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    #21910111 - 07/07/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This is the first generation of transgender children going through hormone treatments, puberty blocking drugs, sexual reassignment surgery etc, as young as age 12-13.

This is a truly fascinating issue and one of the most fascinating, moving documentaries I have ever seen.

I highly recommend giving this a watch, and sharing your thoughts on the issue of transgender children.

If you were their parents, what would you do? Would you support their choice and allow them to begin sexual transitioning with drugs and surgeries before age 16?



Truly a really mind blowing watch.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Moonshoe] * 29
    #21910158 - 07/07/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They aren't "transgender" by choice. No 3 year old decides they want a sex change. Their parents fucked them up. 3 year olds say stupid shit all the time. That does not mean that you go get your little girl a penis, and call her Shiloh, because she wanted to play cowboys and Indians. These people are stupid, shitty parents.
I have no problem with adults deciding that they want a gender change, but children are not developed enough to make those types of decisions. Just like children are not developed enough to decide they want to tattoo their face up. That's why they have an adult to offer guidance until they can make their own decisions.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #21910163 - 07/07/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely not. That is like allowing your kid to take any drug because they convinced you they need it spiritually.

When they turn 18 fine do what you want but I won't support it. No need to ingest a shit ton of hormones that can likely through your homeostatic body into producing the wrong hormones and causes some unwanted forms of cancer and disease. Why can't you just be trans in your normal body?


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910176 - 07/07/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's disregarding the gender the child chose to incarnate into....:smh:

Or is it? :strokebeard:

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Re: Transgender children [Re: Gorlax] * 2
    #21910181 - 07/07/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No that's just how the cookie crumbles. Some kids wish they were taller but you don't see them getting extendo leg surgery.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910197 - 07/07/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd make sure they know I supported their choice but that they'd have to wait until they are legally allowed tO decide themselves.

A 12-13 might just be confused and change their minds in a few years, if they reach 18 and still want to, they'll have my full support but until then it's just more time to figure out who they are as a person.

Once the law says they can choose then by all means they can pay and choose to do it and I'll have their back. But no child of mine is going to dictate choices to me that will effect them forever. I'll grant them the ability to blame no one but themselves if they end up regretting it.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 4
    #21910233 - 07/07/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wanted to be a dinosaur soo bad when I was 12
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Re: Transgender children [Re: twelvelookslikeu] * 16
    #21910250 - 07/07/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Transgender children [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21910257 - 07/07/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hahaha


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Re: Transgender children [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21910260 - 07/07/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't want to pay for their treatments but if I had the money sure I'd let them get blockers. I wouldn't let them get estrogen until they are eighteen but blockers if the money isn't a problem would be alright.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #21910296 - 07/07/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I read this parenting forum (lol), and just today came across a story about a mother who started transitioning her (now 10 y.o.) bio son at the age of 6.  Seemed pretty hardcore to me.  I don't think I could do that to or for my son.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21910319 - 07/07/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

As a child I wanted to be just as strong as He-Man. I am very grateful my mom didnt have me shot full of steroids but instead told me that He-Man's strength wasnt his body but his character.

But there are authentic transgendered children out there who could benefit from being hormonally changed during puberty to the desired gender. This will have WAY better results than adult treatment.

There needs to be a very good test to discern the real transgenders (the feel-to-be's) from the fantasizers (wannabe's) and the confused (think-to-be's) because this is mutilation beyond female circumcision if the wrong choice is made.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Burke Dennings] * 5
    #21910325 - 07/07/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Transgenger before puberty. ... sounds psychological, as if someone wss suggesting it.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #21910331 - 07/07/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I read this parenting forum (lol), and just today came across a story about a mother who started transitioning her (now 10 y.o.) bio son at the age of 6.  Seemed pretty hardcore to me.  I don't think I could do that to or for my son.





Maybe the next stage is hormonal blockers so they'll be kids as long as you like, maybe forever.

6? Fucked UP. Thats the parents wish, not the child's. At age 6 let them crossdress and play around but not hormones that force puberty.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Asante]
    #21910336 - 07/07/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't really know what to think when a couple I met were telling me about their trans daughter male to female. She is like 5 I think now, they said it was obvious and persistent so they went with it.

I would support it but would also try and make sure it is the right choice somehow...


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Asante]
    #21910338 - 07/07/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Kids...

This is definitely fucked up


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Oeric McKenna] * 4
    #21910363 - 07/07/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Children must be protected, not just from others but also from themselves.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: Shins] * 1
    #21910364 - 07/07/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When I was 11ish, I wanted to be a cholo. I begged my mother to let me get a giant "13" on my neck.

I'm glad she didn't let that happen.


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Re: Transgender children [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #21910369 - 07/07/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh my yes, 13 can be taken the wrong way. MS


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Re: Transgender children [Re: greencrush420] * 2
    #21910370 - 07/07/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They aren't "transgender" by choice. No 3 year old decides they want a sex change. Their parents fucked them up. 3 year olds say stupid shit all the time. That does not mean that you go get your little girl a penis, and call her Shiloh, because she wanted to play cowboys and Indians. These people are stupid, shitty parents.
I have no problem with adults deciding that they want a gender change, but children are not developed enough to make those types of decisions. Just like children are not developed enough to decide they want to tattoo their face up. That's why they have an adult to offer guidance until they can make their own decisions.




This has nothing to do with what they child "wants" to be. Gender identity is not determined by the sex organs. It is located in the brain  and if a brain is sexed differently than the external genitalia, it is best to allow the child to live as the gender they identify with, not the one dictated by their genitalia.


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