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Is it safe to use your phone for private messages
#21912772 - 07/08/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Or are cellphones tracked more than computers?
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#21912787 - 07/08/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont kn0w
use privnote.com
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Sheekle] 1
#21912881 - 07/08/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I Don't know , wouldn't care , I'm not a criminal , atleast not a criminal the Feds would be after. Imagine all the people with cell phones and the percentage of people they'd have to pay to track these random criminals. The boss doesn't want to pay people be doesn't have to , and tracking the entire worlds cell phone is a bull shit job. ?
If our private messages were being tracked by the feds why does serious crime like the Boston bombing still occur ? , I don't think these PMs are preventing crime but instead causing people to be paranoid and watch the words they say over the phone. thinking twice is the rule of posting on the Internet , so think twice if you don't want "them" to think .. you , ... prefer "they" to be assassinated.
I don't think Im important enough to be tracked
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: JayZ Morgan]
#21912892 - 07/08/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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True. Thanks man, sometimes I get overly paranoid and throw myself into like full blown anxiety attacks over little shit. Like I'll spend hours reading shit online just freaking myself out before I realize I'm just loosing it over nothing
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21912909 - 07/08/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I read all your text messages, actually. I'm saving all the juicy stuff to share at your funeral during the eulogy. Pleasant dreams, Pip.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Great Scott] 1
#21912955 - 07/08/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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when the cops arrest someone, they often immediately go through their phone.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 2
#21912971 - 07/08/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They got a little gadget called the stingray that lets them remotely tap into whatever is on your phone. Along with the NSA surveillance unless you run airtight security. Encrypted communications, memory, and eliminate other vulnerabilities like the backdoors theyve installed on a lot of devices already through coheresive measures you wont be able to hide anything from anyone. So to answer your quesion no.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Great Scott]
#21912973 - 07/08/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol I like getting paranoid for extra excitement - but I never try believing in what I'm afraid of because once you beleive in something you're admitting the existence. The paranoia is there and it can save you but dont let it control you.
Our house Is in the process of moving and I was paranoid about the activities going on here but the housing agents who came over just made sure we were prop 215 patients and they didnt ask about what mushrooms the green house or jars were for. I guess they could read the labels butnwe did tell them about growing fungus lol. Nothing is labled correctly anyhow. I'm still paranoid and want to get rid of things but the home owners aren't worried.
I left my phone with my sister over the weekend while the family went to Oregon and i was paranoid that my grandparents would read my text messages and look through my pictures so I cleaned the house.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: JayZ Morgan]
#21912995 - 07/08/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your grandparents would snoop through your phone? Damn, grandson.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Great Scott]
#21913568 - 07/08/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude who fucking cares?
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Bassfreak]
#21913609 - 07/08/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's a pretty wide definition for what passes as "terrorism" these days. Being the open minded type and talking about open minded stuff can pass you off as a dangerous person under the new laws. If the elite have it their way, anybody who is a terrorist will be depopulated under agenda 21 once they enact agenda 21 completely if they are successful, that'd be starting between the next year and 2018. They probably will be successful so yes, it matters. If you don't think so just give it a little time.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21913640 - 07/08/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In general it's best to avoid using your mobile phone for anything drug related as much as possible. And in particular don't mix with people who draw the wrong attention. When the police tap someone's phone, they'll listen to their calls and identify all their contacts and investigate them. So you gotta make sure not only yourself but the people you also communicate with are t being watched.
The best way I think is as bodhi said, using encryption and VPN's and those kinds of things. The problem is most people can't grasp it or can't be bothered with it
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Sheekle] 1
#21913660 - 07/08/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: dont kn0w
use privnote.com
It's not safe. Don't trust third party communications with sensitive information.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: teamkiller]
#21913663 - 07/08/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: when the cops arrest someone, they often immediately go through their phone.
Which I believe is now illegal without a warrant. There's an easy fix for that problem.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21913666 - 07/08/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: Or are cellphones tracked more than computers?
Everything is tracked, you're not high enough on their radar to be worth taking down likely, and they know this. Cellphones are computers too.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21913712 - 07/08/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the authorities don't care about the small fry, so as long as you're not a major drug supplier you should be OK.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Lucis]
#21913733 - 07/08/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fennario said: I think the authorities don't care about the small fry, so as long as you're not a major drug supplier you should be OK.
Until you get busted for something small and then they go though your phone and find a few more things on your phone and then fuck you in every orifice they can find.
Getting busted these days would be a whole lot different than 13 years ago. If you leave a trail, you open yourself up for a lot more trouble than you were originally in.
