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zZZz
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zZZz said: that stuff never ceases to give me horrible nightmares..
Melatonin is cheaper than acid 
it;'s cheaper than tylenal
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Stonehenge
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Re: sleep [Re: zZZz]
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Try glycine, I take 10gm at night and have gotten to sleep every night I've used it. I do vape a little too, to make sure but I've been able to cut back on that. Some people use up to 20 gm a night, its totally non toxic and about 2 cents a gm if you buy it right. I got mine on flea bay.
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Stonehenge said: Try glycine, I take 10gm at night and have gotten to sleep every night I've used it. I do vape a little too, to make sure but I've been able to cut back on that. Some people use up to 20 gm a night, its totally non toxic and about 2 cents a gm if you buy it right. I got mine on flea bay.
Never heard of this. Looks like it's an amino acid, do you have any idea about the pharmacology of it or what role it plays in inducing sleep? Really curious because it seems like a natural solution to insomnia like melatonin, but melatonin doesn't really work for me.
My sleep schedule has been pretty turbulent throughout the past few years of my life but lately I've been getting really tired around the same time every night and I'm usually out like a light in like 5 minutes. If something wakes me up in the middle of the night (happens like 90% of nights) then it's kind of a crapshoot if I'll fall back asleep or not. Regardless my insomnia is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. Insomnia is fuckin' brutal. It's very hard to adjust to living on very little sleep.
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Stonehenge
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Melatonin is a hormone, glycine is an amino acid which is totally different and works in different ways. Its not a knock out, but you don't get tolerance or nasty side effects. There is research on using it to prevent a number of diseases.
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Glycine is one of the non-essential amino acids and is used to help create muscle tissue and convert glucose into energy. It is also essential to maintaining healthy central nervous and digestive systems, and has recently been shown to provide protection via antioxidants from some types of cancer.
Glycine is used in the body to help construct normal DNA and RNA strands—the genetic material needed for proper cellular function and formation. It helps prevent the breakdown of muscle by boosting the body’s levels of creatine, a compound that helps build muscle mass. High concentrations of glycine are found not only in the muscles, but in the skin and other connective tissues as well. Almost 1/3 of collagen, which keeps the skin and connective tissue firm and flexible, is composed of glycine. (High amounts of Glycine are also found in gelatin, which is a form of denatured collagen). Without glycine the body would not be able to repair damaged tissues; the skin would become slack as it succumbed to UV rays, oxidation, and free radical damage, and
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Shroomslip said: Yeah, I would. But people react differently to medication. It works for me and almost nothing does. Not without some horrible side effect. My only other 2 options are Trazadone which makes me sick as hell, completely stops my sinuses up, and I'll spend the entire day feeling groggy and out of it or Ambien which just makes me crazy and do all kinds of shit I normally wouldn't do.
Spent my whole life with insomnia and am pretty desperate for sleep these days. If you can get by without getting addicted to a benzo I would say do it, but I'd rather be addicted then continue on with the sleep patterns I have normally.
I've had insomnia all my life and stopped taking Trazodone(350mg) a few months ago after about three years on. I started getting into the habit of sleeping every other day without meds and it was driving me insane. I started taking Mirtazapine and it works with less of a body hangover.
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You guys should try melatonin I bought some the other day and I've taken approximately 1.25 mg and approximately 2.5 mg and I've gotta say it really helps with sleep
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I'm out instantly, I focus on nothing, click, click, gone. I recently learned the amazing power of a sleep mask. Only light thwarts my sleep.
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from when i make a conscious decision to go to bed i usually fall asleep pretty quickly, like 15 mins tops usually. any longer than that im gonna take a couple hits off a bowl then i fall asleep in like 5 mins
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MagicMush123
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Lucky guy lol... Today I took 3 mg and took 2.5 hours to fall asleep.. Fuck
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Depends on what I had in my body that day.
If I was sober, maybe 20 minutes
If I was on stims earlier, maybe 1-2 hours.
If I had a lot of caffeine, can be anywhere from negligible-4 hours.
If I had weed, maybe 3-4 minutes
If I had weed, 5-HTP, and 3mg melatonin I always fall asleep within 2-3 minutes unless I am still peaking on stimulants or a psychedelic.
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