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    #21914905 - 07/08/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi folks,

I'm looking forward to my first cactus experience in a few weeks. I will do a tea or evaporate it into a tar, but I have no experience creating a tar so far.
I thought I'd give it a try with mushrooms first. A quick research told me that this kind of mushroom -tar I wanted to create is called "goo", and it should work fine.



So here is what I did.  :coffee:

At first, I ground my mushrooms (3.5g) to a very fine powder, put this powder into a small jar and filled the jar with clear water. I also added a small ammount of lemon-juice to help the extraction.

Apparently I forgot to take a picture of the filled jar, so just imagine a jar with some mushroom-powder, filled with water. ^^


This jar I left standing in the dark for 4 hours, shook it a bit every half an hour or so. Filtering was done with a teafilter put onto a strainer onto a cup.
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This took a few minutes untill all the liquid seeped through, then I compressed and gently squeezed the filter. This was the only filtering, so lots of spores went through.
A second pull was made by using less water and less time (1 hour), but the same filtering-process. Here's the resulting liquid of both pulls.
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This liquid then was put on a wide plate, the plate in the oven with only the light on and the door keept open a bit.
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About 6 hours later the water was evaporated and I scraped off the remaining solids.
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The residue was mainly sticky and gluey, so everything but dry. I managed to roll little tripping-balls and stuck them all together to one big wet chunk. It does not seem to dry anymore.
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I'm pretty excited as I'm going to ingest this little black piece of wonders in about an hour. Will report back, you guys have a nice time!  :thumbup:

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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21914921 - 07/08/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm surprised I haven't see this done before. Tell us how it goes!


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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Achillita]
    #21914951 - 07/08/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, it's new to me, too.

I wonder how potent this goo is or how much of the magic is lost during this time-consuming process. It's the result of an eight (3.5g).

There are lots of spores in this goo, next time I'll wait a few hours more to help the spores settle to the ground of the jar, before decanting carefully. Should lead to a much cleaner and smaller result.

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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21915590 - 07/08/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, this takes some time to hit.

I swallowed the whole chunk at once about 2 hours ago. For one hour I felt nothing, but right now I'm peaking on a mild level 2, for 20min or so.

No OEV, but very nicely saturated colors, some mild tracers when I move my hand in front of my eyes, some melting yellow-green strokes in the distance whith eyes closed.
But there's no real bodyhigh, surprisingly there is no nausea or even the slightest discomfort in my stomache. Usually I get at least a potbelly or a grumbling stomache.. but this feels so clean, so light, so mild.

Feels more like LSD to me rather than shrooms. It's all the bright and light stuff without the heavy, drowsy feeling, but with a noticeable mild trippy-headspace.. I like it.

For now it's not comparable to the amount of shrooms I put in there. It feels much more like half an eight than an eight.
I guess either the shrooms were bunk (they were stored not in the fridge but in a pretty warm room the last week), or there truly is some loss of magic doing this extraction.

Greetz :mushroom2:

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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21916079 - 07/08/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm gonna guess that any loss would be from the extraction. Supposedly an acid breaks down psilocybin into the psychoactive psilocin. That's why the lemon tek works so well.

Also psilocin is pretty unstable with oxygen unless it's in water or in mushrooms. So I'm guessing the evaporation would have caused the majority of the loss. Or it could have been that it didn't extract all the goodies. If you used heat to extract it, you would have lost little, which is why mushroom tea works.

BUt if it was from evap time, I think there are machines to help evaporate liquids without open air. Vacuum evaporation or something like that.


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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Achillita]
    #21916477 - 07/08/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good job with the whole procedure. What kind of mushrooms? And they were dried, I presume?


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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21918090 - 07/09/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Supposedly an acid breaks down psilocybin into the psychoactive psilocin. That's why the lemon tek works so well.
Also psilocin is pretty unstable with oxygen unless it's in water or in mushrooms. So I'm guessing the evaporation would have caused the majority of the loss.




Yes, that's what I think, too. Next time, if I will ever repeat this tek, I won't use any lemonjuice.
The lemonjuice also made the residue so sticky I guess as it won't evaporate as quickly and clean as water.


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Good job with the whole procedure. What kind of mushrooms? And they were dried, I presume?




Thanks. They have been self grown cubes of the B+ strain, dried of course.
But they have not been stored in the fridge but at roomtemperature the last weeks, and it was pretty hot in here (about 33°C / 90°F for 24/7).
The shrooms have been dry but kind of soft, not crackerdry but squeezy.. Maybe that's also a sign of potency-loss.


I had a great time, though. And with cactus I won't make a tar. I will make a tea or just eat the whole plant raw.

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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21920004 - 07/09/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks. They have been self grown cubes of the B+ strain, dried of course.
But they have not been stored in the fridge but at roomtemperature the last weeks, and it was pretty hot in here (about 33°C / 90°F for 24/7).
The shrooms have been dry but kind of soft, not crackerdry but squeezy.. Maybe that's also a sign of potency-loss




You must try it again some time with mushrooms that are recently dried and give a report on that.


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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21920054 - 07/09/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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jesuisravi said:
You must try it again some time with mushrooms that are recently dried and give a report on that.




I will.  :thumbup:

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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23812730 - 11/08/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Have you tried it again without the lemon juice ?


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Re: Mushroom -tar , or goo [Re: M.T]
    #23812988 - 11/08/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would not skip the lemon juice next time for sure, ime it actually helps prevent further oxidation because of the vitamin C which is an antioxidant. I always make tea (or extractions) with abscorbic acid because I've noticed that I have no bluing (oxidation) when I do so, without it my tea will often turn blue which is the result of a breakdown product of psilocin caused by oxidation. It does convert the psilocybin to psilocin which is less stable, but I suspect the psilocybin would be less stable w/o the abscorbic acid than the psilocin would be with it. Your extract was not fully dried either, if you fully dehydrate it you'll have a very hygroscopic crystaline like mass which means that this is not a good method for long term storage because it will likely be prone to bacterial growth and mold. I'm not sure if you can dry it w/o reduced pressure, I have not tried it. You can see some bluing in your extract too, that's likely the cause of the weak trip.


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