Sure the FBI/NSA might not be interested in your bullshit petty criminal interactions. The police on the other hand, this is just you handing your ass on a silver platter.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Artnotwar]
#21913990 - 07/08/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering how much effort they put towards dealing with certain narcotic issues. I've seen them dealing with half pounds and still considering that small time so less than ounces and were talking it's not worth all the money for them to put tracking on you or is it like there's thousands of people busting small time guys for possession? This is all hypothetical of course
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Edited by Rebelutionsssss (07/08/15 08:53 AM)
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21914178 - 07/08/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are billions of people on this earth. I'm willing to wager that half of them are more interesting enough to spy on than you are. Just saying, haha.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21915354 - 07/08/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, at the end of the day it is illegal, and if you were caught doing whatever it is you do you'd be arrested and in alot of trouble, so I think it's wise to reduce your risk as much as possible. I.e. Don't use your phone, talk in person or something
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Soulidarity]
#21915536 - 07/08/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I went over this thread and didn't see anyone mention PGP.
PGP stands for pretty good security and there are 100 programs that you can install that does it.
Pretty much heres what PGP is
1st you generate a key(encryption) that's yours. You set up a super complicated passphrase, mine for example is about 100 letters/numbers/symbols long. Then you set a name and email address. Make all of that fake like your name could be Fuck You Bro and your email could be get.off@these.nuts.
now you have your own PRIVATE key. You will now send your PUBLIC key to the people you want to exchange messages with. Be sure that when you send your key it says public at the beginning and not private. You never share the private key with anyone ever. So now you sent your public key to me and I sent you mine and you imported it. Now with that same program open up notepad. Which ever program you decide to use it will usually be on your taskbar, when you right click it you'll see notepad or clip board.
So in this your write me a message then you highlight it and hit copy, then right click on the program on your taskbar and hit something like encrypt with public key. Then you'll select my name from the key you imported from me and it will encrypt the message and put it into your clipboard automatically. Now goto gmail and type my normal email address in and paste the encryption. Once I get it I'll copy the entire message including the ----- into the notepad that you get to from right clicking the program from the taskbar. once I paste the encryption into the notepad that you sent me when I right click the program once more I have a new option....decrypt. Now it'll ask for the password of who it encrypted to.
it's major bad ass. I use it along with many others. Once you get use to the process it takes only minutes to send a message. Even android and apple have super easy PGP apps. mine on android let's me export the encryption or public key via gmail and imports keys from my clipboard automatically. it's beast mode.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: ShootinD5nukes] 1
#21916033 - 07/08/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You wan't to hear paranoid??? My dad tried to log in to his router a couple weeks after I explained to him what Linux was and he accused me of breaking his computer because Linksys kept coming up in his wireless menu. (he has a linksys router but I still don't think he beleives me when I tell him that is his router). Fucking Bonehead.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: saenchai]
#21916410 - 07/08/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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saenchai said: There's a pretty wide definition for what passes as "terrorism" these days. Being the open minded type and talking about open minded stuff can pass you off as a dangerous person under the new laws. If the elite have it their way, anybody who is a terrorist will be depopulated under agenda 21 once they enact agenda 21 completely if they are successful, that'd be starting between the next year and 2018. They probably will be successful so yes, it matters. If you don't think so just give it a little time.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Soulidarity]
#21916461 - 07/08/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: In general it's best to avoid using your mobile phone for anything drug related as much as possible. And in particular don't mix with people who draw the wrong attention. When the police tap someone's phone, they'll listen to their calls and identify all their contacts and investigate them. So you gotta make sure not only yourself but the people you also communicate with are t being watched.
The best way I think is as bodhi said, using encryption and VPN's and those kinds of things. The problem is most people can't grasp it or can't be bothered with it
don't phone taps require federal warrants though? i mean it's always been my impression that if your phone is tapped you're either involved with a murder, some serious organized crime or are suspected to be part of a terrorist cell. for some reason i don't think the feds are worried about some dudes growing shrooms or ordering small amounts of drugs for personal use off the darknet. i could be wrong though.
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Edited by millzy (07/08/15 07:16 PM)
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21916542 - 07/08/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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As long as you war drive to a VPN service and then use the onion network to relay PGP asymmetrically encoded messages you should be fine.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: millzy]
#21916553 - 07/08/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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millzy said: don't phone taps require federal warrants though?
They require warrants to be legal, not to simply be done of course. Just like private citizens, govt employees can and regularly do break the law.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: millzy]
#21916622 - 07/08/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes they probably need some kind of approval or authorisation but for yourself it's probably safest to assume the worst has already happened and seek to prevent further damage. Minimise risk as much as possible in any scenario
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Soulidarity]
#21916640 - 07/08/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh yeah, i'm not saying to not exercise caution. but realistically we're talking about an enormous amount of resources along with high level authorization that's way above local pd. if you're attracting that type of attention you might as well throw your phone away and bounce somewhere without an extradition treaty in place with the states.
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: DieCommie]
#21918587 - 07/09/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: As long as you war drive to a VPN service and then use the onion network to relay PGP asymmetrically encoded messages you should be fine. 
this guy gets it
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: ShootinD5nukes]
#21919677 - 07/09/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Is it safe to use your phone for private messages [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21920027 - 07/09/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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short answer is no. If you don't want to be tracked unplug the battery from the phone, it's the only way to be sure. Don't have a removable battery? I suppose you could get a Faraday cage
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