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MinnesnowtaNice
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LSA is not a joke 3
#21916874 - 07/08/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys I just wanted to make a thread about this and maybe we can clear up some of the debate about this drug and get all the info right here.
Yes. It is a psychedelic drug and can be a very powerful one. The most common place to find it is in Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds or heavenly blue morning glory seeds, I will say in my experiences the morning glories seem to be more potent in the summer or whenever your gardening season is.
Can we please stop comparing it to LSD because it's not even in the same ballpark as far as visuals go, can we just call it a LSA trip? LSA is magical and I would compare it to shrooms/mda/ and mescaline. It has a very profound euphoria and Lovingness about it that is hard to beat IMO, much like mushrooms and MDMA.
LSA potency in seeds is almost impossible to determine and is always varying, as I said before it seems the seeds are more potent in the summer or whenever gardening season is in your area, growing your own would be optimal. Potency in Hawaiian baby woodrose should be steady as long as you get the right strain( from Hawaii, not Ghana)
In low doses of morning glories + weed I've experienced things I would consider spiritually moving, great insights into the world and an immense body high.
In large doses I've had profound out of body experiences, traveled to distant lands, and conversed with the gods.
The reason it doesn't get as much love is it makes a lot of people sick, I will say that I've chewed up and eaten all my doses and have had minimal issues with nausea and never had to do an extract. That being said most people will prefer the extract, use more seeds if your going this route.
To anyone looking into this beautiful chemical know that vasoconstriction is a very real side effect of this trip and is more noticeable than with other psychedelics, my cure for this is 3 ibuprofen and garlic.
Keep mints, ginger, tums or any thing else that helps you cobat nausea near by if you feel sick, and know that throwing up is always the best option if you are really uncomfortable, I've found that if you can wait 2 hours before doing it you will have already absorbed most of the LSA and will still work.
The most I've ever tripped on LSA was 3 times in 8 days, because of the vasoconstrictive properties of the drug, it's wise to not exceed this amount in a short time period.
LSA is magical and I will say it has giving me my favorite psychedelic experience to date, and I've taking real LSD on many occasions. Notice how I said it have me the best high, it didn't necessarily get me the highest I've ever been though.
Do some research and enjoy!
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Hayoxp
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I agree with this thread simply because my first trip with MGS was amazing. I tried chewing 420 but ended up puking some and ate 250 in total. Smoked cannabis and voila, amazing mescaline-mdma like trip.
Of course with this dose it was rather mild but I was able to enjoy myself even without music, just left to think on my bed about things.
My LSA Trip was the first trip that I accepted everything as life, one. It's so smooth with shroomy visuals.
The sucky part is that I tried ingesting 400 again by chewing and the taste was horrible even though the seeds barely have a taste. It's like my body knew what it was right away and wanted to puke it up.
Chew the seeds for the real deal Extract twice as much as you were trying to take in the first place.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: Hayoxp]
#21916996 - 07/08/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And if you say it doesn't work you either 1 got the wrong seeds 2 puked before they could anything 3 had weak seeds
The potency means everything I've had profound experiences on 227 seeds And great times with 150
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LoveNaborFuckHater
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Nice report, I'm interested in looking into LSA more now. I read something about the seeds aren't active if you just eat them straight up? Is that true?
Do you guys buy the seeds by the package, search and pick, or grow your own?
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MinnesnowtaNice
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That's not true at all they will certainly work and are more active that way IME.
But as far as the morning glories you have to get a certain brand there is only one that is active, burpee heavenly blue. I can't say exactly where they would be but any packages by that exact type and brand should be active. Note: check the back for a label to see if they have been treated with pesticides, it would be a purple warning label if it was there, they have to put it there it's the law, so if you don't see it your good to go. It's very serious though treat it with respect, it has much to teach.
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I'm planning on putting very many hours of study into it. I grew mushrooms and with the grow process it forces you to learn every small detail of both the plant and the chemical. I feel like there's nothing that can teach you more than growing yourself. Many people are educated on Marijuana but I'm sure the real knowledge comes with growing and extraction.
Would it be worth the time growing it though? I feel like it would be a more meaningful trip because I was so attached to my mushrooms it made every trip mean so much to me.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Yes. Absolutely. I'm not positive but there is some pretty interesting research on growing them yourself and the potency level being extremely high when they are babies or very immature seeds. Worth looking into and giving a try either way.
