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mycomaniac1402
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Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow
#21919086 - 07/09/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This round two trays and a mini mono tub were made. Everything started the same with 8 1/2pints supplemented with manure at a 1/4 cup of field capacity per half pint along with the normal ratios of coarse Vermiculite and Brown rice flour.
Almost 3 weeks to full colonisation, then spawned to 25% Horse manure, 25% coarse Vermiculite and 50% straw. Sterilized substrate. Trays and tub took 7 daya to colonise with 3 days consolidation before casing.
Cased with 50/50 Vermiculite & Organic jiffy. Sterilized.
Five days after being put directly into fruiting pins were spotted. Casing misted twice and pins popped after second mist.
Fruiting chamber is same as past grow. Tub with 3 holes in back and 6 in front. 3 Air tubes ran into the back and one in the top of the mono. Ran to go off every 4 hours for 30 mins. System has worked great for Pans every time . Happy to answer any questions and hope the post was detailed enough.
Happy growing and will update along the way


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Trays before & after being cased and mini mono after.



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And mono tub with pins popping ... I can count about 20 but only a few are noticeable. Trays have pins also but I dont like sticking my hands in there , I'll snap a pic when they are bigger and easier to see

And an APE clone I received as a gift.. no room but ill mess with it later after I clear things up a bit. Its looking really good and has grown out totally since and has a line of pins starting
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Looking great! Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: Greasehoot]
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: Grey]
#21920036 - 07/09/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's wats up
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: mushmagic]
#21920104 - 07/09/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks people 
Looking forward to seeing how the final pin set is compared to last. Its looking good so far for both trays and tub. Will be able to see alot more tomorrow after they mature a bit...
I forgot to add that every successful Pan Project ive worked with has had a substrate depth of no more than 1 & 1/2" Im seeing better results with a bit over an inch and it seems to be the sweet spot. Ive failed in the past to fruit any substrate over 2" for whatever reason. Takes them longer to eat up the substrate, dont know but they fruit Really well and fast using a thin sub of mainly straw.
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow *DELETED* [Re: mushmagic]
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: Sadburner]
#21923602 - 07/10/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK I've got a question. So the substrate depth should be 1/2 - 1 inch but what about pan-cakes and waylitjims pan cyan tek? The cakes are are thicker than that and the pp5 containers in waylitjims tek are way deeper than 1 inch. So does the 1 inch sub layer only apply when you're using trays?
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: Greasehoot]
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Quote:
Greasehoot said: OK I've got a question. So the substrate depth should be 1/2 - 1 inch but what about pan-cakes and waylitjims pan cyan tek? The cakes are are thicker than that and the pp5 containers in waylitjims tek are way deeper than 1 inch. So does the 1 inch sub layer only apply when you're using trays?
OP says they are 1-1/2" thick... not 1/2" - 1"... hope this helps.
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Thanks, I see that now. Whoops.
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Re: Another Pan Cambo " goliath " grow [Re: Greasehoot]
#21924050 - 07/10/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey , sorry I didn't answer earlier but yes hes correct. 1" to 1 1/2 " seems to be the best.
And I used to talk to Waylit back in 2007 when I first started. He taught me alot about pans and I obtained my first prints from him , best genetics ive ever worked with in a print. But anyway, he used almost exclusively isolates and mycellium solution in his grows. Most of what you see are larger pp5 he used but he was able to do this using a mycellium syringe made from growing out isolates and squirting sterile water into the petri and using this to inoculate his substrate. Hence being able to fully colonise larger containers with no problems and have uniform flushes. He did have a few multi grows I saw but not many and most of my conversations with him stated this.
Pics coming soon , theyre alot more noticeable now.
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Thanks for the response! I have made some syringes from two prints. I am going to use a baby bottle liquid culture tek that I've been using for cubes over the past few yers with great success. I was going to follow waylitjims tek or Macmerdins pancake tek. Do you think the LC route is good at first then maybe grab the biggest fruit (assuming I CAN fruit it!) and clone it to agar?
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Nice! Do the blue tubes do something else other than bring more humidity into the chamber?
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Just air, no humidity from anything other than the perlite. Actually next time im going to do away with it totally and just rely on the casing for moisture. Unless its winter and really dry im finding its not needed with Pans
Its a 127 gph Aquarium pump spliced twice for four outputs . Three in the large bin and one for the mono. Just a easy way to provide air for me without opening the lids alot and seems to work well after I got it set correct on the timer... Some people cant stand using them , I wouldn't use one with an air stone though.
Oh and the filter in the air pump was taken out and replaced with a cut to size myco synthetic disc filter so its not just blowing dust all over the casing.
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Getting there , not a great pin set but im happy

