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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: 28064212]
    #21910075 - 07/07/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm gonna be honest...

I saw this coming a mile away xD






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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: D.M.T]
    #21910098 - 07/07/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Those tits he has would look nice on a 5 foot 2 chick.



Even a couple of them.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Shiithead]
    #21910136 - 07/07/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would be surprised if he was guilty.


TMZ reported that this started when some CP was found on a flash drive that was used for work with the Jared foundation.

Jared has two kids and part of his goal was teaching younger people healthy eating habits, I just don't see it likely that he would be involved in something like this. But then again... Jerry Sandusky





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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Atreyu]
    #21910150 - 07/07/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They always seem to have foundations for children when they are predators. Hopefully for subway it is just something related to the director guy but I bet he ratted out Jared. lol


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910178 - 07/07/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This brings a whole new meaning to the saying 'Eat Fresh'


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910180 - 07/07/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Where is asante? He got trolled good and proper.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910182 - 07/07/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In all honesty, I'll be surprised if it turns out Jared was doing anything with the CP or even knew he had it to begin with. To me seems more likely that is related to the past case somehow and it's been picked up and sensationalized by the media. The director of the foundation or whatever he was probably told them he had more of it stashed on equipment Jared is now in possession of. I've been watching and waiting for an update on exactly why it is they're searching his house.

Not that I'm some Jared fan who thinks he has to be innocent. I actually got sick of seeing his face every commercial break.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21910205 - 07/07/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's a prosecutable crime to possess images of underage people, and the 18 year old maintained the picture in his phone.
It's a prosecutable crime to create images depicting underage people nude in a sexual way, and that is what the girl in the scenario has done.

So they are both guilty by the plain text of the law whether you agree or not.




Matbe we should discuss the spirit of what would be a good law. In my book, victimizing crime should be dealt with but victimless crime should cease to be. Drug use is a good example. Thats a victimless crime. But suppose you draw a picture of two kids going at it, pencil and paper, are you then a criminal? Some jurisdictions say you are. Where do you draw the line? (lol)


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante]
    #21910451 - 07/07/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
Quote:

abltsandwich said:
It's a prosecutable crime to possess images of underage people, and the 18 year old maintained the picture in his phone.
It's a prosecutable crime to create images depicting underage people nude in a sexual way, and that is what the girl in the scenario has done.

So they are both guilty by the plain text of the law whether you agree or not.




Matbe we should discuss the spirit of what would be a good law. In my book, victimizing crime should be dealt with but victimless crime should cease to be. Drug use is a good example. Thats a victimless crime. But suppose you draw a picture of two kids going at it, pencil and paper, are you then a criminal? Some jurisdictions say you are. Where do you draw the line? (lol)




You draw the line by doing away with those stupid laws. Possessing images is victimless. Your thought process is like saying people got killed over gold and silver so having some means you cause others to be killed. Nonsense.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21910465 - 07/07/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What if those images involve the abuse of actual children in order to make those images, to meet the demand for them?


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante]
    #21910469 - 07/07/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Then punish those who make them.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante] * 2
    #21910483 - 07/07/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Asante, it looks like I owe you an apology.  Apparently there are other posters willing to argue for the possession of child porn.  Well played.

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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21910491 - 07/07/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fuckin tards.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21910514 - 07/07/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LOL, Asante.  What the hell is wrong with you?  I can only think of three people I've encountered on this site that will argue that the production and distribution of child porn is a good thing.  Two of those people are banned, one is deep in the Shroomery Protection Program, afraid to surface (let alone openly debate the alleged positive aspects of CP).

Ffs, mxe has destroyed your brain's logic centers.

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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: 28064212]
    #21910516 - 07/07/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's terrible but funny. I'm not sure subway would be in any trouble, they haven't been using him in commercials lately.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21910532 - 07/07/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Then punish those who make them.





Still the makers wouldnt make it if there wasnt demand, its apparently big business.

Its not the same as Rotten videos. Thats stuff that happens but child porn is deliberately made.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21910553 - 07/07/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ehhh that's not really a solid point given that child predators would just feed off of fake CP and then try to go start kidnapping kids and shit.. Also half the time people making CP aren't making it because they want to help the CP community out by supplying material. They do it to relive the crime and most likely beat their dick to it... sick shit


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante]
    #21910556 - 07/07/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't know this Jared but to kick off a discussion:


Child porn involves the erotic exploitation of children for the purpose of creating media to arouse certain adults. Child porn is only made BECAUSE there is a market for it. Thus, if you gather or spread child porn you are an accomplice to the crimes committed against these children and you should be punished for that.


Anyone wanna debate?



I agree but at the same time doesn't that mean that if you buy drugs that you're an accomplice to the black market drug  trade so they could punish you for helping drug dealers make money? It's kind of the same thing. I don't think that should be set as a precedent because they could do that with a lot of different crimes that aren't as serious as child porn.

I think having it should be should be one punishment and being an accomplice to distributing it should be a separate charge.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Asante]
    #21910565 - 07/07/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Then you should lock up those who watch snuff films too. Lock up those who watch any video or photo that was made illegally. If you want to be consistent. Lock up those with dirty thoughts.

Lock up those who buy or own rhino horns, elephant tusks, walrus, any endangered animal. They are contributing to the slaughter. Lock up those who buy cheap Chinese made goods since they are responsible for sending jobs overseas. Lock up those who use drugs because lots of people are killed in the drug trade. Then go after blood diamonds, counterfeit goods and so on. We can fill the jails to overflowing with non violent crimes.


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Re: Jared from Subway house raided for child porn! [Re: Gorlax]
    #21910571 - 07/07/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its a big step to ban cartoons and similar creations that involve no actual children.

If you make a drawing of a fox screwing a chicken, should you be charged with bestiality porn? Poor furries!

It starts moving in the direction of thought police if you take it that far.


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