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datura or belladona with shrooms?
    #21916028 - 07/08/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yea i know how extreme and danger they are...
so would a small dosage of belladona or datura enhance the trip...have anyone done it before?


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: oontribe]
    #21916060 - 07/08/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A dose small enough to enhance and not overpower a shroom trip is a dose that will make you incredibly tired. Any more than that and you will have uncontrollable full blown hallucinations with the anxious shroom headspace

Would not recommend


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21916091 - 07/08/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thanks man :smile:


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21916095 - 07/08/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like hell, and a recipe for ending up accidentally harming yourself, your sitter or some unsuspecting bystander.  Just. Don't.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21916179 - 07/08/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Tha's a little like asking whether 5 bullets in a 6 chamber revolver would make for better Russian Roulette than just one.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21916256 - 07/08/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I stayed up all night during the last bloodmoon out in the hills with my friends cooking flying ointment made from Datura root. Decided to eat a whole eighth of shrooms the next day, not paying heed to the contra-indications with sleep deprivation. Even after having smoked two bong-bowls full of Datura leaf to try and induce sleep to no avail, I still ate an eight about 2-3 hours after having smoked the bowls.

The trip was actually kinda sub-standard, no visuals, but there were some body feels. I was pissed as hell because the group of eight I was tripping with had gone out into the hills to try and avoid people, but got distracted and decided to chill on some cliff faces that overlooked the trail. Not even after being there for ten minutes, with the shrooms really kicking in, this 15-year old chick who's in a gross pedo relationship with one of my 20 year-old friends (who I cut out of my life as a result of this experience) literally stalked us out to where we were and decided she was just gonna invite herself into our little party. The next three hours were spent being an asshole to everyone because no one could handle their shrooms and it was like tripping with a bunch of 12-year olds. I ended up bailing without any parting words and was able to just get some much needed rest in the safety of a different buddy's house.

I don't think the Datura really contributes to the experience much at all. I've smoked it mixed with bud during LSA experiences, and it still doesn't add much to the visual aspect. I was using the leaves more for nausea control anyway, though. The root and seeds are where the real hallucinogenic power is, as per traditional native medicine.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: oontribe]
    #21916902 - 07/08/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah OP.. definitely do NOT take Datura with shrooms. Shrooms are beautiful by themselves, if you want a stronger trip then just eat more shrooms.. Datura is an evil hallucinogenic delirium. :shrug:

I really can't imagine this combo working out at all, and would not recommend it to anyone based on the Datura trainwreck reports alone at Erowid.

Save yourself, leave the Datura alone, smoke some cannabis instead.:thumbup:


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    #21917091 - 07/08/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I routinely eat 2-3 datura stramonium seeds to kill any nausea from any psychedelic especially mushrooms


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21917108 - 07/08/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That is because datura is nothing but an incredibly potent antihistamine (aside from any potential alkaloids). You could obtain the same anti-nausea remedy by taking a much safer antihistamine like diphenhydramine or doxylamine


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 3
    #21917127 - 07/08/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I understand what datura is. That's why I eat it.

Datura feels cleaner and works better than OTC shit.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21917323 - 07/08/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

what about belladonna? just curious thats all...i dont think i would take em to enhance the mushroom trip.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: oontribe]
    #21917354 - 07/08/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Atropa belladonna? Never consumed it myself.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 1
    #21917930 - 07/09/15 03:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've used one of those scopalamine patches before. Can confirm that it feels cleaner than OTC stuff like diphenhydramine. It feels scary clean.

Feels like you haven't done anything at all until you realize you're out of it, but even realizing you're out of it, you don't feel out of it. Like I said, scary clean. It's no surprise to me that people get into trouble with deliriants.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: nooneman]
    #21917938 - 07/09/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haven't you read about Datura? :grin: Just eat more mushrooms man... :mushroom2:


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21917954 - 07/09/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Haven't you read about Datura? :grin:



Of course. Reading deliriant trip reports on erowid is something of a hobby of mine.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #21918273 - 07/09/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

To be honest, the "Datura is evil" circle-jerk gets annoying real fast.

Any drug is evil if you take a massive dosage and know nothing of the drug's effects. People who demonize a plant because it has deadly potential are hardly any different from the people that demonize something like MDMA because it kills a few people at festivals each year.


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21918401 - 07/09/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I routinely eat 2-3 datura stramonium seeds to kill any nausea from any psychedelic especially mushrooms



.....says the man with 3 toes on one foot ....the result of a massive overdose of a RC....Yeah, I really trust his opinions.:bow2:


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #21918491 - 07/09/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ok be a dick. n00b


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21918579 - 07/09/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not trying to be a dick and def not a noob Zombi..I'v got more time here than you...Just sayin that if I were you and been through what you've been through....not sure I'd be giving dosage advice ....especially fucking deleriants!

Sorry I doubted your esteemed credentials here.:sunny::peace:


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Re: datura or belladona with shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
    #21918589 - 07/09/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've read enough bad trip reports that I wouldn't even want to chance it, just my feelings though. OP is probably going to do it either way. Do some serious research & after see if you still want to do datura. Good luck. :cheers:


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