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OfflineMuhfreedoms
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some kind of panaeolus
    #21918060 - 07/09/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry my pictures aren't too great but this is all I can get:

http://i.imgur.com/j02vLN3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qu5CNe7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hooSsaa.jpg


EDIT:
took a few more pics:
http://i.imgur.com/xyptNgI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YUrhRZD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YgIYYhO.jpg

only ever had cubes a few times and they have a smell resembling that, not sure if that's because it's just the mushroom smell lol. Grass was cut like 3 days ago and since we've had nothing but stupid amounts of rain and then a few small spells of sun. British weather!

Habitat:
http://i.imgur.com/5P5MxlK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/it4R4HS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jube9Su.jpg


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #21918204 - 07/09/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are there any other pictures I should get? Noticed bare people viewing and nobody has responded so it's making me wonder if I need any other pictures lol.


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #21918220 - 07/09/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The key photo you are missing is one of a spore print. This will be very helpful in identifying your find.

The habitat looks right for Panaeolus and the overall appearance (Although the photos aren't super clear) of the mushrooms also resemble Panaeolus. Any guess at what species they are would be a stab in the dark at best for me. Someone with a better idea will chime in and help you out soon enough.


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #21918252 - 07/09/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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buddingshroomer said:
The key photo you are missing is one of a spore print. This will be very helpful in identifying your find.

The habitat looks right for Panaeolus and the overall appearance (Although the photos aren't super clear) of the mushrooms also resemble Panaeolus. Any guess at what species they are would be a stab in the dark at best for me. Someone with a better idea will chime in and help you out soon enough.



thanks. I took some more pictures and tried to get them in a bit more even lighting.

http://i.imgur.com/92KtVl7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LCXS4MD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yE4mboA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UFnASXV.jpg

hope they're any better

Here's the spore print:
http://i.imgur.com/VR0LM7w.jpg

They were quite dry when I did it because I left them when I picked them for a good amount of time. Hopefully that's something though. Looks black


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #21918338 - 07/09/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that print is too faint to be of much use
you may want to dry those and set them aside until you get some fresh ones you can print from the same area.

they do look like panaeolina to me so don't get too high hopes, but prints will tell.


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #21918341 - 07/09/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those photos are a lot better. They look a lot like cinctulus or foenisecii to me... but I'm no expert.

You are going to need a much denser spore print so you can discern between jet black or dark brown. the one you've got is alright, but i cant tell if its black or brown. Maybe leave one printing overnight?

If they are Panaeolus (which i think they are) Black spores would indicate Panaeolus cinctulis or Panaeolus Ovilaceus whereas brown would likely indicate Panaeolus foenisecii

Either way, you shouldn't consume them until a TI gives you the thumbs up.

(Because I'm just a random dude on the internet)


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #21918358 - 07/09/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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RuralAnomaly said:
that print is too faint to be of much use
you may want to dry those and set them aside until you get some fresh ones you can print from the same area.

they do look like panaeolina to me so don't get too high hopes, but prints will tell.





Yeah, yours guess looks good but most mushrooms look the same to me :/ the only thing that differs with mine compared to your suggestion is most of them have a nipple or more of a stubbier nipple than the pics on the wiki suggest for that one.



they do look like panaeolina to me so don't get too high hopes, but prints will tell.



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buddingshroomer said:
Those photos are a lot better. They look a lot like cinctulus or foenisecii to me... but I'm no expert.

You are going to need a much denser spore print so you can discern between jet black or dark brown. the one you've got is alright, but i cant tell if its black or brown. Maybe leave one printing overnight?

If they are Panaeolus (which i think they are) Black spores would indicate Panaeolus cinctulis or Panaeolus Ovilaceus whereas brown would likely indicate Panaeolus foenisecii

Either way, you shouldn't consume them until a TI gives you the thumbs up.

(Because I'm just a random dude on the internet)





Yeah, Just went back outside now because they going to cut the grass. Got a spore print incoming.


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #21918364 - 07/09/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Panaeolus foenisecii...those are more carmel colored, whereas the cints have more of a copper to grey color. Definitely not active.


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #21918375 - 07/09/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

of course, i wish you luck!

you can put a teacup or something over the cap you're printing so it won't dry as fast and give it a bit more time to drop a healthy spore print.  they're so thin and small they do dehydrate pretty fast, especially foes imo


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Re: some kind of panaeolus [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #21918389 - 07/09/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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DeTwizzle said:
Panaeolus foenisecii...those are more carmel colored, whereas the cints have more of a copper to grey color. Definitely not active.




i guess i like putting them in a 'rough spore group'


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