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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: Transgender children [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21911702 - 07/07/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe this is meant to happen for population control.




No, they no longer castrate in most western countries. That still leaves out sexual reproduction though. Yay adoption!

If this was population control I think free anticonception would be a better and much easier solution.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Beanhead]
    #21911715 - 07/07/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hope to have kid(s) someday :shrug: It's something I need to get on top of sooner than later though, go to the fertility clinic and so on but I would adopt if I couldn't have my own kid(s). Hopefully I'll be ready by my mid thirties.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Beanhead] * 1
    #21911745 - 07/07/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just here to weigh in... And i gotta say, wow. Please never adopt, sophi. It's one thing to be supportive of your child with whatever and whoever they feel they are, it is entirely another to give your children surgery before they are developed enough mentally to even know any better. Yes i saw your posts. No i don't think it justifies specifically what i just stated. It is completely irresponsible to do so as a parent.

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Re: Transgender children [Re: 404]
    #21911763 - 07/07/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I do not think that that is what she is advocating


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21911765 - 07/07/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I hope to have kid(s) someday :shrug: It's something I need to get on top of sooner than later though, go to the fertility clinic and so on but I would adopt if I couldn't have my own kid(s). Hopefully I'll be ready by my mid thirties.



:awedisgust: That is your actual grotesque personality trait. Forget the transgender issue....its hardly even an issue. The whole "Gonna have kids by my mid 30's" trash that is infecting our society is the REAL threat to the American family. Fuck Gay marriage. Shit doesnt even exist


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #21911769 - 07/07/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Then some radical feminists decided they didn't like us and used their political strength at the time to set us back another 40 years in the 70's. This is some touch-and-go shit.




Well, at least you aren't alone. Radical feminists try to ruin fucking everything. And they have the public/political backing to actually get change in their favor.. that's the scary part.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911775 - 07/07/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Marriage is a legal construct and waiting to have kids in your mid thirties is quite a sound plan


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Shroomism]
    #21911800 - 07/07/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
Then some radical feminists decided they didn't like us and used their political strength at the time to set us back another 40 years in the 70's. This is some touch-and-go shit.




Well, at least you aren't alone. Radical feminists try to ruin fucking everything. And they have the public/political backing to actually get change in their favor.. that's the scary part.



They have much less power than they used to. They are losing influence and dying out. Not a moment too soon. No group of feminists has been so appallingly misogynistic.

I think it's funny how we argue all the time about feminism but few know better than I do how dangerous "feminism" can be when it gets to be about denial and dogma. Radical feminists are why trans people have struggled to win the most basic rights while the LGB's get everything and a bag of potato chips. We're doing better now because they started dying.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21911806 - 07/07/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Marriage is a legal construct and waiting to have kids in your mid thirties is quite a sound plan



Its a bullshit plan. Its a stupid ass plan that leads to infertility, contraception , abortion, and a million other plagues in society. Marriage is a religious uniting of 1 man and women together. Thats what it started out as, and will always be. If gay folks wanna play make believe to benefit on their taxes thats fine, but you can not unite a man and women together in the same way a male and female can be united in a spiritual sense


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Gorlax]
    #21911809 - 07/07/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It would be pretty interesting to do a life study on transgender children and see how far they actually get in life before leaping in front of an oncoming train. Cuz sadly I bet most regret the decision once their frontal lobe develops.





suicide is very high amoungst trans gendered people, as shown by this thread society makes being trans very dangerous and taboo.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #21911829 - 07/07/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It would be pretty interesting to do a life study on transgender children and see how far they actually get in life before leaping in front of an oncoming train. Cuz sadly I bet most regret the decision once their frontal lobe develops.





suicide is very high amoungst trans gendered people, as shown by this thread society makes being trans very dangerous and taboo.




A reasonable argument. Or does the trans lifestyle, and mutilating yourself while taking a soldiers dose of hormones make you a tad "unstable"


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Gorlax]
    #21911833 - 07/07/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ehh I think it's all bullshit. Considering all of a sudden the human race decided it wanted to have a gender identity crisis yet it hasn't really been an issue before.



Its okay. Nature will keep churning out anomalies just like it always has.

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Not my argument. I don't believe we had gender identity crisis going back 2000 years...



Eunuch. Ofcourse the etymology runs a little deeper then your daily "man without dick" thinking.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911843 - 07/07/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
It would be pretty interesting to do a life study on transgender children and see how far they actually get in life before leaping in front of an oncoming train. Cuz sadly I bet most regret the decision once their frontal lobe develops.





suicide is very high amoungst trans gendered people, as shown by this thread society makes being trans very dangerous and taboo.




