's all on me, if I buy heroin again, it's all on me, i's clear my intent would be to use the drugs and I dont need a drug dealer or anyone else including government being my daddy about my drug use
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: TrueLies]
#21936522 - 07/13/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: Opiates are the downfall of man. I don't see anyone getting a better perspective on life while drooling on themselves and chasing their next bag of H
You've obviously never seen the last episode of House...
Lol holy shit, thats the best thing ive seen on the internet this morning.
Glad I could be of assistance.
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: PLURAL]
#21936561 - 07/13/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Someone in my town just got caught with 2 keys of heroin and 400 plants [Re: Artnotwar]
#21936585 - 07/13/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: bar tenders should just keep slinging alcoholics drinks when they're already fucking blitzed instead of cutting them off.
People shouldn't need someone else to tell them when enough is enough.
They shouldn't but they often times do because people are dumb. That's why we have fucking therapists and life coaches.
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