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Haha. God these little guys are freakin crazy potent 
You can taste the psilocybin as soon as they hit your mouth. I miss judged a dose or two and man a little bit off and your in for a ride !
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Just a few pics before harvest. The caps can go a bit more on alot but I have alot to do so im gonna grab em now. Not bad size but the caps aren't as big as the last run. Second flush maybe? Anyway it was a success and now whatever could go wrong Can lol

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Quote:
mycomaniac1402 said: Haha. God these little guys are freakin crazy potent 
You can taste the psilocybin as soon as they hit your mouth. I miss judged a dose or two and man a little bit off and your in for a ride !
yea they are! Broke out the mg scale on these. 300mg was a decent trip but 500 mg would be ideal imo. The whole ride had a real good feeling .
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Exactly, I always start at .35 of a gram and if I want a full on trip its just under a full gram. But a full one is pushing me to my limits. They are sooo good when eaten FRESH . The best mushrooms experience ive ever had! 
A couple harvest pictures... Not a bad yeild for multi spore.



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sweet!! Nice haul!!
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Second flush is coming in, there very uneven but lots of pins, still small. The second tray that didn't produce is looking very good and looks like it will be even.The other tray that did on the right is spotty. The mini is doing well but again really un even.

And a cool shot of some aggressive Pan mycellium showing some Rizo
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ahh omg those are so nice. Thanks for posting those pics man
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Second flush on the mono, it put out a monster, well on a Pan scale at least lol , now on the printing press. And a tray thats pinning quite nice compared to what it put out before.


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And second flush done on the mono. Came out surprisingly good. This grow surprised me especially with the trays and mini being spawned with 1/2 pint cakes.. Never underestimate the usefulness of PF cakes

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Awesome grow!! I was wondering how much success you've had with sterilizing casing materials vs pasteurizing them? I thought sterilizing the jiffy mix/verm would lead to a higher rate of contamination since beneficial organisms are destroyed and mold spores could grow more easily?
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Thanks for the kind words sir 
Ive always done my substrate the same way, Granted I never open my lids on trays, mono as I use clear lids to see whats going on.
I put my ingredients in a pot of water, set the oven at 300°f and let it rip for 3 to 4 hours. When I can smell the straw, manure cook its done, usually 3 hour mark. Its probably not sterilized but its definitely over pasteurization temps. My theory is the less mold spores your starting with the better, this method has always worked with me and ive never had to throw a contamed tray, tub away before the third which is when they go anyway. And if there was a problem with sterilizing a sub, I would have seen it by now. Granted I dont grow like a mad man and at a constant
And ive Always sterilized my casings, limes added to Jiffy so its ph d already and ive never had a problem since ive started using it. I guess id say whatever works, dont change it no matter what other people are doing. But if your having contamination issues , try it and see. Its just what has worked for me , and I never change unless I see a problem arise
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I've never heard of oven sterilization for manure, but if it works for you then more power to you. I've always bucket tek'd my coir substrates even when using additives such as worm castings/coffee grounds and had 5/6 tubs that didn't contaminate. But, I've heard countless TC's swearing by using pasteurization methods. My yields have always been on the smaller side, probably because some beneficial nutrients/microorganisms were destroyed during the high temps used during my sub-sterilization procedures. I want higher yields, especially for my next mono, and if I have clean spawn mixed with pasteurized subs(as recommended by most growers), I bet I can pull off a massive first flush.
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Ive seen it done, but mostly in oven bags. I like to squeeze the substrate out by handfuls to get the correct moisture, just what im used to.
And I hope your grow goes off without a hitch and you get some nice fruits , did you say Pans or are you going Cubensis , I forgot :-)
Ive been at this for a bit more than 6 years with a break in between. Ive seen alot, experimented with many different systems so ive found my groove. Everyone has their way that works best for them. After getting fired up again im looking for an All American Pc like the one I had years ago, this is the one thing im missing and opens up a few options.
I dont think pasteurization has anything to do with your yeild , its all culture and genitics.
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I'll definitely have to experiment with new techniques to see what works best, its all about trial and error.
And I'll be working with cubes this time around, as I still have two fully colonized brf paste jars that I want to utilize.
I've only been growing for about 6 months, so I still have plenty to learn in this hobby .
And I'm working with a presto right now and it's easily the best investment yet, never had a problem with it. All American PC's are steep in the price range, is there really any other benefits to using it other than being able to fit more quart jars?
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Never used a presto but I hear seals go bad, the AA is a fuckin tank and will last a lifetime. I did everything in that thing, soups , venison stews and myco stuff. Alot of people have good things to Say about it though , just a bit small. Talking the presto... I lost the AA during a move, expensive loss
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You can definitely use a presto no prob but the AA's are durable as fuckk and youll never have to replace a seal because its a metal to metal seal.
They also have a lifetime guarantee.
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Awesome chamber!
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Nice pics!
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