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Dr.Satan
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I took MGs yesterday I ate 6g heavenly blues ground up and it was pretty awesome. I was definitely not hit as heavy as I'd been before on them, but it was a greatly enjoyable experience. The first time I ever took morning glories the experience was phenomenal! I remember the main part of the trip everything felt so magical. I remember staring at a shiny label on my NOS bottle for what felt like an eternity just admiring the way the light reflected off it.
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21917237 - 07/08/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I imagine that they wouldn't be too popular with people. I'm not sure if I could find someone to trip with on them. People who aren't educated on psychedelics are usually pretty timid about LSD and mushrooms, let alone a plant they've probably never heard of.
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Could anyone tell me if from experience, if the trip is about the same with consuming ground seeds vs extracted seeds?
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I absolutely love LSA. Before i tried it i was under the impression that it wouldnt be vary visual and more of just a thoughtful trip. Boy was i wrong. 8 HBWR seeds produced visuals more intense than 1/8th of shrooms usually does for me.
The thing is ive only tripped after eating the ground up seeds. Ive tried to make LSA cold water extraction 3 times with 11 seeds each time and distilled water. The third time i made it i added lemon juice also and still no luck.
The reason ive tried to make the CWE so many times is because the seeds are just horrible on the legs and stomach. And im not at all willing to work with acetone, naptha, or methanol which ive seen in all the non-CWE extracts
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My first time with LSA I chewed up and ate 14 HBWR seeds, along with some Damiana tea later on. It gave me some of the best kaleidoscopic visuals and one of the most spiritual experiences of my whole life, where I was able to feel the air's movement like silk on my skin, and had out of body experiences from seeing the room around me with my eyes closed, to the cat I heard in the other room, to the birds and cars outside and eventually to far reaches of the earth before viewing the earth from outer space. Of course I know it was all in my head, but it still influenced my life in an immensely powerful way. It made me fall in love with nature.
Every time since then though, it's been nauseating and far less powerful. Or at least in it's positive aspects, the more neutral ones like the extreme slowing down of time occured every trip (especially when smoking). Just as strong, but far less visual.
And for some strange reason, the comedown has always been my favorite part. It's just so fun and uplifting, usually coming after what seems like a day's worth of melancholia fit into 6-8 hours. The end still makes the whole trip worth it though, and no matter what I learn something about myself from the experience.
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Trip is the same IME, but dosage is obviously different.
And who hasent heard of morning glory seeds? They sell 4 varieties at the gas station down the road from one of those cardboard vegetable/plant displays. At least I figured they are a pretty damnable common flower when it comes to packaged flower seeds.
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: nuentoter]
#21917608 - 07/09/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You ate 8 and 14 seeds? I thought it took about 200?
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Dr.Satan
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Quote:
PlantStudy said: Could anyone tell me if from experience, if the trip is about the same with consuming ground seeds vs extracted seeds?
From my experience the cold water extraction is weak compared to eating the ground up seeds. I did the cold water extraction method with 8g of heavenly blues and it barely did anything, and then I ate 6g heavenly blues from the same bag last night and had a solid experience.
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Dr.Satan
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LoveNaborFuckHater said: You ate 8 and 14 seeds? I thought it took about 200?
HWBR is more potent LSA wise then MG seeds are. With HWBR you don't have to shovel down masses of ground seeds.
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21917619 - 07/09/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh I didn't realize they were different plants, is it the same trip if an even level dose were taken or does it differ?
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Dr.Satan
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I've never taken HWBR only MG seeds, but it's the same compound that gives the effect so I'm sure it's the same. The only difference is with HWBR you would get to avoid eating hundreds of seeds and only have to eat 10 or whatever. So HWBR is the best way to go if you are able to get it, but MG seeds are everywhere as a last resort. Just make sure to get the ones marked heavenly blue.
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21918157 - 07/09/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like hbmg better than hbwr.
Y'all double your seeds now for the CWE like the man said. This weekend was 600 blueMG + 3 hbWR. CWE 45 minutes stirred not shaken, no acidification...
Older seeds seem to work better after aldehyde recombination / adduct formation.
