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Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' 2
#21914575 - 07/08/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33312962
Pope Francis has requested to chew coca leaves during his forthcoming visit to Bolivia, according to Bolivian Culture Minister Marko Machicao. Coca, the raw ingredient for cocaine, has been used in the Andes for thousands of years to combat altitude sickness and as a mild stimulant.
Mr Machicao said the government offered the Pope coca tea and the pontiff had "specifically requested" to chew coca. The Vatican has not yet commented. The Pope travels to Bolivia on 8 July.
Coca leaves were declared an illegal substance under the 1961 UN convention on narcotic drugs. But the growing of coca leaves for religious and medicinal purposes is legal and licensed in Bolivia.
Many indigenous Bolivians consider the coca bush a sacred plant and chewing its leaves or brewing them into a tea is very popular. Bolivia's 2009 constitution even declared the coca leaf "a cultural patrimony".
President Evo Morales, who used to be a coca grower, has long campaigned to decriminalise the consumption of coca leaves. If the Pope were to chew coca leaves during his visit to the Andean country it would provide strong backing for Mr Morales's campaign.
"We will be awaiting the Holy Father with the sacred coca leaf," Mr Machicao said.
The Pope's visit to Bolivia is part of a larger tour of Latin American countries which will also take him to Ecuador and Paraguay.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: rajajuju]
#21914693 - 07/08/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The greatest pope the catholic church has ever known. it's a relief to have someone in power with common sense.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: ellomello]
#21914786 - 07/08/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is great, he is respecting the cultural traditions of a sacred plant that has long history of use. And only recently has been abused to such an extent. I bet there's gonna be some sort of backlash from someone who doesn't like the idea of it.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Achillita]
#21915305 - 07/08/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Respecting the cultural traditions? He knows his old evil ass will get sick from altitude sickness, if he does not chew the leaves or drink the tea. He does not give a shit about respecting cultural traditions. He's even calling for a new world order, but you don't see that in the evening news:
http://www.charismanews.com/world/50444-pope-francis-calls-for-new-world-order-again
http://www.naturalnews.com/038477_Pope_world_government_New_Order.html
And please, watch this, it's 3 parts:
Post your comments below =)
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: PlantSeeker]
#21915408 - 07/08/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even if it is just for altitude sickness, then so be it. It's still a push for the coca plant. And while I didn't watch the videos, the link about Pope Francis wanting "marxism" is idiotic. Wanting the betterment of human's social enviroment and not wanting people to destroy ecuador just to make money is not evil.
I'll watch some of the videos when I get on later though.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Achillita]
#21915436 - 07/08/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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His new world order can start with giving food and water to people who are starving and need water....
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: pineapple3]
#21915543 - 07/08/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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needs to go smoke weed in DC
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Achillita]
#21915558 - 07/08/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lets see if those thoughts change after you watch the video and see how the holy catholic church is at the heart of it all and running the show. If people only knew...
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: PlantSeeker]
#21915595 - 07/08/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
PlantSeeker said: Lets see if those thoughts change after you watch the video and see how the holy catholic church is at the heart of it all and running the show. If people only knew...
I know John Paul II was gangster, killed off the first after 33 days
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: misterogerz]
#21915666 - 07/08/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
misterogerz said:
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PlantSeeker said: Lets see if those thoughts change after you watch the video and see how the holy catholic church is at the heart of it all and running the show. If people only knew...
I know John Paul II was gangster, killed off the first after 33 days
At least you know whats up.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: PlantSeeker]
#21915802 - 07/08/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Ihateyou]
#21916254 - 07/08/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i agree that the catholic church is evil, but this pope does some good things. Perhaps it's only manipulation, but at least it seems like something positive.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: ellomello]
#21916269 - 07/08/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ellomello said: i agree that the catholic church is evil, but this pope does some good things. Perhaps it's only manipulation, but at least it seems like something positive.
Gotta keep up the manipulation to look good. Can't appear as though they are evil. But what good are the little good things that they appear to do, when the evil they do crushes all that 1000x over? Did you watch that documentary?? Anyone?
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: PlantSeeker]
#21916390 - 07/08/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You scrubs act like this is new. Pope John Paul II drank KAVA while visiting with the pacific islanders. Way more intense than chewing coca leaves . Dude may as well have a cup of strong coffee if thats all it takes for you to act like hes some revolutionary . Hell there was a previous pope (I forget who) that used to drink COCAINE fortified wine on the daily
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Almond Flour]
#21916417 - 07/08/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe you guys should actually LEARN about the Catholic faith instead of revealing the ignorant shmucks you are surrounding the issue. And feel free to refer to my signature about your beloved Pope Francis. Hes a great guy, with lots of interesting stuff to say.
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Edited by Almond Flour (07/08/15 07:04 PM)
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: ellomello]
#21916435 - 07/08/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ellomello said: i agree that the catholic church is evil, but this pope does some good things. Perhaps it's only manipulation, but at least it seems like something positive.
What are you 12? Because the pope is gonna do some mildly taboo drugs its something "Positive". What a joke!
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Almond Flour]
#21916556 - 07/08/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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what are you an assh## wait don't answer that iam only 12 i was mostly referencing bringing attention to the environment, and i've heard other good things more than any other pope.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: ellomello]
#21916565 - 07/08/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ellomello said: what are you an assh## wait don't answer that iam only 12 i was mostly referencing bringing attention to the environment, and i've heard other good things more than any other pope.
Ya because liberals twist his comments into bullshit, and think hes suddenly gonna secularize the Church. Even IF that was his desire its not gonna happen.
You will not get your guilt free birth control
Your homosexual sacramental marriages
Or anything of the sort!
All you will get, is the reassurance that your dogs will be there in heaven
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: Almond Flour]
#21916730 - 07/08/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's good to remember that it is mostly manipulation, probably to make the catholic church more appealing.
Also, keep in mind he IS the catholic pope, has already pissed off a lot of traditionalists.
There are problems with any religion, but he can't change everything.. They would just kick him out or something. Have to work in the system.
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Re: Pope 'plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit' [Re: ellomello]
#21916739 - 07/08/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ellomello said: it's good to remember that it's mostly manipulation, probably to make the catholic church more appealing.
Also, keep in mind he IS the catholic pope, and has pissed off a lot of traditionalists.
There are problems with any religion, but he can't change everything.. They would just kick him out or something. Have to work in the system.
But thats my argument here. You know NOTHING about the Catholic Church or its workings. There are been such corrupt popes in the past, and not one of them could be "Kicked out".
The pope also is bound to Church Tradition. He can not suddenly change dogma simply to please the masses, even if he WANTED to
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