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OfflineAlmond Flour
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21911234 - 07/07/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LDS- I am having a hard time understanding how younger generations would have become less racist without mandatory integration of public schools? Without exposure to people of different races there isn't really a way to nullify learned hate at stereotypes that were being passed on from generation to generation.




I didn't say anything about the public sector. I don't think the public sector should ever be allowed to discriminate.

My position was and is, that the private sector should not have laws mandating who they do or do not business with.




They were not discriminating! This is the problem. They were being asked to take part in a homosexual wedding ceremony and instead they stuck to their faith.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911241 - 07/07/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

their faith is a bunch of putrid garbage if they can act so stupid.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911243 - 07/07/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.




Now thats just absurd. There are a lot more people in this world than socialists, unionists,and jews to stand up for me god dammit.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: ChinChiller] * 1
    #21911269 - 07/07/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wanna open a cake shop and refuse every Catholic and make national news and watch Almond Flour flip his shit over someone discriminating against religion.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21911286 - 07/07/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and then on the news take the Bible and boil it a crock pot of shit around a bunch of protesting Christians.


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OfflineAlmond Flour
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21911321 - 07/07/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
and then on the news take the Bible and boil it a crock pot of shit around a bunch of protesting Christians.




Now is that necessary? What are you 5 years old :rolleyes: Grow the fuck up, all of you. At LEAST even the most conservative of Christians dont pull bullshit such as this or make such remarks


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911345 - 07/07/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my religion entail's that i flagellate the Bible with a whip, and smash it with a hammer and then bury it it in dung, and then set the dung on fire, after some intense nipple twisting.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21911365 - 07/07/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
and then on the news take the Bible and boil it a crock pot of shit around a bunch of protesting Christians.




Now is that necessary? What are you 5 years old :rolleyes: Grow the fuck up, all of you. At LEAST even the most conservative of Christians dont pull bullshit such as this or make such remarks



No instead they tell people how everything they do is wrong and they're going to suffer and burn for all of eternity unless they go give the church some money and enter into mass delusion with the rest. And that's the nice ones. Few hundred years ago they'd burn you alive or torture you to death.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (07/07/15 07:29 PM)


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21911378 - 07/07/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gilles de Rais was super nice BTW.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: koods]
    #21912187 - 07/07/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't get your response. I did not state my opinion. I stated fact. Marriage, IS,  a religious act. Why would a homosexual couple want to be married by an institution that does not want to marry them, or recognize their union? I'm not against gay union, but I am against the government forcing churches to marry them. Let them get their legal marriage!  Basically, my problem is with the government poking their nose in the business of the church. Do you want the church poking their nose into the government?
My opinions have nothing to do with my religion, but with fact, so quit attempting to label me as an "ignorant christian", and discredit my opinions. Make a valid point to discredit mine, or shut up. What is my religeon? Do you even know? Do I have one? Quit building straw men.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21912207 - 07/07/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They're never going to get it dude. They want to make it into something it is not.
The pastor does not want to marry them, so why would they want him to be a part of their special day?
The bakers does not want to bake them a cake, so why would they want him to be a part of their special day?
These people are just fucking stupid.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: greencrush420]
    #21912227 - 07/07/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

marriage is a civil union, it's just so happens to be distributed by a religious institution, along with the state.

religious people have stupid irrational belief's that cannot be defended with any sound logic.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21912273 - 07/07/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, a civil union is a civil union. A marriage is a marriage. If they want to go to the fucking courthouse, then let them do so. I give zero fucks.
You keep dodging the point. Why THE FUCK, do these imbeciles want to be married by someone who does not want to marry their asses? And WHY THE FUCK, is the government in the middle of it?


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21912310 - 07/07/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Gays are extremely well organized, well funded, very politically active and know how to mobilize attention to their issues.  For as small a group as they are, they get an amazing amount of political attention.

Personally, I could care less. Get married, don't get married.  Force people to do business with you that don't want to … sue them … be angry your whole life because life's not fair.




The "Distress" they suffered after this event is astounding. Absolute bullshit. It would literally take a liberal, gay judge to accept their terms of "distress" and award that insane amount of money.

Lets get something else straight here folks. Being gay is not the same as being black. Being gay is a lifestyle choice. You hear me? A LIFESTYLE CHOICE



your lifestyle choice is to remain ignorant about most realities in life, congrats on championing your embarrassing understanding of sexuality with such vigor that we can't even pretend you are trolling, unfortunately you are one of the few people that makes me want to use the ignore feature.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: greencrush420]
    #21912397 - 07/07/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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No, a civil union is a civil union. A marriage is a marriage. If they want to go to the fucking courthouse, then let them do so. I give zero fucks.
You keep dodging the point. Why THE FUCK, do these imbeciles want to be married by someone who does not want to marry their asses? And WHY THE FUCK, is the government in the middle of it?




Even if you get married by a religious authority you still have to apply for and pay for a marriage license from the state. Marriage is indeed a civil union which requires permission from the government regardless of your faith.

Atheists get married. Are they less married than two christians who tie the knot?

Believe it or not, some gay couples identify as Christians and would like their wedding ceremony to reflect their faith.

I would like to know why it is so wrong for a priest to marry a gay couple when he probably just finished raping a child after communion?


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #21912441 - 07/07/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know anything about priests, as I am not Catholic. Evidently you are though, based on the certainty with which you speak of them. Enlighten me, how do you know that all priests are rapists and child molesters?


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #21912462 - 07/07/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Marriage is not a civil union. A civil union is a civil union. You can say your vows before god, and be married. You don't have to go get the legal paperwork. You will know, and god will know, and that is all that matters for religious purposes.
I still have not gotten my answer. Why do these fools want to be married by someone who does not want to marry them?
Why is the government poking its fat ass nose into a religious issue?


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: greencrush420]
    #21912567 - 07/07/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it's a civil contract. you can do it just with God alone and there is where all of your conniption gets left behind.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: greencrush420]
    #21912632 - 07/07/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I gave you the answer. There are gay couples who identify as christian and want their marriage ceremony to reflect their faith. No, I am obviously not catholic, but it is no secret that the catholic church has been covering up child sexual abuse by priests for decades.

You didn't answer my questions.

By your logic are two atheists who say some words married if they say they are?

Are two people of the same gender married because they said some words but didn't get a document to state they are married?

The marriage license is what gives a spouse power of attorney in the event of a catostrophic medical dilema if there are no advanced directives on file. In the end, quite literally, that marriage license carries far more weight than saying some words into the air and calling it a day. I have known a lot of couples who were together for years but got married because of the benefits it offers, such as being able to put your spouse on your health insurance policy, because in such an instance as they were building a family, calling themselves married couples simply didn't suffice.

Sure, before we had to worry about silly things like advanced directives, taxes, and health insurance, some vows would have been enough. Now, it is not enough to say some words because the government couldn't give a shit what you feel in your heart if you do not have the paperwork to back it up.


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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: greencrush420]
    #21912693 - 07/07/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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greencrush420 said:

Why is the government poking its fat ass nose into a religious issue?





Taxes
Property ownership
Medical issues
Health insurance benefits
The children
Wills/inheritence/estate issues when someone dies
Various government benefits such as SS or VA benefits
Power of attorney issues that can arise if one had not been previously designated if POA is needed
Fuckin' money


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