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Mexicana chicon nindo
    #21916487 - 07/08/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Does anyone have any experience with this strain? I am interested in its ability to produce stones.I have heard of its abitlty to produce copious flushes of fruits but it the sclerotia I'm interested in.Its my understanding that this is a very clean ride and that is what I'm looking for.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21917850 - 07/09/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

there is a thread on Mexicana somewhere current in the same section as this question is posted. Look it up. There is a lot of info there.

You have the right idea: Anything to avoid the bloat and nausea some encounter on mushroom trips.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21917858 - 07/09/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21918165 - 07/09/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey thanks for the reply but I'm really looking for info on this perticular strain.i have read easier than cubes and most other threads pertaining to sclerotia growing but there just really isn't that much info out there for chicon nindo.If anyone has experience with this strain I'm interested to know your results.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21918210 - 07/09/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i did not have luck with it forming stones in vitro.  out of 6 jars, none produced even the start of sclerotia after 2 months.  spawned to bulk, got big ass stones, and it was a prolific fruiter


ATL7 and tamps both produce stones easily in vitro for me.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21918424 - 07/09/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That is interesting,might I ask what your ratio of substrate to spawn was.Did you case and what was the sub consisted of.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21918434 - 07/09/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

for any active i always do 1:4.
sub was poo/straw/chicken poo
cased with peat/limestone


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21918511 - 07/09/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If I remember correctly, most of the spore prints of this variety currently circulating originated from CaptainFuture, who noted that it seemed to produce few to no sclerotia.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16262797/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: matsc]
    #21918731 - 07/09/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Actually the original prints of the Chicon Nindo P. mexicana are coming from elfstone and azure.
Here's the thread on them.
They gave out a lot of prints on slides to various members.
Multispore it is a pretty poor sclerotia producer, but with a little cloning/isolating you can make it decent.
These jars are just over a month old:



And here's my growlog, it might help:

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stonesun said:
P. mexicana - "Chicon Nindo" from Huautla de Jimenez, Oaxaca, Mexico.

Spores from elfstone/azure collaboration.

Sterilized rye grain spawn inoculated with agar wedge.
Substrate is horse manure, coir, vermiculite and gypsum (50/30/15/5) pasteurized
for 2 hrs.
Colonized in 14 days.

Cased with a thin layer of pasteurized Jiffy and cactus soil mix.
Pins appeared in 10 days.


First pins:

   


Just a day later:

   

   

Day 3:

   

   

Just 12 hours later:

   

 

Day 4:

   

   

   

   


Day 5:

   

   

     

Before and after harvest (notice the spore deposit on some of the caps):

   

   

   

   

Spore printing sneak peek. Looks like they are sporulating heavily!:yesnod:






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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: stonesun]
    #21918817 - 07/09/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info guys.How is the ride in comparison to say Mex a or atl?


Edited by Splinteredsunlight (07/09/15 10:14 AM)


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21918870 - 07/09/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That I don't know:shrug:


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: stonesun]
    #21919219 - 07/09/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Multispore it is a pretty poor sclerotia producer, but with a little cloning/isolating you can make it decent.
These jars are just over a month old:




wow!  did u clone from a bulk substrate or stones from a dish?


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21919334 - 07/09/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stones from a dish.
That's how I got a prolific stone producer Jalisco too, what otherwise known for
mediocre sclerotia production.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: stonesun]
    #21919394 - 07/09/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So if I were to put a drop of spores on a agar dish and look for stone production then sector that portion out to another dish correct?


Edited by Splinteredsunlight (07/09/15 11:12 AM)


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Splinteredsunlight]
    #21919549 - 07/09/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Transfer just the stone.


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Re: Mexicana chicon nindo [Re: Grey]
    #21919601 - 07/09/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Got it...thanks!!!


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