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koods
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If you think that blacks were allowed into businesses that they had once been barred from for any reason other than the force of law, you are delusional.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: koods]
#21910394 - 07/07/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you think society doesn't evolve, you are delusional.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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koods
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Yeah, society does evolve and one one the major reasons is through laws that force change
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: koods]
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I'm missing something here. So a cake business refuses to make a "gay cake". So the gay couple press charges? The fuck? Just go somewhere else , its the business owners decision who they want to do business with.
Yeah its fucked up that they refused service to a homosexual couple but maybe they where uncomfortable putting dicks on the cake. I dont know. It just seems a little extreme that because the business refused service to one couple, their business and life are going to suffer.
Wait they got charges against them? What charges and for real wtf?
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Shortknight



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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: DOBAS]
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So whats next? If you refuse to write, "Hey you! You Fucking ASSHOLE" or Blah Blahhh blahh, or something vulgar on a cake. It could be anything, will you be charged because its a freedom of speech?
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akira_akuma
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Shortknight]
#21910713 - 07/07/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no, it's nothing to do with that. it's to do with shibboleth of anti-gay rhetoric, and anti-gay belief's and ideal's, that are preventing people from living freely and civilly.
actually it doesn't even hardly have to with freedom of speech, it has to do with freedom of CHOICE.
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: koods]
#21910732 - 07/07/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Yeah, society does evolve and one one the major reasons is through laws that force change
Force. Always force.,
Change come to on your own is the way to go. Think back, did force work well on you?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Shortknight



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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: akira_akuma]
#21910753 - 07/07/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah but what, when my freedom of choice is that I like extremely offensive words/ activites that are are completely legal and want you to print it on my cake even if it upsets you? Who are you to say no following this precedence?
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: Shortknight]
#21910794 - 07/07/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Offensive people don't currently have "speshul" protections like some groups.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Patchouli_Savage


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Akira- you do not need to use apostrophies for plural words. If it were only once or twice, I wouldn't have said anything but you are doing it repeatedly in every post, and you have made several posts on every page. Christ.
LDS- I am having a hard time understanding how younger generations would have become less racist without mandatory integration of public schools? Without exposure to people of different races there isn't really a way to nullify learned hate at stereotypes that were being passed on from generation to generation.
I don't know why this has become such a debate. Had the cake place said "We are sorry, we are unable to make this cake due to an overflow of orders" they wouldn't have had charges brought against them. Instead they said "We don't serve gays and your child is an abomination." That's discrimination which is illegal.
If they didn't want to put dicks on a cake they could have said "sorry, we do not specialize in these types of cakes but [insert cake company here] usually does more artistic and unique cakes. Here is their number. Congratulations!"
Then they post a sign that says "We do not make cakes with vulgar or obscene images or language. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause."
Instead this company decided to break a contract and to deny a service based on sexual orientation. The end.
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KauaiOrca
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Gays are extremely well organized, well funded, very politically active and know how to mobilize attention to their issues. For as small a group as they are, they get an amazing amount of political attention.
Personally, I could care less. Get married, don't get married. Force people to do business with you that don't want to … sue them … be angry your whole life because life's not fair.
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akira_akuma
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i don't think i have been. i have been referring to people as their denominations, sort of identifying certain words for certain people as independent "Actor's" whom identify under an umbrella term such as "Christian's" or such.
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Almond Flour
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: KauaiOrca]
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KauaiOrca said: Gays are extremely well organized, well funded, very politically active and know how to mobilize attention to their issues. For as small a group as they are, they get an amazing amount of political attention.
Personally, I could care less. Get married, don't get married. Force people to do business with you that don't want to … sue them … be angry your whole life because life's not fair.
The "Distress" they suffered after this event is astounding. Absolute bullshit. It would literally take a liberal, gay judge to accept their terms of "distress" and award that insane amount of money.
Lets get something else straight here folks. Being gay is not the same as being black. Being gay is a lifestyle choice. You hear me? A LIFESTYLE CHOICE
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akira_akuma
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even if it was (which it is only in as much as being straight is a lifestyle choice, and if that) what does that even have to DO WITH ANYTHING YOU LOONY-TUNES.
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: akira_akuma]
#21911118 - 07/07/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: even if it was (which it is only in as much as being straight is a lifestyle choice, and if that) what does that even have to DO WITH ANYTHING YOU LOONY-TUNES.
Fast forward 25 years::::
Are you married bro? Hows your marriage? Do you want to get married?
You know marriage dont you? That thing between man-women, man-man, women-women, man-dog, woman-reptile. That marriage!
See how weird this gets. All im saying is if two men want to get married. Why cant a girl and her dog get married?
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Almond Flour said:
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KauaiOrca said: Gays are extremely well organized, well funded, very politically active and know how to mobilize attention to their issues. For as small a group as they are, they get an amazing amount of political attention.
Personally, I could care less. Get married, don't get married. Force people to do business with you that don't want to … sue them … be angry your whole life because life's not fair.
The "Distress" they suffered after this event is astounding. Absolute bullshit. It would literally take a liberal, gay judge to accept their terms of "distress" and award that insane amount of money.
Lets get something else straight here folks. Being gay is not the same as being black. Being gay is a lifestyle choice. You hear me? A LIFESTYLE CHOICE
Being catholic is a lifestyle choice. Being Gay is not.
Edited by Patchouli_Savage (07/07/15 06:51 PM)
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akira_akuma
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Why cant a girl and her dog get married?
you need to take a philosophy class or something, and understand how stupid you sound. what a ridiculously quandary...where does it end, if it's not in-between man and a women then it's liable to be woman and a dog soon enough! give it rest.
that isn't how thinking fucking works what you aspire to is the typical traditional family unit, the nuclear family, but little you seemingly understand is that that is all an illusion. the propensity for the inherent dumbness in your argument here is just astounding. but i wholeheartedly think you think you are onto something.
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Re: Federal vs. Oregon...GAYS! [Re: akira_akuma]
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Why cant a girl and her dog get married?
you need to take a philosophy class or something, and understand how stupid you sound. what a ridiculously quandary...where does it end, if it's not in-between man and a women then it's liable to be woman and a dog soon enough! give it rest.
that isn't how thinking fucking works what you aspire to is the typical traditional family unit, the nuclear family, but little you seemingly understand is that that is all an illusion. the propensity for the inherent dumbness in your argument here is just astounding. but i wholeheartedly think you think you are onto something.
Fuck moral relativity. You are full of it, and its a bullshit philosophy in and of itself.
I have taken a philosophy class. At one of the most liberal/hippie universities in our country.
All im saying is, the folks over at beastforum.com Claim
-They were born that way -And some lobby politically to legalize human/animal love
Why cant they have marriage too? Love is love right? You bigot!
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akira_akuma
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moral relativism, no...i was talking about you getting your head on straight with these ridiculous arguments.
your dogma is morally relative.
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luvdemshrooms
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Patchouli_Savage said: LDS- I am having a hard time understanding how younger generations would have become less racist without mandatory integration of public schools? Without exposure to people of different races there isn't really a way to nullify learned hate at stereotypes that were being passed on from generation to generation.
I didn't say anything about the public sector. I don't think the public sector should ever be allowed to discriminate.
My position was and is, that the private sector should not have laws mandating who they do or do not business with.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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