A reasonable argument. Or does the trans lifestyle, and mutilating yourself while taking a soldiers dose of hormones make you a tad "unstable"





you understand there are unlimited trans people that do not make the change just like gays that remain in the closet, just because they deny themselves who they are doesn't mean they are not what they are.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911844 - 07/07/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A reasonable argument. Or does the trans lifestyle, and mutilating yourself while taking a soldiers dose of hormones make you a tad "unstable"




I think the increased suicide rate is because of societal & professional pressures rather then lack of succes even with such invasive surgeries.
Also requiring to live as members of their target sex for at least one year prior to genital surgery only increases the risk of discrimination & violation, as seen in this thread. The whole slew of legal issues is a driving factor too.

I believe 'peaceful' would be more in tune.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21911848 - 07/07/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I do not think that that is what she is advocating





From her original response and her subsequent ones it sure seemed like it. But i've been known to misread /misunderstand things before.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911852 - 07/07/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Marriage is a legal construct and waiting to have kids in your mid thirties is quite a sound plan



Its a bullshit plan. Its a stupid ass plan that leads to infertility, contraception , abortion, and a million other plagues in society. Marriage is a religious uniting of 1 man and women together. Thats what it started out as, and will always be. If gay folks wanna play make believe to benefit on their taxes thats fine, but you can not unite a man and women together in the same way a male and female can be united in a spiritual sense




Worked for me.  Daughter; Phi Beta Kappa, 100% scholarship for undergrad with no financial statement requested.  Graduated Boston University law school in May and got a job on her very first interview.  Step son getting his PhD at Penn.  Another mid thirties baby.

Marriage is a legal contract.  Nothing more.  Religion has nothing to do with it.  If an atheist marries a Jew is it legitimate?


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911861 - 07/07/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Marriage is a legal construct and waiting to have kids in your mid thirties is quite a sound plan



Its a bullshit plan. Its a stupid ass plan that leads to infertility, contraception , abortion, and a million other plagues in society. Marriage is a religious uniting of 1 man and women together. Thats what it started out as, and will always be. If gay folks wanna play make believe to benefit on their taxes thats fine, but you can not unite a man and women together in the same way a male and female can be united in a spiritual sense





"Spiritual" stick to proper arguments AF, you can't dictate what someone else feels is positive and building in someone else's life. Just because it's not 'right' in your book doesn't make it reality.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #21911877 - 07/07/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's worth noting that trans people exist in pretty much all societies. The west is actually fairly exceptional for denying their existence and actively pathologizing them and terrorizing and killing them for thousands of years without a break until the 60's or so.

Then some radical feminists decided they didn't like us and used their political strength at the time to set us back another 40 years in the 70's. This is some touch-and-go shit.





Well, to be fair, a man styling himself as a woman and demanding to be treated like one is like the ultimate definition of patriarchy.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: 404]
    #21911878 - 07/07/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I do not think that that is what she is advocating





From her original response and her subsequent ones it sure seemed like it. But i've been known to misread /misunderstand things before.



I only advocate for puberty blockers and therapy before 18. The effects of puberty blockers are reversed by mere discontinuation. Those of testosterone or estrogen, not so much so.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21911882 - 07/07/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Marriage is a legal construct and waiting to have kids in your mid thirties is quite a sound plan



Its a bullshit plan. Its a stupid ass plan that leads to infertility, contraception , abortion, and a million other plagues in society. Marriage is a religious uniting of 1 man and women together. Thats what it started out as, and will always be. If gay folks wanna play make believe to benefit on their taxes thats fine, but you can not unite a man and women together in the same way a male and female can be united in a spiritual sense




Worked for me.  Daughter; Phi Beta Kappa, 100% scholarship for undergrad with no financial statement requested.  Graduated Boston University law school in May and got a job on her very first interview.  Step son getting his PhD at Penn.  Another mid thirties baby.

Marriage is a legal contract.  Nothing more.  Religion has nothing to do with it.  If an atheist marries a Jew is it legitimate?




Not legitimate in the Catholic Churches eyes :smug:

All I have to say is your kids sound boring. Ya ya ya, so you can brag about the kids around the water cooler. But where is the "Wow" factor. Where are the felonies, or the hardships, the poverty, or some other factor about them that sets them apart from the rest of the group. Where is their "character" so to speak.

Successful kids are a dime in a dozen, but it takes a REAL history, surrounded by a loving family, and some rough traits to create a legend.

Your kids will be successful, get a good job, have some more 30+ kids, then die a boring ass death. No one will read their biography. Sorry :shrug:


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