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B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please.
    #21910413 - 07/07/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi. This my first ever attempt to grow mushrooms and the entire process seems to be taking way longer than it should. It took about a month to cover a jar with mycelium. Now they have been their terrarium for about 20 days and still no pinning, just fuzzy. They are in a 10 gallon tub with a aquarium pump pumping in fresh air through a air stone, a terrarium heat rope and heat pad keeping it between 72-77 degrees F, and about a dozen holes in the tub for exhaust. The only thing I can think of that is causing the problem is the light which is indirectly on about 3-6hrs a day. Its a GE 26w 120vac 60hz CFL. Any help would be much appreciated.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910426 - 07/07/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why that fruiting chamber? Is there any source for humidty?


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910435 - 07/07/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

could be alot of envormental stuff but ive had mycellium that just didnt want to fruit as well


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #21910454 - 07/07/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The humidity is at 99-100% via aquarium pump and air stone in distilled water.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910459 - 07/07/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: mrbart4444]
    #21910464 - 07/07/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully. The only thing I can think of it the lighting not being good enough.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910488 - 07/07/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Woahh man ur making the whole process much more difficult then necessary. No need for the air stone and heat pad and all that crap. Just fallow the BASIC brf tek like as seen on mushroom videos.
Also did u dunk for 24 hours and roll in vermiculite? Cus it looks like not.
Make a SGFC with 5" of damp perlite. And just get a plain lamp and cfl bulb for ur light source. On a 12-12 schedule. Mist + fan 3-5 times a day.

Good luck and happy growing!:mushroomtwirl:


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: LumpyNutz]
    #21910563 - 07/07/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man, I've been there. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21007416/fpart/1/vc/1 ;     sorry there aren't any more pics :frown: but it's very relevant to what you're doing because you are starting out just how I did.

Listen to the guys that know their shit and read as much as you can.

I wouldn't say genetics alone are fucking you. It looks to me like that setup is just as garbage as the one I fell for.

Make yourself a ShotGunFruitingChamber (SGFC) and do it right and proper.  I'm not an expert by any means but I'm more than willing to work with you and correspond with you so that you don't make as many mistakes as I did.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: LumpyNutz]
    #21910601 - 07/07/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In the things that Ive read, Ive never heard of dunking. So thanks for the info. Ill get to work on that now. And my terrarium is kinda like a SGFC just with a air pump. Constant humility and air flow.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910607 - 07/07/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ya. I made it myself so its probably not the best.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: litnapalm]
    #21910664 - 07/07/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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litnapalm said:
In the things that Ive read, Ive never heard of dunking. So thanks for the info. Ill get to work on that now. And my terrarium is kinda like a SGFC just with a air pump. Constant humility and air flow.




I'd toss the whole setup and start from scratch. I had the same bullshit airpump terrariwhatever and it was complete garbage.

shotgun that bitch and start producing pinporn for us.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: Fheyr13]
    #21910761 - 07/07/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed. Toss the setup and build an SGFC. Follow the "PF Tek" to a T.

A lot of your cakes don't look like they're fully colonized either. I think I also see some bruising on one of the cakes, indicating lack of humidity. The "Fuzzieness" you're describing is also most likely due to lack of Fresh Air Exchange (FAE). You should have intense, direct 6500k lighting for 12 hours a day. No offense, but you have some reading to do friend.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: Ganon]
    #21910786 - 07/07/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys. Thats what I'm gonna do. Start from scratch. But they are all colonized. I just hadn't wiped off all the substrate that was stuck on a couple of them from birthing.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: Ganon]
    #21910892 - 07/07/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Agreed. Toss the setup and build an SGFC. Follow the "PF Tek" to a T.

A lot of your cakes don't look like they're fully colonized either. I think I also see some bruising on one of the cakes, indicating lack of humidity. The "Fuzzieness" you're describing is also most likely due to lack of Fresh Air Exchange (FAE). You should have intense, direct 6500k lighting for 12 hours a day. No offense, but you have some reading to do friend.





Yea why has nobody mentioned this?

Your "cakes" aren't even close to full colonization. They're still trying to eat the rest of the grains! You took them out way too early, they're competing with other organisms as we speak.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21910904 - 07/07/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I don't think you can save this ship- best just to read up on here and start anew. PFTek to start off with. SGFC. Roger Rabbit's notes is a good read too, although some of the information is outdated.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21911171 - 07/07/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mhmm. I wouldn't even let them fruit. Not worth the risk of mold surfacing and sporulating while you're sleeping.

Once a mold shoots it's spores everywhere, you've increased your chances of getting contamination in your future projects.

And no, they aren't fully colonized.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: Ganon]
    #21911213 - 07/07/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Word of advice on filling jars: avoid over packing the substrate in. This creates no room for air and moisture to move through and stalls them for, what is your situation, a month or more.

You still have a lot to learn. Once you've failed enough(as we all did), go read through a LC and mono technique and start learning.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21911225 - 07/07/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck LCs. Too risky. Agar is much better.

But for now forget about that. Just learn the PF Tek and about SGFCs.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: Ganon]
    #21911856 - 07/07/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Many ways to skin a cat. I've had much success with liquid inoculant.


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21912042 - 07/07/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Welcome to shroomery! :shroomeryhead: dont get discouraged man, i reccomend what they said: build a sgfc TO SPEC and follow pf tek to the T and you cant lose. Good luck man, sending good vibes your way :vibin:


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #21912472 - 07/07/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Guys. Ill get to work on that


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Re: B+ VERY Slow Growth. No Pinning. Help Please. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21912673 - 07/07/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Many ways to skin a cat. I've had much success with liquid inoculant.



But for anyone starting, agar is the far better choice. It will teach sterile techniques. Might fail at first but he'll get bad ass techniques. I feel liquids are the step after mastering agar. Besides it's common practice to test all liquids cleanliness on agar. It'll tell you if your lc or li is clean. If you don't do that first, you just get bitchy about failing with liquids.


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