I filtered well then added my cumin tincture and shook cold.
Classic LAA is very euphoric like bright shrooms makes sense right considering the plants are hosting the direct ergoline creator symbiotic fungi, a Claviceps species.
This cumin adduct is very holy feeling and meditative with some stimulation that I trembled near peak. Jigsaw vision.
The cinnemaldehyde adduct is fast and powerful.
Adduction is best accomplished with old seeds that have already become mainly sedative in effect.
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Re: LSA is not a joke [Re: hayabuser]
#21918357 - 07/09/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Non toxic non-polar oils can be used for that step instead, peanut, canola, several others.
But with a short CWE no shaking and good filtering nausea is minimal anyways; maybe 1/5.
A straight methanol pull evaporated to tar may be even cleaner.
I've had the most fantastically colored CEV and open eye like water running down a lens.
Great for musicians.
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Has anyone ever had this from LSA? I misestimated the dose and ate 500 morning glory seeds once. They were completely uncoated, I got them from a special supplier who sells just for the purspose of eating. What followed was the strongest trip I have ever had, it was not visual at all, nothing was morphing or moving, but my mind was exploding, I had almost complete ego death, it was such a profound experience that it took me about a week to get back to normal. But that's not the strange part. Basically during the trip an incredible weakness overtook me, I couldn't stand up, I had no energy to stand on my feet, so I just lay on the floor and then managed to crawl onto my bed. The next day I was still very very weak, I couldn't stand for more then 10 mintues. At the end of the day I couldn't get up from my chair I was so weak. I ate nothing but chicken broth for 3 days and at the end of 3rd day I got my strength back. So all in all it was a crazy experience, and it's definitely nothing like LSD, particularly because I feel like it sedates your body while keeping your mind kicking and that produced a profound experience. I wouldn't do that again though I feel like that kind of weakness is can not be normal or healthy. I later read that LSA is classified as a depressant, that explained it for me.
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Quote:
MinnesnowtaNice said: Hey guys I just wanted to make a thread about this and maybe we can clear up some of the debate about this drug and get all the info right here.
Yes. It is a psychedelic drug and can be a very powerful one. The most common place to find it is in Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds or heavenly blue morning glory seeds, I will say in my experiences the morning glories seem to be more potent in the summer or whenever your gardening season is.
Can we please stop comparing it to LSD because it's not even in the same ballpark as far as visuals go, can we just call it a LSA trip? LSA is magical and I would compare it to shrooms/mda/ and mescaline. It has a very profound euphoria and Lovingness about it that is hard to beat IMO, much like mushrooms and MDMA.
LSA potency in seeds is almost impossible to determine and is always varying, as I said before it seems the seeds are more potent in the summer or whenever gardening season is in your area, growing your own would be optimal. Potency in Hawaiian baby woodrose should be steady as long as you get the right strain( from Hawaii, not Ghana)
In low doses of morning glories + weed I've experienced things I would consider spiritually moving, great insights into the world and an immense body high.
In large doses I've had profound out of body experiences, traveled to distant lands, and conversed with the gods.
The reason it doesn't get as much love is it makes a lot of people sick, I will say that I've chewed up and eaten all my doses and have had minimal issues with nausea and never had to do an extract. That being said most people will prefer the extract, use more seeds if your going this route.
To anyone looking into this beautiful chemical know that vasoconstriction is a very real side effect of this trip and is more noticeable than with other psychedelics, my cure for this is 3 ibuprofen and garlic.
Keep mints, ginger, tums or any thing else that helps you cobat nausea near by if you feel sick, and know that throwing up is always the best option if you are really uncomfortable, I've found that if you can wait 2 hours before doing it you will have already absorbed most of the LSA and will still work.
The most I've ever tripped on LSA was 3 times in 8 days, because of the vasoconstrictive properties of the drug, it's wise to not exceed this amount in a short time period.
LSA is magical and I will say it has giving me my favorite psychedelic experience to date, and I've taking real LSD on many occasions. Notice how I said it have me the best high, it didn't necessarily get me the highest I've ever been though.
Do some research and enjoy!
ummm how can you say LSA doesn't compared to LSD but LSA compares to mushrooms? it makes no sense seeing as how mushrooms give more visuals than lsd
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