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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: zappaisgod]
#21921514 - 07/09/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No I haven't, what's it about?
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: zappaisgod]
#21921582 - 07/09/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I identify as male.
Incorrect. That is an outdated term. You identify as cis male.
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Govam said: You're born biologically male or female, sorry. There are certain hormonal errors, endocrine dysfunctions and birth defects that can change what you have physically. Anything beyond that is just a mental disturbance or conditioning by vegged out parents.
You can't alter your biology with cosmetic surgery, and even with hormone treatments you might as well kill yourself. Hope for your preferred chromosomes next go-round. Neither of these "solutions" focus on the real underlying mental disorder. Even if you want to talk in new age terms, there is obviously a miscommunication between your ascended self, your conscious mind and what's between your legs.
I always want to ask these people if they enjoy picking seeds out of their weed. They can't be smoking feminized strains, gender is a social construct after all.
Approaches which focus on "the underlying mental disorder" do more harm than good. Conversion "therapy" is inhumane and results in a mutilation of the person at best, but quite often results in trauma and sometimes suicide.
I'm kind of surprised how little familiarity people have with this issue and its victims-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Leelah_Alcorn
In fact, trans people are happy and healthy when they are allowed to live in their identified gender. The mental disorder-- gender dysphoria-- occurs when this is not possible. Furthermore, sex reassignment through hormone therapy and genital surgery is not "cosmetic".
You're new here, so you'd do well to know we have quite a few trans members on the Shroomery, myself included. I don't appreciate being told to kill myself. IMHO you are off to a bad start here.
Your post is funny because of the increased rate of suicide among post-op trannies. When did I preach therapy? Go do whatever you want, but I'm not supporting your mutilation, funding it, or altering my vocabulary to suit you.
Just kidding. At some point we all have to realize your ego is so huge, you assume all human interaction you have is a game of pretend aimed at making you feel fuzzy inside. This applies to all sick individuals who are separated from reality.
It's not that I'm new to the shroomery. It's that being offended inside your internet clubhouse is new to you. Obviously being ostracized and looked down upon is familiar, and new venues for self hate are just another milemarker in your life.
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: Govam]
#21921640 - 07/09/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's that being offended inside your internet clubhouse is new to you.
It's actually not,
Don't take it personally. She gets offended all the fucking time.
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: Govam]
#21921680 - 07/09/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did you know that the research you're citing is outdated and flawed? Also, "tranny" is a slur, just in case you'd like to modify your vocabulary so as to be less offensive.
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Go do whatever you want, but I'm not supporting your mutilation, funding it, or altering my vocabulary to suit you.
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 1
#21921689 - 07/09/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was playing coy.
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 1
#21921780 - 07/09/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh wow, he blocked me.
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: zappaisgod]
#21921972 - 07/09/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: No spoiler. Pulitzer winner. Great book. You should read it. Trust me. Have I ever steered you wrong?
I'll be sure to check it out sometime soon
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: millzy]
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why not?
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Re: I don't think gender identity is real [Re: D.M.T]
#21922454 - 07/09/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I identify as male.
Incorrect. That is an outdated term. You identify as cis male.
Actually, he had it right.
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who honestly gives a fucking shit ill tell you me and 99% of most people
Majority rules
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The Doobie Dude said: who honestly gives a fucking shit ill tell you me and 99% of most people
Majority rules
Think you might be overestimating that figure just a bit.
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nope honestly most people just carry on with there own business and could give a shit less
people think their shit is made out of gold and no one gives a flying fuck
social media can convince you otherwise i get it
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I was playing coy again. Sentence structure. Yours could use some work.
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NO ONE GIVES A SHIT
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